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Old 07-30-2021, 9:01 AM
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If you think Californis will get better before it gets much, much worse, you haven't been paying attention for the past 40 or 50 years.

In addition to the stupid freedom restrictions, there's the taxes, and the reality that most voters seem to want this. Even the recall is a double-edged sword, last time it happened, we got taken to the cleaners by an Austrian imbecile who thinks he's a genius because he got rich investing in real estate and acting (badly) in movies. He's the RINO who we should have seen coming from miles away, but we were blinded by his celebrity, or his lies that should have been apparent: he was married to a Kennedy clan member FFS. He's the guy who banned .50BMG rifles.

Life is too short to spend it tilting at windmills. Sometimes you have to accept the reality that your efforts, while righteous and noble, are wasted, and move on so you can live your life. Every day you stay, is another day the taxes extracted from your hard-earned income are used against your interests.
Only California gun owners can make California better, but nobody will do anything about it. So, it will continue to be bad. Gun owners actually have nothing to fear from the state other than the perception of the law.

California gun owners are intimidated by a police force of 2.5 officers per 1,000 citizens (actually consider it's 1/4 of that at any given hour of the day since some percentage is away on vacation and there are three shifts). Should California gun owners decide to take over, there is nearly nothing the state could do. Intimidation and perception are their only tools. BLM and ANTIFA know this and look what they're getting away with.
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Back on topic.

People are mentioning many off roster guns as their favorite carry piece.

What are favorite ON ROSTER guns for carry?
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I like how you roll!
I even carry my 629 3" AIWB in kydex. I tried the 4" but it's just too long. Fortunately, Milt Sparks makes the Versa Max 2 for revolvers.

I made a kydex AIWB holster for a Ruger Alaskan and it worked well!

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I'd buy it.
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Now you need to get rid of those stock Glock sights.

Did you ever compare your 48 with the Sig P365XL? I know 15 is better than 12, but I'm curious if you shot both and what your thoughts were comparing the two.
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People are mentioning many off roster guns as their favorite carry piece.

What are favorite ON ROSTER guns for carry?
Any small frame revolver, S&W shield or Kahr CW9.
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On roster the Ruger LCRx .38

Off roster the Sig P365
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Any modern Gun with the exception of the ultra cheap lines will mechanically work just fine.



Once you decide on your CCW Gun, my suggestion is to
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4- practice what they teach in classes - especially malfunction drills and shooting while moving.
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How many times are you willing to bail out before taking a stand? 2 and counting.
Honestly, what kind of “stand” can he do, other than casting one vote at a time and maybe donating money to pro 2A candidates and also to 2A lobbying groups?

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So where will you go when you run out of free states or is it enough that its good while you can get it and thats about it?
Hopefully by that time, he’s collected most of the firearms he’s wanted. Like me, I’ve been collecting since I got my first gun at 9 as a gift from my dad. Collecting has been a lifetime passion of mine and albeit the process to legally acquire guns becomes increasingly difficult every year through legislation, I don’t let that deter me.

I NEVER sell guns and I’ll keep buying until I one day “go toward the light” to be with The Lord. Then my kids will have a nice collection to pass as well. What else can we all realistically and legally do these days????

If you have any better ideas, I’d love to hear them.
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The perfect carry gun is the S&W Model 29/629 with 4" or 3" barrel and night sights, as you prefer.

It is better than the S&W 500 because it doesn't blow up randomly, is far lighter, holds six rounds instead of five, and the smaller frame is concealable. 44 Magnum at 1250 FPS with a 240 grain jacketed hollow point bullet works great for any four and two legged critter you'll find in California. 500 S&W is just over the top

Why anyone would choose a micro pistol that shoots a weak 35 caliber bullet is beyond me.
^^^ Haha, this!

But I’ll digress…. I’ll take my 1st Gen Colt Anaconda with a Tussey action job and it’s 6” vent ribbed barrel, in a Diamond D Alaskan made fine leather chest holster over either one of my precious Model 29’s.
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Honestly, what kind of “stand” can he do, other than casting one vote at a time and maybe donating money to pro 2A candidates and also to 2A lobbying groups?


