CA320 on Roster

[franklinarmory]

Hey Calguns. I haven't posted in a while, but you are not forgotten. We have been working on the following program for over a year, and it seems to have fallen into place right before SHOT Show:

https://oag.ca.gov/firearms/handgun/ca320

We will have more information shortly in an official press release.

[abinsinia]

The name may give it away, but I'm excited to see what you've come up with.

[Mtndewking]

Well, this is interesting. You have my attention sir

[morrcarr67]

Originally Posted by franklinarmory

Hey Calguns. I haven't posted in a while, but you are not forgotten. We have been working on the following program for over a year, and it seems to have fallen into place right before SHOT Show:

https://oag.ca.gov/firearms/handgun/ca320

We will have more information shortly in an official press release.

Out freaking standing. I'm happy to see you making these.

[Palmaris]

So, what is it?

[morrcarr67]

Originally Posted by Palmaris

So, what is it?

They're going to launch it next week at SHOT.

But, my best guess is that it's a Bolt Action Repeating Pistol based on the Sig Sauer P320 Modular Chassis design.

Very similar to their Bolt Action Repeating AR pattern pistols.

[Quiet]

Originally Posted by morrcarr67

They're going to launch it next week at SHOT.

But, my best guess is that it's a Bolt Action Repeating Pistol based on the Sig Sauer P320 Modular Chassis design.

Very similar to their Bolt Action Repeating AR pattern pistols.

The CA DOJ BOF position on modifying SSE2 pistols does not apply to on-Roster manually operated repeating pistols, which means an on-Roster bolt-action repeating pistol can legally be made into a CA legal semi-auto pistol.

[franklinarmory]

No, this is NOT a bolt action. I'm working with marketing now to get this Press Release out ASAP. We should have the info out in 24 hours or less.

[Quiet]

Originally Posted by franklinarmory

No, this is NOT a bolt action. I'm working with marketing now to get this Press Release out ASAP. We should have the info out in 24 hours or less.

Interesting.

[morrcarr67]

Originally Posted by franklinarmory

No, this is NOT a bolt action. I'm working with marketing now to get this Press Release out ASAP. We should have the info out in 24 hours or less.

WOW this should be interesting, can't wait for more details.

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[bwiese]

Originally Posted by Quiet

The CA DOJ BOF position on modifying SSE2
pistols does not apply to on-Roster manually operated repeating pistols,
which means an on-Roster bolt-action repeating pistol can legally be
made into a CA legal semi-auto pistol.

Indeed.

AB1964 - which IIRC became active in 2014 - basically said SSE couldn't apply to
'born as semiauto' pistols - making them untransferrable from new dealer stock to
a California resident.

AB1964 changed *nothing else* (incl single action revolver matters).

An originally non-semiauto pistol is not banned from transfer, and you can modify
such into other alternate forms of operation [outside other illegal forms like MG/
SBR/SBS/AW etc.] once you own it. (This also assumes that the relevant serialized
frame was never operated in semiauto mode as part of mfg QA, etc.)

[tomrkba]

Originally Posted by morrcarr67

They're going to launch it next week at SHOT.

But, my best guess is that it's a Bolt Action Repeating Pistol based on the Sig Sauer P320 Modular Chassis design.

Very similar to their Bolt Action Repeating AR pattern pistols.

BOLT ACTION??? Who wants bolt action???

I want it to be lever action!

[Tikka3x]

[Darto]

Originally Posted by Tikka3x

Next in line

[saudadeii]

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[BucDan]

I told myself no more purchases for first half of 2023... whyyyy nowww?!

Originally Posted by bwiese

Indeed.

AB1964 - which IIRC became active in 2014 - basically said SSE couldn't apply to
'born as semiauto' pistols - making them untransferrable from new dealer stock to
a California resident.

AB1964 changed *nothing else* (incl single action revolver matters).

An originally non-semiauto pistol is not banned from transfer, and you can modify
such into other alternate forms of operation [outside other illegal forms like MG/
SBR/SBS/AW etc.] once you own it. (This also assumes that the relevant serialized
frame was never operated in semiauto mode as part of mfg QA, etc.)

