CA320 on Roster

[franklinarmory]

Hey Calguns. I haven't posted in a while, but you are not forgotten. We have been working on the following program for over a year, and it seems to have fallen into place right before SHOT Show:

https://oag.ca.gov/firearms/handgun/ca320

We will have more information shortly in an official press release.

[abinsinia]

The name may give it away, but I'm excited to see what you've come up with.

[Mtndewking]

Well, this is interesting. You have my attention sir

[morrcarr67]

Originally Posted by franklinarmory

Hey Calguns. I haven't posted in a while, but you are not forgotten. We have been working on the following program for over a year, and it seems to have fallen into place right before SHOT Show:

https://oag.ca.gov/firearms/handgun/ca320

We will have more information shortly in an official press release.

Out freaking standing. I'm happy to see you making these.

[Palmaris]

So, what is it?

[morrcarr67]

Originally Posted by Palmaris

So, what is it?

They're going to launch it next week at SHOT.

But, my best guess is that it's a Bolt Action Repeating Pistol based on the Sig Sauer P320 Modular Chassis design.

Very similar to their Bolt Action Repeating AR pattern pistols.

[Quiet]

Originally Posted by morrcarr67

They're going to launch it next week at SHOT.

But, my best guess is that it's a Bolt Action Repeating Pistol based on the Sig Sauer P320 Modular Chassis design.

Very similar to their Bolt Action Repeating AR pattern pistols.

The CA DOJ BOF position on modifying SSE2 pistols does not apply to on-Roster manually operated repeating pistols, which means an on-Roster bolt-action repeating pistol can legally be made into a CA legal semi-auto pistol.

[franklinarmory]

No, this is NOT a bolt action. I'm working with marketing now to get this Press Release out ASAP. We should have the info out in 24 hours or less.

[Tikka3x]

[bwiese]

Originally Posted by Quiet

The CA DOJ BOF position on modifying SSE2
pistols does not apply to on-Roster manually operated repeating pistols,
which means an on-Roster bolt-action repeating pistol can legally be
made into a CA legal semi-auto pistol.

Indeed.

AB1964 - which IIRC became active in 2014 - basically said SSE couldn't apply to
'born as semiauto' pistols - making them untransferrable from new dealer stock to
a California resident.

AB1964 changed *nothing else* (incl single action revolver matters).

An originally non-semiauto pistol is not banned from transfer, and you can modify
such into other alternate forms of operation [outside other illegal forms like MG/
SBR/SBS/AW etc.] once you own it. (This also assumes that the relevant serialized
frame was never operated in semiauto mode as part of mfg QA, etc.)

[Quiet]

Originally Posted by franklinarmory

No, this is NOT a bolt action. I'm working with marketing now to get this Press Release out ASAP. We should have the info out in 24 hours or less.

Interesting.

[morrcarr67]

Originally Posted by franklinarmory

No, this is NOT a bolt action. I'm working with marketing now to get this Press Release out ASAP. We should have the info out in 24 hours or less.

WOW this should be interesting, can't wait for more details.

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[saudadeii]

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[BucDan]

I told myself no more purchases for first half of 2023... whyyyy nowww?!

Originally Posted by bwiese

Indeed.

AB1964 - which IIRC became active in 2014 - basically said SSE couldn't apply to
'born as semiauto' pistols - making them untransferrable from new dealer stock to
a California resident.

AB1964 changed *nothing else* (incl single action revolver matters).

An originally non-semiauto pistol is not banned from transfer, and you can modify
such into other alternate forms of operation [outside other illegal forms like MG/
SBR/SBS/AW etc.] once you own it. (This also assumes that the relevant serialized
frame was never operated in semiauto mode as part of mfg QA, etc.)

Haven't seen your posts here in a while. It's nice to see.

[plumbum]

Dang it, and I was just thinking my credit card was getting lonely being all paid off and hiding in my wallet

[Batman]

[Superben104]

If this is FA's version of the Sig 320, you HAVE my attention

[Oldboyjun]

I hope Franklin Armory can also do this with the Sig P365 platform. Personally, I’m far more interested in the P365 than the P320.

[9Cal_OC]

Originally Posted by Oldboyjun

I hope Franklin Armory can also do this with the Sig P365 platform. Personally, I’m far more interested in the P365 than the P320.

Well Old Boy, why not do both? In time

[ar15barrels]

There go the 3 Ed Brown's off the list...

Manufacturer		Model			Caliber	Gun Type	Barrel Length	Expired
Ed Brown Products	SF3-BB-CAL2 (Black)	.45 ACP	Pistol		5"		01/01/2023
Ed Brown Products	KC-SS-CAL2 (Gray)	.45 ACP	Pistol		4.25"		01/01/2023
Ed Brown Products	ET-BB-CAL2 (Black)	.45 ACP	Pistol		5"		01/01/2023

https://www.edbrown.com/californiaseries/

[dummykid]

Originally Posted by ar15barrels

There go the 3 Ed Brown's off the list...

ManufacturerModelCaliberGun TypeBarrel LengthExpired
Ed Brown ProductsSF3-BB-CAL2 (Black).45 ACPPistol5"01/01/2023
Ed Brown ProductsKC-SS-CAL2 (Gray).45 ACPPistol4.25"01/01/2023
Ed Brown ProductsET-BB-CAL2 (Black).45 ACPPistol5"01/01/2023

https://www.edbrown.com/californiaseries/

ED Brown has already decided last year they will quit California


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[Never Convicted]

Any updates on what this actually is ?