Hopefully by that time, he’s collected most of the firearms he’s wanted. Like me, I’ve been collecting since I got my first gun at 9 as a gift from my dad. Collecting has been a lifetime passion of mine and albeit the process to legally acquire guns becomes increasingly difficult every year through legislation, I don’t let that deter me.

I NEVER sell guns and I’ll keep buying until I one day “go toward the light” to be with The Lord. Then my kids will have a nice collection to pass as well. What else can we all realistically and legally do these days????

If you have any better ideas, I’d love to hear them.

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^^^ Haha, this!

But I’ll digress…. I’ll take my 1st Gen Colt Anaconda with a Tussey action job and it’s 6” vent ribbed barrel, over either one of my precious Model 29’s.
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Honestly, what kind of “stand” can he do, other than casting one vote at a time and maybe donating money to pro 2A candidates and also to 2A lobbying groups?


Hopefully by that time, he’s collected most of the firearms he’s wanted. Like me, I’ve been collecting since I got my first gun at 9 as a gift from my dad. Collecting has been a lifetime passion of mine and albeit the process to legally acquire guns becomes increasingly difficult every year through legislation, I don’t let that deter me.

I NEVER sell guns and I’ll keep buying until I one day “go toward the light” to be with The Lord. Then my kids will have a nice collection to pass as well. What else can we all realistically and legally do these days????

If you have any better ideas, I’d love to hear them.
California and now Nevada. They became the way they are one vote at a time.

No one has to be a warrior of any kind but every vote that leaves is one replaced by something worse.

The point was obvious, he left California for greener pastures - to Nevada and now he's packing up again. When has that ever worked for the better except in some short term?

So I ask, if everyone who bailed didn't and instead stayed and voted California wouldn't be the way it is. Complacency turned California into what it is and guess who was around when that happened? The very people bailing out only to discover the place they went turned into the place they left. Why? Because they bailed there too.

It doesn't take standing on a street corner with a sign and megaphone, it doesn't take protests and big man on campus efforts, it takes votes.

Nothing was ever won by running away and say it 10 different ways, thats what it is. When California finally makes the turn 100% it won't be because of the people who bailed it will be because of the people who stayed and voted.

If all one sees is their own short term gains then isn't that how things got the way they are?
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Funny I moved to TX and now that I can carry anything I want, I went back to a G19 (from a G48) for 99% of the time.

My last 1% is handled by a p365XL
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I have a G48 and I love it, if you love carrying a G19 it is a perfect addition to have. Waiting on my G45 to come back from milling so that I have my winter carry covered too.
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How many times are you willing to bail out before taking a stand? 2 and counting.

If everyone behaved in the same way it will eventually comes down to a handful of states if that.

At the height of it's good economic stature, the people of some South American countries weren't leaving their countries in drives but they are now. Had they all stayed and pushed until it gives for a better place they wouldn't now be climbing over our borders.

Change doesn't happen and isn't supported by those who run away, it happens from those who stay and are willing to see it though. The only reason other states which were considered red and are now turning blue is because of the very reasons you cited, the people simply packed up and left thinking they'll go to a free state.

So where will you go when you run out of free states or is it enough that its good while you can get it and thats about it?

Well, aren't we just a self righteous little fellow. I have been hearing this kind of stupid $h*t for a long time. I am a pragmatic man and here is how I see it................

I stayed and fought for years and years. I have given thousands of dollars of my hard earned money to conservative candidates and causes both inside and outside of Commiefornia. I have watched my vote amount to nothing for probably longer than you have been alive.

I finally got tired of being a voice in the wilderness of Commiefornia politics and took my money and vote where I thought it would do some good. I have been happy here but for the last three years we have had a liberal governor and legislature that are hell bent to turn Nevada into a clone of Commiefornia. Nevada is faced with a situation where so many Commiefornia liberals have moved here to Washoe County that the rest of the state can no longer counter the dumbocraps that infest Clark County (Las Vegas) and the new dumbocrap majority in Reno. I could stay here and try to "fight", but I am growing rather old and want to enjoy what time I have left on earth and after my experience in Commiefornia, I know that there is little chance of reversing the retard liberals anytime soon.

