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state “Constitutional Carry": 2020 wins: 0; 2021 wins: UT, MT, IA, TN & TX!
(link to 2019 ConCarry thread: http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s....php?t=1500052)
ETA: the Coronavirus pandemic knocked off the rails all states’ budgets and legislative plans for the year. We're unlikely to win (or lose) any states IMO. Thus the change from a "thumbs up" to sad face icon for this thread. Hopefully, come January, things will look better. ETA2 May update: looks like OH and TN Con Carry bills are advancing, but no idea if they'll pass. Status as of 2019 Dec 31: Based on how things went in 2019, these are the states that have a chance of passing ConCarry in 2020 IMO (alphabetical order): Alabama: unlikely to pass this session, more likely to pass law to clean up CCW process and offer lifetime CCW: https://www.alreporter.com/2020/02/1...y-legislation/ Florida: HB 273 Georgia bill HB 2 http://www.legis.ga.gov/Legislation/.../20192020/HB/2 Iowa: our side got sandbagged last year Michigan: Nebraska: ConCarry has a chance after Ernie Chambers becomes "lame duck" in Nov or is replaced in 2021 Jan (termed out). Ohio: has a chance but Law enforcement, sheriffs, and prosecutors and then the Dayton massacre killed it last year. Here's some OH gun org links for updates. https://twitter.com/BuckeyeFirearms https://www.facebook.com/BuckeyeFirearmsAssociation https://www.buckeyefirearms.org/ ETA2: link to current status of the OH bill: https://www.buckeyefirearms.org/ohio...islation-guide Oklahoma: the antis are trying to gather 95,000 signatures to put a repeal of Con Carry ("State Question 809") on the Nov ballot. We should know in June of they get enough signatures. https://www.tulsaworld.com/news/seco...d723dac6d.html South Carolina House bill HB 3456 https://www.scstatehouse.gov/billsea...=123&summary=B Similar South Carolina Senate bills are: S 0400 https://www.scstatehouse.gov/billsea...headerfooter=1 S 0139 https://www.scstatehouse.gov/billsea...headerfooter=1 Tennessee: may pass this year Texas: in even years legislation is restricted to budgetary matters; RINOs & Dems killed it in 2019, we can't try again until 2021 January Utah: anti Con Carry Gov. Gary Herbert will not run for re-election in 2020, so there may be a chance in 2021 or later with his successor. https://www.ksl.com/article/42959379...nal-carry-bill From the old thread: Quote:
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Florida
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Ditto!
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Ha! I couldn't figure out why you guys thought I saw so optimistic until I realized the "xx wins!!!" could be interpreted as "20 wins!!!" Sorry, I was using the xx just as placeholders. I've changed them to empty parenthesis.
While I haven't and won't look up where things left off, IMO we've got a solid chance for 2 to 3 more states in 2020. Just like at the county level in CA re. CCWs, we keep making slow, steady gains. ETA: I removed anything re. wins. Will replace after 1st win.
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Thanks for organizing all this info. It's great! Every state that goes constitutional carry strengthens the arguments in court cases.
BTW, I still would say that RI, CT, DE should be considered shall-issue in practice. The only may-issue states that are not shall-issue in practice are HI, CA, MA, NY, NJ, MD.
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Georgia:Kemp going RINO, doesn't mention ConCarry in State of State address
Georgia: our hope is House Speaker David Ralston gets his income tax cut, hamstringing Kemp forcing a focus on Republican social issues by the legislature (and that includes ConCarry), and that forcing Kemp to sign it.
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Indiana
I think I missed this article re. Indiana last year (Nov 25th). It looks like there's not much support for Con Carry there yet.
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Idaho & Montana may "clean up" their ConCarry law
Idaho and Montana have different laws re. Con Carry for residents vs non-residents. They may clean up some of those differences this session.
https://nwgunnews.com/can-idaho-and-...carry-in-2020/
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What killed ConCarry in the Texas legislature in 2019
Texas
Bottom line: corruption 1 anti resigns, 1 steps down from GOP leadership and 1 anti Dem won't run again in 2020. This gives us hope for the future. https://www.gunpowdermagazine.com/th...e-texas-house/
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Iowa
In Iowa, getting a 2nd A-like RKBA amendment to their state constitution is a higher priority this term. They mucked it up a few years ago, so they had to redo it. Hopefully, they'll get it done right and move on to passing ConCarry ASAP.
