Buyers with zero itrader and zero posts? Seems to be alot of them lately

[pc_load_letter]

I don't know if I am just being paranoid, but I have two firearms listed in the marketplace and it seems more than 75% of my inquiries have been from newly created accounts with zero itraders and zero posts.

Has there just been a huge increase in new Calguns membership or are people looking to flip guns and make money?

I just listed an 1894C marlin and I already have two contacts from folks with zero posts and zero itrader.

I don't know if I am being overly paranoid. I had to tell one guy thanks but no thanks after he insisted on shooting my Garand before purchasing. All I could envision was him getting injured in some capacity and I getting sued into oblivion for accusing me of letting him shoot a defective firearm.

Any thoughts?

[M76]

[pc_load_letter]

I would normally think it's spam but there is an element of being a real human.

What would spammers hope to reach by bombing marketplace listings?

[9Cal_OC]

Probably cause you have two FS threads and didn’t combine into one FS thread

Some sellers indicate they would only do business with those that have iTrader ratings. Your call.

For me, we all started at 0 so if you have a weird feeling or the request is odd, then just walk away.

IME, most of the buyers/sellers I’ve dealt with have been good guys, even some with no iTrader.

[therealnickb]

I’ve certainly been contacted by obvious flakes. I tend to ignore them. A zero may be legit, but as 9cal wrote, trust your gut.

[Surf & Turf]

I don't have a problem with those with no history.... we all started somewhere..... as far as test firing.... not a chance...

Personally, I have NEVER ask a seller that nor will I ever.

[EWastigmatism]

What do you mean?
I will ship, after you send Zelle payment.

[bugsy714]

I’ve had a lot of great luck with zero Post zero feedback people. Just have to feel them out many of them don’t live the gun guy lifestyle but it doesn’t mean they don’t have good taste in guns


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[Supersapper]

I've also had good results from folks with low/no itrader ratings. What I do is insist on face to face meetings in a neutral location for non firearm stuff and for guns and ammo, I just meet at a gun range. No one generally makes an issue of seeing a bucket of brass, box of primers or seeing a gun case to go into the range to inspect the firearm.

As far as test firing, I depart from the general thought. You would not buy a car without a test drive, you shouldn't buy a gun without an inspect and test fire. At a minimum you field strip it and look for any unusual stuff. Hopefully you've done your research and know what to look for as you consider the purchase. I don't have to shoot it and I will purchase or provide proper ammunition for it, but I don't want some worn out, defective s*** that a no/low iTrader rating is trying to pawn off. It has to fire successfully in front of me. If a person is not confident enough in the firearm to either fire it in front of me or let me fire it, then as far as I'm concerned, it's a defective firearm or the seller is trying to hide something. I've seen guns that jam very 3 or 4th round, light strike repeatedly, cracked frames that weren't mentioned, modified to unsafe firearms, defective firearms to include revolvers who timing was off far enough that every time you shot it, the forcing cone shave the bullet a little going into the barrel and you're finger got a little bit of shavings. So yeah....we're gonna field strip it and then fire it before I buy it.

I've never really had an issue with honest people, as long as it doesn't cost them anything to do it. My membership at my range allows me a guest, so except for the one thing I bought new, I've always had the opportunity to test fire anything I bought and I would insist that anything bought from me be test fired, either by myself or by the buyer so they can't come back at me later.

Just me, though. Besides...most of us are pretty good gun guys right? How hard is it to get you on a range? For me, unless I'm working, all you have to say is "pew pew" and tell me where.

[SonofWWIIDI]

So, no link to your for sale items?

Why should we do the work.

[Old Marine]

Originally Posted by Supersapper

I've also had good results from folks with low/no itrader ratings. What I do is insist on face to face meetings in a neutral location for non firearm stuff and for guns and ammo, I just meet at a gun range. No one generally makes an issue of seeing a bucket of brass, box of primers or seeing a gun case to go into the range to inspect the firearm.

As far as test firing, I depart from the general thought. You would not buy a car without a test drive, you shouldn't buy a gun without an inspect and test fire. At a minimum you field strip it and look for any unusual stuff. Hopefully you've done your research and know what to look for as you consider the purchase. I don't have to shoot it and I will purchase or provide proper ammunition for it, but I don't want some worn out, defective s*** that a no/low iTrader rating is trying to pawn off. It has to fire successfully in front of me. If a person is not confident enough in the firearm to either fire it in front of me or let me fire it, then as far as I'm concerned, it's a defective firearm or the seller is trying to hide something. I've seen guns that jam very 3 or 4th round, light strike repeatedly, cracked frames that weren't mentioned, modified to unsafe firearms, defective firearms to include revolvers who timing was off far enough that every time you shot it, the forcing cone shave the bullet a little going into the barrel and you're finger got a little bit of shavings. So yeah....we're gonna field strip it and then fire it before I buy it.

I've never really had an issue with honest people, as long as it doesn't cost them anything to do it. My membership at my range allows me a guest, so except for the one thing I bought new, I've always had the opportunity to test fire anything I bought and I would insist that anything bought from me be test fired, either by myself or by the buyer so they can't come back at me later.