So tell me Skippy, how long are you going to stay there in that cesspool and continue to give your tax money to a government that could care less what you think? By staying and "fighting", yet still paying taxes, you continue to give tacit support to a government that constantly finds new ways to tax you to death all the while giving your tax money to those that contribute NOTHING to the quality of life except to diminish it by their very presence. How long are you going to "fight" for what has become apparent for many years is a lost cause just so you can feel all good about yourself because you are unwilling to face the truth about what the PRC has become.

You bet I left that $h*thole and I try my best to never go back there so I can make sure that the libtards that are running the state into the ground don't get a penny of my money for any reason. I believe that the best way I can resist the leftists is to make sure that I never willingly give them a dime of my money because the only way you can hurt them is to not give them more money to buy the votes of low information and greedy voters.

So, you stand there and thump your chest and feel all good about yourself because you are either unwilling, or unable to face the fact that for all your posturing, you will have zero effect on the direction that the dumbocraps have been taking Commiefornia. Me? I am moving to my little piece of heaven on the Tennessee River and spend the few years I have left living in a state that votes conservative and where gasoline is a $1.50 a gallon less than in your little socialist paradise.

Good luck though with your "fight" I will watch from flyover country and see how you do.
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Oh I def liked the G48 but toomey reliability issues with the S15s for me. Plus shot timer doesn't lie for me. Accuracy and speed are better for me on a G19. Coupled with my S15 reliability issues, it was an easy choice to go back to the G19.

I do love the way a G48 carries.

For anyone carrying appendix, a Phlster Enigma is amazing. Carry a G19 in one from 6AM to 1Am each day (since the Enigma was released last.December). Love it.
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First few runs of the S15 mags had questionable reliability from a few who tested them. I think I would still stick with OEM for carry even if the S15s were readily available.
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Only California gun owners can make California better, but nobody will do anything about it. So, it will continue to be bad. Gun owners actually have nothing to fear from the state other than the perception of the law.

California gun owners are intimidated by a police force of 2.5 officers per 1,000 citizens (actually consider it's 1/4 of that at any given hour of the day since some percentage is away on vacation and there are three shifts). Should California gun owners decide to take over, there is nearly nothing the state could do. Intimidation and perception are their only tools. BLM and ANTIFA know this and look what they're getting away with.
Cool story bro.

Except you miss the point that most people aren't uncomfortable enough to take up arms, and if they are, they're more likely to move to a free(er) state.

Revolutions are hard to start, and harder to keep going after the first shots are fired.

BLM & antifa get away with it because those in power want them to, and let them.

Also you're forgetting about the National Guard. If you don't think they're taking the side of the powers that be, look at how they've behaved in Washington DC during the little riot that happened there. Same with cops. When was the last time you saw any "authority" figures take the side of the righteous conservatives getting assaulted in the past five or six years? Yeah, you didn't. Cause they know where their bread is buttered, and aren't going to upset a power structure that benefits them. Just look at the fabricated "testimony" going on right now over the little riot in DC in January if you doubt what I'm saying.

There's nothing in California worth losing a night's sleep over, let alone my life. As I stated earlier, life's too short to be tilting at windmills. Easier to move to friendly environs and actually enjoy life. If you can take a state pension, deferred compensation/IRA/401(k) with you, and let the taxes be collected by another state and not California, even better. Your vote means little, if watching the state slide progressively toward socialism over the last 50 years hasn't demonstrated that to you, you need to pay better attention to what's going on around you. But your money, that they need. Want to hurt them (the state), take your tax dollars somewhere else. Especially if you take tax deferred income/accounts, where you deferred the taxes on income earned in California, and can deprive them permanently of those tax dollars.
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California and now Nevada. They became the way they are one vote at a time.

No one has to be a warrior of any kind but every vote that leaves is one replaced by something worse.

The point was obvious, he left California for greener pastures - to Nevada and now he's packing up again. When has that ever worked for the better except in some short term?

So I ask, if everyone who bailed didn't and instead stayed and voted California wouldn't be the way it is. Complacency turned California into what it is and guess who was around when that happened? The very people bailing out only to discover the place they went turned into the place they left. Why? Because they bailed there too.

