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I can see why that one post would lead you to believe that I didn't participate. Check the date. I don't recall [after posting this I see there was one) any others but feel free to refresh my memory.
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There’s nothing wrong with being cautious, but sometimes it’s better to have strength in numbers and throw caution to the wind. None of us knew we would be granted protection. Buyers and sellers. And many businesses and people said a big FU to the AG.
Honestly I don’t think they want to do anything now to undermine things further after this fiasco. In fact, I’m sure the AG is more pissed at good old Gavin than he is at us. He used the proposition to run for office, not because he really cared about what was going to happen. |
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No one needs to do groundwork for the DOJ, but those of you posting about how much you had spent, where, and on what ought to receive thank you notes from the gun grabbers.
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The DOJ doesn't need any help as long as bright guys and gals run their mouths off on public message boards. As for giving it ideas, anyone who does their homework would consider this one. The problem is it is too easy to dismiss the strategy unless you consider the political implications of not going after the scary magazines.
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But, But, Stone Dossier. J/K OP, whatever your own have your Doctor check your dosage.
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Are you saying that should the 9th Circuit disagree with the District Court and vacate the Judgment a person cannot be prosecuted for violating PC 32310(a) for purchasing a LCM on April 3, 2019? That calls for a yes or no. [After posting this I see where RickD's earlier post was brought up; the one where he says he doesn't "see the DOJ proceeding in this direction until the case is fully concluded, or at least until an appellate court revises that finding." Last edited by Chewy65; 04-08-2019 at 7:57 PM.. |
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Are you seriously asserting that if 32310 becomes permanent law, that the second it happens, there will be no grace period for people to dispose of these magazines and everyone becomes an instant felon? How does the state prove that the information for the warrant is fresh and that the person still possesses the magazine? Are you seriously trying to argue that the DOJ can go in front of a judge and state "Your honor, we know that this person had a LCM 6 months ago when it was legal to do so. We are now requesting a search warrant to see if they still own it"? You are aware that even if one did still possess a LCM at that time, the charge would be simple possession, an infraction/misdemeanor? Can you explain the legal process of getting a search warrant for an infraction/misdemeanor or a nuisance? Are you seriously saying that you think that in the future that if 9th district rules 32310PC constitutional, that this would mean that anyone purchasing a LCM during the period that Judge Benitez ruled them legal by granting summary judgement would become felons because they followed the judges ruling?
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There was a time that sodomy was a crime in this state, if you committed sodomy last week and 6 months from now it was made illegal again, do you think that it could be investigated as a crime and that the police could get a search warrant looking for evidence?
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They CAN NOT determine that people acting under his order violated the statute, because his order cannot be erased. He is a sitting federal court judge with the power to issue the ruling he issued. The doj will not successfully prosecute anyone for violating the law for actions taken during the week between his initial judgment and his stay. Period. The absolute best they could hope for is a determination that his order was erroneous, and some period of time including a buyback, after which lcms would be illegal. But prosecuting someone for buying a magazine when a federal judge issued an order permitting it? That’s the opposite of breaking the law.
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Yep, because if we let fools like this continue to spread FUD, the next time some vendor may see it and decide not to sell to California because it's too risky or someone will be scared off from doing something perfectly legal.
FUD is not harmless and neither are those who intentionally spread it like Chewy65. They do a disservice to the cause of gun rights in CA.
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It is all they know. That is why guns appeal to them. It offers them the promise of power and independence. But, their own internal drive to be life's b*tch is too great. They will not come for your mags that you just bought. There are plenty of more real things to worry about. |
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I'm sure DOJ and LEOs have better things to do. I seriously doubt they're coming after anyone for only mags. You'd have to be doing something else to get their attention first.
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