Haven't seen your posts here in a while. It's nice to see.

[plumbum]

Dang it, and I was just thinking my credit card was getting lonely being all paid off and hiding in my wallet

[Batman]

[Superben104]

If this is FA's version of the Sig 320, you HAVE my attention

[Oldboyjun]

I hope Franklin Armory can also do this with the Sig P365 platform. Personally, I’m far more interested in the P365 than the P320.

[9Cal_OC]

Originally Posted by Oldboyjun

I hope Franklin Armory can also do this with the Sig P365 platform. Personally, I’m far more interested in the P365 than the P320.

Well Old Boy, why not do both? In time

[ar15barrels]

There go the 3 Ed Brown's off the list...

Manufacturer		Model			Caliber	Gun Type	Barrel Length	Expired
Ed Brown Products	SF3-BB-CAL2 (Black)	.45 ACP	Pistol		5"		01/01/2023
Ed Brown Products	KC-SS-CAL2 (Gray)	.45 ACP	Pistol		4.25"		01/01/2023
Ed Brown Products	ET-BB-CAL2 (Black)	.45 ACP	Pistol		5"		01/01/2023

https://www.edbrown.com/californiaseries/

[dummykid]

Originally Posted by ar15barrels

There go the 3 Ed Brown's off the list...

ManufacturerModelCaliberGun TypeBarrel LengthExpired
Ed Brown ProductsSF3-BB-CAL2 (Black).45 ACPPistol5"01/01/2023
Ed Brown ProductsKC-SS-CAL2 (Gray).45 ACPPistol4.25"01/01/2023
Ed Brown ProductsET-BB-CAL2 (Black).45 ACPPistol5"01/01/2023

https://www.edbrown.com/californiaseries/

ED Brown has already decided last year they will quit California


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[LEAD LAUNCHER]

Originally Posted by ar15barrels

There go the 3 Ed Brown's off the list...

Manufacturer		Model			Caliber	Gun Type	Barrel Length	Expired
Ed Brown Products	SF3-BB-CAL2 (Black)	.45 ACP	Pistol		5"		01/01/2023
Ed Brown Products	KC-SS-CAL2 (Gray)	.45 ACP	Pistol		4.25"		01/01/2023
Ed Brown Products	ET-BB-CAL2 (Black)	.45 ACP	Pistol		5"		01/01/2023

https://www.edbrown.com/californiaseries/

How is it determined which make and model(s) get bumped off the roster first when a new approved model is added?

[waygeekierthanu]

Originally Posted by LEAD LAUNCHER

How is it determined which make and model(s) get bumped off the roster first when a new approved model is added?

This gun won't knock anything off the list. In order to be knocked off the list it has to be semi automatic with a loaded chamber indicator, magazine disconnect, micro stamping. I seriously doubt this would qualify as that so it won't knock anything off the list which is actually a great thing! I already have my order lined up and ready to go for shot show and hope to be the first dealer in California to have these things ready for customers to buy!! Let's goooooo

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[LEAD LAUNCHER]

Originally Posted by waygeekierthanu

This gun won't knock anything off the list. In order to be knocked off the list it has to be semi automatic with a loaded chamber indicator, magazine disconnect, micro stamping. I seriously doubt this would qualify as that so it won't knock anything off the list which is actually a great thing! I already have my order lined up and ready to go for shot show and hope to be the first dealer in California to have these things ready for customers to buy!! Let's goooooo

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That’s what I thought as well initially but didn’t find the correct verbiage in the law when I was looking.

Very interested in this!

Although our household already has two 9mm p320.

I realize the 9MM is going to be more marketable initially but I’m hoping Franklin does a 10mm too.

A 10mm p320 is what I seek.
To replace my POS 20sf which is the suckage.

[Never Convicted]

Any updates on what this actually is ?

[Superben104]

Reno May just released a video on this.

I will be getting in line for this for sure!