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Texas -- Mark Williams
Sounds like a good candidate to support in the Texas primary in March.
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Antis need gun massacres to advance their anti agenda.
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Louisiana: HB 72
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ETA: The 2020 Regular Legislative Session will convene at noon on Monday, March 9, 2020. Final Adjournment no later than 6:00 pm on Monday, June 1, 2020. https://www.legis.la.gov/legis/home.aspx
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Idaho bill to clean up their Constitutional Carry law
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And we got GOP here like you got Dems in CA.
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ETA: legislative sessions usually end by May (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tennes...ative_schedule)
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The enhanced not just the carry , or con carry when it passes. Remember we have a castle doctrine that also covers our cars . Lifetime with Reciprocity ( $300 ) •Alabama •Alaska* •Arizona* •Arkansas* •Colorado – Does not honor 18-20-year-old permits or non-resident permits •Delaware •Florida* – Does not honor 18-20-year-old permits or non-resident permits •Georgia* •Idaho •Indiana •Iowa •Kansas •Kentucky* •Louisiana* •Maine •Michigan* •Mississippi* •Missouri •Montana •Nebraska – Does not honor 18-20-year-old permits •Nevada •New Hampshire* •New Mexico* •North Carolina* •North Dakota – Does not honor 18-20-year-old permits •Oklahoma •Ohio* •Pennsylvania* – Does not honor 18-20-year-old permits or non-resident permits •South Carolina* •South Dakota* •Texas* •Utah •Virginia •West Virginia* – Does not honor 18-20-year-old permits or non-resident permits •Wisconsin – Does not honor 18-20-year-old permits •Wyoming* Worth it ?
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Bweise says "I have to say the situation was not at all helped by 22 yr old former Airsoft douches who kept touting here, "But possession is not illegal!" " Fighting on the internet is like being in the special Olympics , everybody wins but your still retarded. Librarian " Calguns is not a 'general discussion board". |
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Thanks for the clean up, Mods.
If anyone has a complaint re. the map used in the OP take it up with whoever makes that map (hint: it is not me). For me, the map is good enough for my purposes: to see where we're making progress beyond Shall Issue CCWs. For those of us in the PRK, especially in restrictive issuance counties, this thread is an encouragement in that it shows the entire nation is not a lost cause. At least for me, this thread puts a smile on my face to hold me over while we wait for SCOTUS to, hopefully, come to our rescue.
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Idaho bill to clean up their Constitutional Carry law
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Now that's what I like about Idaho: goes to House and gets passed by the full House within 2 days! Now on to the Senate! Quote:
ETA: The Legislature meets annually from January until mid-March, although sessions have been known to last into May. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Idaho_...e_of_operation
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Just add him to your Ignore List (under "User CP" on the left of the lower dark blue row above). Life is more pleasant without certain people in your life.
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Not since post #28 on Feb 28th. Read that post. It could be weeks or months before it passes. I usually try to search for news (searching "constitutional carry 2020"), every weekend. Feel free to do it yourself more often if you want.
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Thanks for this thread. It's always heartening to see that the notion of "as goes California, so goes the rest of the country" doesn't always apply. I think we'd all like to see a bit of the opposite in fact. |
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As was stated, no. But this is not of that much importance. The issue is for Idaho to fully recognize the 2A right to keep and bear arms without any regulation by the several states and/or local jurisdictions. While I understand the proponents' goals, I do not see this as important. Idaho allows its residents to carry without a permit. So the proposed change is merely to allow non residents to do the same, without a permit of any kind. But, for non residents, Idaho already recognizes permits from all other states. So if you want to carry in Idaho, all you have to do is get a permit from any other state. While your state may be restrictive, you can still get a permit from several other states that issue to non residents and then carry in Idaho. If you are too lazy to do so, your are probably not sufficiently trained to carry anywhere. So my position is that if you are too lazy to get some training, or complete a minimal application, I do not care that you cannot carry in Idaho.
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See above...it's not going to be "months before it passes".
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Like I said, "It could be weeks or months before it passes." Naturally, I hope for sooner rather than later. But we've been handed our heads in other states when we've been too optimistic in the past.
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Idaho Legislative Session 2020 Info.
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Tennessee
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If any of you have any connections to TN, please pass this info on to them (e.g., email, FB post/message and/or online forum). Shelby Co wants to become to TN what NYC is to NY state -- an anti 2nd A fortress. Quote:
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