It doesn't take standing on a street corner with a sign and megaphone, it doesn't take protests and big man on campus efforts, it takes votes.

Nothing was ever won by running away and say it 10 different ways, thats what it is. When California finally makes the turn 100% it won't be because of the people who bailed it will be because of the people who stayed and voted.

If all one sees is their own short term gains then isn't that how things got the way they are?
When a ship is sinking, and there's no reasonable hope of keeping it afloat, you abandon it. Yes, that can be seen as me being concerned with my "own short term gains", but I'd argue it's more me being concerned with my own long term gains as well.

I pay less taxes, I have access to any guns I want, I can buy suppressors, short barrel rifles, fully automatic weapons, and any other legal toys I desire, as long as I can afford them. I can go to the store and buy ammo if I want to, without showing ID and getting a background check. If my neighbor wants to sell me a gun, he can, without getting the government involved. All of this, and the crime rate is much lower, cost of living is lower, quality of life is higher, and there are few bums and degenerate junkies in sight. No bum camps downtown, no human **** in the streets, no being bothered by beggars.

You confuse "running away" with escaping.

James N. Rowe was a Green Beret POW in Vietnam who escaped after five years captivity. (https://special-ops.org/green-beret-pow-james-n-rowe/).

He escaped a POW camp, should he have stuck around to try to make it better?

An extreme example, but the chances of conditions in that POW camp improving for Mr. Rowe were about as good as the chances of conditions in California improving for conservatives/libertarians.

BTW, Rowe wrote an outstanding book, recommended reading for anyone who likes history.

https://www.mentormilitary.com/five-...yrsfreedom.htm

I wish you luck changing the course of California, but I'm done wasting my efforts on that folly. You and Sancho Panza get on Rocinante and Dapple, and continue your quest for the fair Dulcinea del Toboso. Just watch out for those windmills.
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First few runs of the S15 mags had questionable reliability from a few who tested them. I think I would still stick with OEM for carry even if the S15s were readily available.
I have two Gen 1 S15s and four Gen 2 versions, use them in IDPA matches, and when practicing. They've worked perfectly. No issues at all (other than the price).

They've dealt with the sharp edge issues some reported with early mags, and they feed as well as the stock magazines.

And they're more available lately, looks like production finally caught up with demand.

If you haven't tried them, you might want to give the a shot. Make sure you also get the steel mag catch, metal mags will mess up a plastic mag catch.

If you don't like them, they're pretty easy to sell on Gunbroker, and if you wait until they're out of stock again, you might make a buck or two in the process.

I have two G48 10 round magazines that have never been used, along with a plastic mag catch, should try to sell them.
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Funny I moved to TX and now that I can carry anything I want, I went back to a G19 (from a G48) for 99% of the time.

My last 1% is handled by a p365XL
Just curious, why did you go back to the G19? Was there something that you didn't like about the G48?
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When a ship is sinking, and there's no reasonable hope of keeping it afloat, you abandon it. Yes, that can be seen as me being concerned with my "own short term gains", but I'd argue it's more me being concerned with my own long term gains as well.

I pay less taxes, I have access to any guns I want, I can buy suppressors, short barrel rifles, fully automatic weapons, and any other legal toys I desire, as long as I can afford them. I can go to the store and buy ammo if I want to, without showing ID and getting a background check. If my neighbor wants to sell me a gun, he can, without getting the government involved. All of this, and the crime rate is much lower, cost of living is lower, quality of life is higher, and there are few bums and degenerate junkies in sight. No bum camps downtown, no human **** in the streets, no being bothered by beggars.

You confuse "running away" with escaping.

James N. Rowe was a Green Beret POW in Vietnam who escaped after five years captivity. (https://special-ops.org/green-beret-pow-james-n-rowe/).

He escaped a POW camp, should he have stuck around to try to make it better?


An extreme example, but the chances of conditions in that POW camp improving for Mr. Rowe were about as good as the chances of conditions in California improving for conservatives/libertarians.