[LEAD LAUNCHER]

Originally Posted by ar15barrels

There go the 3 Ed Brown's off the list...

Manufacturer		Model			Caliber	Gun Type	Barrel Length	Expired
Ed Brown Products	SF3-BB-CAL2 (Black)	.45 ACP	Pistol		5"		01/01/2023
Ed Brown Products	KC-SS-CAL2 (Gray)	.45 ACP	Pistol		4.25"		01/01/2023
Ed Brown Products	ET-BB-CAL2 (Black)	.45 ACP	Pistol		5"		01/01/2023

https://www.edbrown.com/californiaseries/

How is it determined which make and model(s) get bumped off the roster first when a new approved model is added?

[waygeekierthanu]

Originally Posted by LEAD LAUNCHER

How is it determined which make and model(s) get bumped off the roster first when a new approved model is added?

This gun won't knock anything off the list. In order to be knocked off the list it has to be semi automatic with a loaded chamber indicator, magazine disconnect, micro stamping. I seriously doubt this would qualify as that so it won't knock anything off the list which is actually a great thing! I already have my order lined up and ready to go for shot show and hope to be the first dealer in California to have these things ready for customers to buy!! Let's goooooo

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[LEAD LAUNCHER]

Originally Posted by waygeekierthanu

This gun won't knock anything off the list. In order to be knocked off the list it has to be semi automatic with a loaded chamber indicator, magazine disconnect, micro stamping. I seriously doubt this would qualify as that so it won't knock anything off the list which is actually a great thing! I already have my order lined up and ready to go for shot show and hope to be the first dealer in California to have these things ready for customers to buy!! Let's goooooo

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That’s what I thought as well initially but didn’t find the correct verbiage in the law when I was looking.

Very interested in this!

Although our household already has two 9mm p320.

I realize the 9MM is going to be more marketable initially but I’m hoping Franklin does a 10mm too.

A 10mm p320 is what I seek.
To replace my POS 20sf which is the suckage.

[Superben104]

Reno May just released a video on this.

I will be getting in line for this for sure!

Well done Franklin Armory.

https://youtu.be/nibjLt7HFQg

[IVC]

Even though the roster is likely on its way out, we should remember who our friends are and were throughout the CA gun ordeal. FA has been around, on our side and "sticking it to the man" since the beginning.

Thank you Franklin Armory.

[Sniper3142]

This interests me for sure!

Put me down for one, maybe two!

[Superben104]

[TalkAboutIT]

Nice

[LEAD LAUNCHER]

Originally Posted by IVC

Even though the roster is likely on its way out, we should remember who our friends are and were throughout the CA gun ordeal. FA has been around, on our side and "sticking it to the man" since the beginning.

Thank you Franklin Armory.

Yes!

I bought 2 CA7 from them.

Haven’t even gotten around to “configurating” the second one yet L O L.

As mentioned we already have a couple P320 in 9 mm but if Franklin does a 10mm I am on board. Hell might even buy another 9 mm.

[Sertisy]

is the 9mm FCU and the 10mm FCU the same?

[naz]

I have 2 p320 I paid off roster premium for and I am super happy more people will have access to these guns, and will be looking into buying one to show support for FA

Way to go guys!

[Rover]

Originally Posted by IVC

Even though the roster is likely on its way out, we should remember who our friends are and were throughout the CA gun ordeal. FA has been around, on our side and "sticking it to the man" since the beginning.

Thank you Franklin Armory.

100%, already have some p320s, and that's more than I'll ever need, but will definitely buy an FAone both because loophole guns are interesting to me, and FA deserves a few of my dollars for their efforts.

Excited to see how they wiggled their way around the roster, guess I should swing by their booth next week.

[enorbit3]

Franklin Armory, Take my money!!!

Havent heard much about the title 1 suit. Any updates on that?

[echopapa]

Wow this is pretty awesome. I wonder how many P320 FCUs they were able to source from Sig. There's gonna be a huge demand for them.

I bet a P365 version will be released next year.

[Palmaris]

So, FA will get un-assembled FCU from Sig, assemble it with their grip module as single shot or whatever is right terminology is and it is all need to satisfy roster. Nice done!

[LEAD LAUNCHER]

Hmm

I wonder if one’s IA(In my case Ventura County Sheriff)Cares if one of the pistols on my CCW that’s Drosed to me as a single shot now functions semiautomatically?

Don’t ask don’t tell lol.

That’s tempting but I would probably ask.
About a caliber change also while I’m doing it.

[ASD1]

Originally Posted by LEAD LAUNCHER

Hmm

I wonder if one’s IA(In my case Ventura County Sheriff)Cares if one of the pistols on my CCW that’s Drosed to me as a single shot now functions semiautomatically?

Don’t ask don’t tell lol.

That’s tempting but I would probably ask.
About a caliber change also while I’m doing it.

You convert it to what ever you want pawn it get it back and it is in the system correctly

[BuckshotBob]

Originally Posted by LEAD LAUNCHER

Hmm

I wonder if one’s IA(In my case Ventura County Sheriff)Cares if one of the pistols on my CCW that’s Drosed to me as a single shot now functions semiautomatically?

Don’t ask don’t tell lol.

That’s tempting but I would probably ask.
About a caliber change also while I’m doing it.

Asking the real questions here lol