Just me, though. Besides...most of us are pretty good gun guys right? How hard is it to get you on a range? For me, unless I'm working, all you have to say is "pew pew" and tell me where.

I totally agree. I have test fired and allowed weapons to be test fired by buyers..As for zero ratings and posts. Six years ago, that was me. And now, I think I only have 1 current rating, mostly because O would need a new home - she will kick me out- and I don't want to pay these prices......

Feel free to call me El Cheapooo

[HKAllTheThings]

Users with 0 iTrader are particularly sus

[pc_load_letter]

Lots of good info and thoughts on the subject.

I guess I am just paranoid with today's litigious society to allow anyone I don't know shoot a firearm. That's just me. A buddy I am taking to the range, no problem.

Thank you everyone for posting. Yeah, I guess zero posts\zero itrader is not a real deal breaker. I guess there are lots of places to get info from a new firearm owners may not even know about calguns or spend that much time here.

[Supersapper]

Originally Posted by pc_load_letter

Lots of good info and thoughts on the subject.

I guess I am just paranoid with today's litigious society to allow anyone I don't know shoot a firearm. That's just me. A buddy I am taking to the range, no problem.

Thank you everyone for posting. Yeah, I guess zero posts\zero itrader is not a real deal breaker. I guess there are lots of places to get info from a new firearm owners may not even know about calguns or spend that much time here.

PC,

That was my point...you don't necessarily have to let them shoot it. You both go and you shoot it for him to demonstrate that it works. Load slowly, operate the action and let it go boom. Couple of quick shots, a couple of singles, and that should be sufficient to demonstrate it.

Really the biggest fear is the ammo. Is the guy bringing his own reloaded stuff or factory new?

[waawaaweenie]

maybe you have been living under a rock but times are tough, maybe it is new members who have never had to sell a gun before or maybe are just new into buying a gun because again, times are tough and the police will not protect you and they want to protect their families.

or they are just nigerian scammers

[Enzo rules]

I have zero Itrades. It’s because 3 different sellers, all with Itrade numbers, flaked after deals were made. In the long run no big deal because their flaking did not cost me money just a bit of time.

[bugsy714]

It is definitely a valid point that you don’t want to hand some unknown person a firearm as you never know what they will do with it

I had in that they have no track record and I’d be unwilling to agree to that.


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[marcusrn]

Worry only about the guy having no money. Take a little video of you shooting eight rds and quickly reloading sans Garand thumb. Important that you grin like a racoon with two tails. You will fosure sell rifle by end of week!

[M76]

Originally Posted by HKAllTheThings

Users with 0 iTrader are particularly sus

[Mr. Patis]

Every single one here used to have zero post and zero itrader

[SilveradoColt21]

Originally Posted by therealnickb

I’ve certainly been contacted by obvious flakes. I tend to ignore them. A zero may be legit, but as 9cal wrote, trust your gut.

All of us were zeros at some point so I think that's a bit misleading for some.

[Oceanbob]

The funny thing is zero posts and zero iTrader who post
1. Is this still available?
2, Interested

But never PM you or make any kind of offer.

But I’ve sold a couple of expensive guns (HK Mark 23 and a tricked out 1301) too people who joined CalGuns 15 minutes before. Edit. Also an mint SP-89 to a man in Florida. 5 grand plus shipping.

So everyone gets a shot. But no test firing.

[pc_load_letter]

Originally Posted by Enzo rules

I have zero Itrades. It’s because 3 different sellers, all with Itrade numbers, flaked after deals were made. In the long run no big deal because their flaking did not cost me money just a bit of time.

It's the folks with zero itrader and zero posts. A few of them, their accounts were created in October.

I would totally sell to you. You have good posts and I have no qualms with zero itrader. Just need to see that active participation I guess.

[pc_load_letter]

Originally Posted by Oceanbob

The funny thing is zero posts and zero iTrader who post
1. Is this still available?
2, Interested

But never PM you or make any kind of offer.

But I’ve sold a couple of expensive guns (HK Mark 23 and a tricked out 1301) too people who joined CalGuns 15 minutes before. Edit. Also an mint SP-89 to a man in Florida. 5 grand plus shipping.

So everyone gets a shot. But no test firing.

Hi Oceanbob, I purchased one of your guns many many years ago. Went up to Orange County for it.

[SilveradoColt21]

Originally Posted by pc_load_letter

It's the folks with zero itrader and zero posts. A few of them, their accounts were created in October.

I would totally sell to you. You have good posts and I have no qualms with zero itrader. Just need to see that active participation I guess.

Active participation is a big one for sure as someone who is a scammer, tire kicker or simply someone you cannot trust will not put in the time and the effort into the forum.

[Oceanbob]

Originally Posted by pc_load_letter

Hi Oceanbob, I purchased one of your guns many many years ago. Went up to Orange County for it.

Yeah. I just saw that…..11 years ago….dang. That was a great weapon, hope you still have it…👍
Bob