BTW, Rowe wrote an outstanding book, recommended reading for anyone who likes history.

https://www.mentormilitary.com/five-...yrsfreedom.htm

I wish you luck changing the course of California, but I'm done wasting my efforts on that folly. You and Sancho Panza get on Rocinante and Dapple, and continue your quest for the fair Dulcinea del Toboso. Just watch out for those windmills.
That is so ignorant of facts its amazing. A soldier has a duty to attempt to escape from an enemy if they are held captive, not to abandon their country but to return to the fight. There is no duty to remain a POW and try to improve the conditions but rather escape and return to the war to make things better. Escaping as a POW is not running away, how that computes is beyond comprehension.

No worries, all that people think they are running away from in California eventually follows those who left because in both small ways and large, they take it all with them. It happened in Nevada didn't it and wasn't Nevada the escape? (thats a rhetorical question)

I can appreciate when someone sees their life as being guns instead of guns being part of their life, passions are like that but there is more to life than guns and if its a 24x7x365 thing California can be a dread. There is however far more to it and not all of California is crime ridden, a leftist haven and the land of the oppressed. If I lived in an area where those were the realities I might leave there for some other place in California. It will get better. Its easy to throw in the towel but anyone who has even a basic knowledge of history should know that there is no running away, there s only running.
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The perfect carry gun is a totally different discussion for someone like the OP living in Nevada and the rest of us living behind enemy lines.

Do we really need ANOTHER of these threads from Free Americans?
Nothing preventing you from going into Nevada and getting a CCW license.
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That is so ignorant of facts its amazing. A soldier has a duty to attempt to escape from an enemy if they are held captive, not to abandon their country but to return to the fight. There is no duty to remain a POW and try to improve the conditions but rather escape and return to the war to make things better. Escaping as a POW is not running away, how that computes is beyond comprehension.

No worries, all that people think they are running away from in California eventually follows those who left because in both small ways and large, they take it all with them. It happened in Nevada didn't it and wasn't Nevada the escape? (thats a rhetorical question)

I can appreciate when someone sees their life as being guns instead of guns being part of their life, passions are like that but there is more to life than guns and if its a 24x7x365 thing California can be a dread. There is however far more to it and not all of California is crime ridden, a leftist haven and the land of the oppressed. If I lived in an area where those were the realities I might leave there for some other place in California. It will get better. Its easy to throw in the towel but anyone who has even a basic knowledge of history should know that there is no running away, there s only running.
Sounds like you're hoping other states follow the path of California because, well, you're miserable in California, and you want the rest of us to be miserable too. That's a pretty weird vibe to be giving off.

While my post had some exaggeration, or if you prefer, hyperbole (which I admitted in the post), there was no "ignorance".

I see "guns" and access to them as a symbol of freedom. I will always trust a government that trusts me with the means to defend myself over one that spends an inordinate amount of time restricting lawful citizen's and resident's access to these implements of freedom and self-defense in some misguided effort to control the actions of that segment of society that doesn't care about, isn't affected by, and ignores these laws (criminals). You make a lot of snap judgments about people when they disagree with you that are not accurate, and pretty disrespectful. That's more ignorant than my exaggeration.

I have no "duty" to stay and fix California. I wish the best for those of you who are stuck there, either by job or family. But in the 35 years I lived there, in both Northern and Southern California, I've seen no reason to believe the attitude of the state is going to change for the better anytime soon.

So, like I said, good luck tilting at your windmills, I wish you the best.
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I look at it like this; While it is true that the overlords in the PRC have decided that the peons can't easily get new and different handguns due to their stupid and arbitrary regulations, nevertheless they can be had.

I have no intention of trying to come off as smug because I am able to get guns that aren't readily available to the rank and file Californian. I would rather prefer to be seen as a person that is able to give some real world experiences with guns that might turn up on the secondary market.

As an aside, in a small way I can empathise with the frustration that comes with living in restrictive states because I lived in the PRC for most of my life until I decided that enough was enough and I elected to move away. Now, with all the retarded liberal dumbocraps that have moved to Nevada and our current left wing governor and legislature passing ever more strict gun laws, I have made the decision to once again take my money and possessions and leave. To that end I have purchased land in a red state and will soon be leaving this newly minted socialist paradise.