Well done Franklin Armory.

https://youtu.be/nibjLt7HFQg

[LEAD LAUNCHER]

Originally Posted by Superben104

Reno May just released a video on this.

I will be getting in line for this for sure!

Well done Franklin Armory.

https://youtu.be/nibjLt7HFQg

Question.

Top pic shows straight trigger-2nd pic down shows curved.

Which trigger does it come with?

I'm hoping straight!

[morrcarr67]

Originally Posted by LEAD LAUNCHER

Question.



Top pic shows straight trigger-2nd pic down shows curved.



Which trigger does it come with?



I'm hoping straight!

Did you watch the video?

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[LEAD LAUNCHER]

Originally Posted by morrcarr67

Did you watch the video?

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I did but in my excitement I guess I missed that part.

Production models will have straight trigger.

Thanks!

[morrcarr67]

Originally Posted by LEAD LAUNCHER

I did but in my excitement I guess I missed that part.



Production models will have straight trigger.



Thanks!

Reno was so excited and talking kinda fast. I had to rewind a couple of times.

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[BajaJames83]

Originally Posted by LEAD LAUNCHER

Question.

Top pic shows straight trigger-2nd pic down shows curved.

Which trigger does it come with?

I'm hoping straight!

Doesn't matter it takes 3 minutes to change it out any way and triggers are cheap

[IVC]

Even though the roster is likely on its way out, we should remember who our friends are and were throughout the CA gun ordeal. FA has been around, on our side and "sticking it to the man" since the beginning.

Thank you Franklin Armory.

[LEAD LAUNCHER]

Originally Posted by IVC

Even though the roster is likely on its way out, we should remember who our friends are and were throughout the CA gun ordeal. FA has been around, on our side and "sticking it to the man" since the beginning.

Thank you Franklin Armory.

Yes!

I bought 2 CA7 from them.

Haven’t even gotten around to “configurating” the second one yet L O L.

As mentioned we already have a couple P320 in 9 mm but if Franklin does a 10mm I am on board. Hell might even buy another 9 mm.

[Sertisy]

is the 9mm FCU and the 10mm FCU the same?

[Grendel Guy]

Originally Posted by Sertisy

is the 9mm FCU and the 10mm FCU the same?

I talked with sig on this and was told no. However, talking with another calgunner he said that removing the slide stop lever from the 9mm FCU and replacing it one for the 10 or 45 acp will do the trick. The down side is the 9 is out of commission to get the 10 or 45 going. Vice Versa going back to the 9. I have two 320s so that isn't an issue. Waiting now to get the "top end".

[Karch]

Originally Posted by Grendel Guy

I talked with sig on this and was told no. However, talking with another calgunner he said that removing the slide stop lever from the 9mm FCU and replacing it one for the 10 or 45 acp will do the trick. The down side is the 9 is out of commission to get the 10 or 45 going. Vice Versa going back to the 9. I have two 320s so that isn't an issue. Waiting now to get the "top end".

As I have stated in another thread, I did this modification to my CW FCU.

Functions great in my Xten (bought a complete Xten minus the FCU as it was shipped from another state, preowned).

I have since used the same modified FCU into a p320 compact (9mm) and X5 Legion and didn’t have a single issue (all factory ammo, 115gr and 124gr).


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[ar15barrels]

Originally Posted by Sertisy

is the 9mm FCU and the 10mm FCU the same?

No.

[swell1957]

Originally Posted by Sertisy

is the 9mm FCU and the 10mm FCU the same?

Since we're seeing answers all over the place, we can confirm...

Yes, the "stripped" 9mm/10mm FCUs are IDENTICAL!

As mentioned a few posts back, two parts need to be swapped in a 9mm FCU to use 10mm, takedown safety lever and slide catch. SIG builds the X-TEN with the same length ejector as the 9mm FCUs. 45 FCUs utilize a shortened ejector, but otherwise identical.

(Obviously grip, slide, recoil spring, barrel and mag is also required)

We work with P320s daily, building 9mm, 10 and 45.

-Alex
AB Prototype
Oak Ridge, TN