Only a matter of time till there are no red states left. Look what is happening with our current invaders being dispersed throughout the country with no accountability and nothing to stop them from voting.
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So I ask, if everyone who bailed didn't and instead stayed and voted California wouldn't be the way it is. Complacency turned California into what it is…
“IF.” If if if…. Well IF grandma had balls, she’d be grandpa.

To borrow a variation of a phrase used by Reagan, the people didn’t bail on California, California bailed on its people.

Keep up the good fight however. Good luck to you on that one.
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That is a name I haven't heard in forever. I still have a Colt combat commander that Terry worked over for me.

I was sorry to hear of his mountain biking accident in 2005 and then his passing last year. I think Neil still works for Turners.

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Only a matter of time till there are no red states left. Look what is happening with our current invaders being dispersed throughout the country with no accountability and nothing to stop them from voting.
There are more Constitutional Carry states out there today than there were a year ago, five years ago, and ten years ago. States may appear to be turning blue, but most aren't actually changing much. Nevada was turning blue since before 2016, back when elections were not so goofy, so it's fair to say what's going on there is the spread of the plague that is California politics. The rest, I'll wait and see how it plays out.

Appearances from the outside can be deceiving, until you actually live in one of the free(er) states, you have no idea what's going on there. You might think you do, and you might be a little bit correct, but you don't have the whole picture.

Using the 2020 election as your barometer gives a false impression. There was so much wrong with that year's elections that is just now starting to come to light.

And in any event, I can honestly say I don't miss the oppression that is California. From masks to guns to taxes to junkie-bums crapping in the streets and leaving their needles laying around, leaving was the best thing I've done in a long time.
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“IF.” If if if…. Well IF grandma had balls, she’d be grandpa.

To borrow a variation of a phrase used by Reagan, the people didn’t bail on California, California bailed on its people.

Keep up the good fight however. Good luck to you on that one.
Agree with everything here^^
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I have two Gen 1 S15s and four Gen 2 versions, use them in IDPA matches, and when practicing. They've worked perfectly. No issues at all (other than the price).

They've dealt with the sharp edge issues some reported with early mags, and they feed as well as the stock magazines.

And they're more available lately, looks like production finally caught up with demand.

If you haven't tried them, you might want to give the a shot. Make sure you also get the steel mag catch, metal mags will mess up a plastic mag catch.

If you don't like them, they're pretty easy to sell on Gunbroker, and if you wait until they're out of stock again, you might make a buck or two in the process.

I have two G48 10 round magazines that have never been used, along with a plastic mag catch, should try to sell them.
No question, I wouldn’t hesitate to get a few S15s to try out for myself, it’s just not a priority at the moment since my only option would be to purchase and store out of state with family.
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No question, I wouldn’t hesitate to get a few S15s to try out for myself, it’s just not a priority at the moment since my only option would be to purchase and store out of state with family.
Yeah, I sometimes forget I'm conversing with California people, not trying to rub it in.
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Cool story bro.

Except you miss the point that most people aren't uncomfortable enough to take up arms, and if they are, they're more likely to move to a free(er) state.

Revolutions are hard to start, and harder to keep going after the first shots are fired.

BLM & antifa get away with it because those in power want them to, and let them.

Also you're forgetting about the National Guard. If you don't think they're taking the side of the powers that be, look at how they've behaved in Washington DC during the little riot that happened there. Same with cops. When was the last time you saw any "authority" figures take the side of the righteous conservatives getting assaulted in the past five or six years? Yeah, you didn't. Cause they know where their bread is buttered, and aren't going to upset a power structure that benefits them. Just look at the fabricated "testimony" going on right now over the little riot in DC in January if you doubt what I'm saying.

There's nothing in California worth losing a night's sleep over, let alone my life. As I stated earlier, life's too short to be tilting at windmills. Easier to move to friendly environs and actually enjoy life. If you can take a state pension, deferred compensation/IRA/401(k) with you, and let the taxes be collected by another state and not California, even better. Your vote means little, if watching the state slide progressively toward socialism over the last 50 years hasn't demonstrated that to you, you need to pay better attention to what's going on around you. But your money, that they need. Want to hurt them (the state), take your tax dollars somewhere else. Especially if you take tax deferred income/accounts, where you deferred the taxes on income earned in California, and can deprive them permanently of those tax dollars.
I agree. People WILL NOT do it. There is too much uncertainty, which has become anathema in current American culture.

Writing checks to the NRA and CRPA will not solve the problem. Average gun owners must get into the streets. That means taking off work and the kids miss soccer practice.

Heck, we can't even get 100,000 gun owners to show up at the same time to protest. The best we did was 20,000 or so in Richmond, VA in January. It is no wonder politicians do not fear us. They should, but we're too cowardly to even DEMAND our rights in a letter. Instead, we beg and plead for them to not change the rules.

Oh well, Americans are not WORTH saving. The vast majority are no longer interested in liberty. They are so unimaginative that they cannot fathom it. I'm just gonna make my money, sell the guns off when the bans come and bail out to South America or something.

(Funny story: NRA RO told me a story today. He said a guy who had just moved in from New York called looking for a job. The NRA requires RO's to carry a handgun on the job. The guy stated that he couldn't buy a gun in Virginia because he didn't have a permit. The RO told him no permit was required. The prospective applicant thought that was "disconcerting". The RO just said "Only to you.")


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I think since the roster is so limited, and the 10 round capacity limit neuters most 9mm carry guns, the following are great choices:

Springfield EMP (slightly tuned: all MIM removed, trigger job, fluff-n-buff)
HK P2000SK
HK USP 45 Compact
Glock 26
Various revolvers

I did an inventory against the roster and found out that about a quarter of my guns are actually on it. I really like the Model 629 and 29, though. If you're limited in capacity, you may as well increase the caliber.


I did hear that some issuing agencies prohibit 44 Magnum, however. Perhaps they'd be fine with 44 Special in the chambers.

I guess for California, the Glock 26, Shield, and HK P2000SK make the most sense.
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G48 seems like a nice CCW. Like others mentioned, not worth premium for a PPT. Could be an item when moving to a free state. My window was Gen 4's with the single shot exemption and ended up with a G26, G17 and G30S. Very surprised at how well the 26 works. I still have pre-ban G17 mags as back up and fine to have in my county. G30S is great. Has a night sight for a Gen 3 and fits perfect in my hand. Can be changed to a G29 with a slide change. I think the G17 gen 4 is smooth and like much better than the Gen 3. Still like my Gen 2 17 the best for full size 9m. Just the choices that were available to me. In a free state, Class 3 all the way! Now just need to get my cabin in incline village and spend 183 days for my principle residence. That will need to wait for a few years.
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I know that is a subjective thing with people tending to prefer one type or brand of gun over another, but after forty years I think I may just have found my perfect carry piece.

Several months back I picked up a Glock 48 because I really liked the overall slim size of the gun. Up until I got it, I was using a G19 as my EDC and while I liked the gun in general, there was a few things that I wasn't totally sold on.

Mostly I thought the overall thickness of the grip was limiting me with some of the clothes I wanted to wear in the summer months and I also thought the weight was a bit too much when carrying for 12+ hours. I had no problems with the length of the grip or barrel and I loved the reliability.

When I first handled the G48, I thought that Glock had managed to develop the exact gun I was looking for as a carry piece except for one thing, capacity. I worked around that issue by carrying an extra magazine as I waited patiently for Shield arms production to catch up with their demand. I considered the G43x, but quite honestly, the length of the slide has little to do with me concealing a gun as I commonly carry at 4 o'clock in a IWB holster and as the slide rides parallel to my leg and slide length is basically immaterial.

A couple of weeks ago I got an email from Shield Arms notifying me that they had mags in stock and I bought their package deal with three mags and a steel mag catch.

Today I have finished my testing and can say with certainty that they work 100% in my pistol. So now I have what I feel is the perfect EDC gun for me. I have a thinner package than the G19 combined with the same capacity. Absolutely none of my other guns that have at least a15 round capacity are as thin and light as the G48.

Overall I very happy with it and so far I have tamed my desire to look for a different carry piece.



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