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Old 07-31-2019, 7:49 PM
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Well we got off to a early start at 6 AM to beat the heat which was expected to be 99 degrees.
We had Ken Eng and Mark Morales both shooting 510 DTC cartridges while I was shooting a 375/50BMG or Mach V as Klaus named it.
We had Scott Nicholas and Vaughn all shooting 338 Lapuas and my second gun was a 338 Lapua Ackley Improved and Mark shot a second gun that was a 338 Lapua as well.
6 shooters and 8 guns on the line.
Vaughn was the first shooter of the day and this guy was on fire.
His first shot at 2021 yards missed the gong by less than a foot and he hit it the next two shots.
He went hot and hit it 8 out of 10 shots.
The rest of the shooters where getting hits but we were having a hard time spotting our misses that were next to the gong.
When my turn came up I managed to get 4 hits on my first 6 shots and quit shooting to save my barrel.
Our rules only require 4/10 to advance to the next distance which was 2435 yards.
By now the heat was starting to get warmer bringing extra mirage into the equation and making it very hard to spot your shots.
I decided to hold a second match at 2021 yards before moving back to 2435 yards for the shoot off and Vaughn and myself both got 3/10 Ken got 2/10 Mark and Nicholas got 1/10 and Scott who shot 8th didn't connect.
Had we been able to spot our misses the scores would have improved.
Vaughn and myself moved to the 2435 yard gong and seeing impacts was all but impossible even with a Schmidt and Bender pair of big eyes.
Luckily when my turn came up the bullet kicked up some dust and this allowed me to make a correction get a hit and win the match.
At this point everyone was shooting up any spare ammo they had laying around and we called it a day.
A huge Thank You goes to Billygoat Machine for building me a rifle that can make me competitive. I'm not a very good shooter so building me a winning combination takes alot of skill.
It should be noted that BillyGoat Machine barrelled Ken's and Marks guns as well.
After the match was over I drive up the mountain to pull the gongs and the T1000 hit indicator took its first hit.
Also my new upright had a couple bullet impacts.
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Old 07-31-2019, 8:59 PM
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Amazing! Just can't imagine hitting anything at that distance. Kudos to all who participated.
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Wnick308 from Calguns gave it a try and when that big yellow light started flashing he looked very excited and relieved.
Spotting misses at that distance is the key and once Rubin and Scott called his miss he dialed in and rang the gong like the dinner bell on the Ponderosa.
We shot on the gentle slope of what looked like dead grass but beneath it was volcanic rock so we could see chunks of black rock flying around but very little dust.
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Cool! Thanks for the update and pics!

Looks like a good time was had by everyone.

Any more pics?
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Do you think the best and biggest spotting scope like the Swarovski BTX 95mm or ATX/stx 30-70 95mm could make spotting easier that day, or the mirage just makes them all useless?

On my rifle scope I had to dial magnification down to 10-15x on a sunny day even in hills not dessert, but I have not tried my crappy vortex razor hd spotting scope in those conditions.


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Wnick308 from Calguns gave it a try and when that big yellow light started flashing he looked very excited and relieved.

Spotting misses at that distance is the key and once Rubin and Scott called his miss he dialed in and rang the gong like the dinner bell on the Ponderosa.

We shot on the gentle slope of what looked like dead grass but beneath it was volcanic rock so we could see chunks of black rock flying around but very little dust.





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Old 08-01-2019, 5:54 PM
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I think Ruben was using a Schmidt and Bender 85 binocular spotter and his calls were all spot on.
URSA regular whitemamba just got his 95mm Swarovski binocular spotter but I have yet to look through it.
This isn't going to sound right but your glass needs to be better than the guys your shooting against then you have an edge on them.
In that kind of heat nothing seems to work even the laser range finders can't get a reading like they can in the morning.

That picture is of my 338 Lapua Ackley Improved and I wasn't using a rear rest just trying to spot a hit and that never happened in two days.
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I've got good Leica HD and Swarovski spotters and use one or the other several times a week. If there is mirage, it's going to wipe out the image no matter what.
If I ever manage to make an event, I'll bring them both. You people and your weekends off though...
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Congrats to all who went and competed. And especially to Lynn for taking the win. Any word on the re-opening at the site in Upper Lake?
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Any word on the re-opening at the site in Upper Lake?
I did a flyby for Lynn to Upper Lake site last weekend and it it had reopened.

The target road and 2K shooting position are overgrown. The road in doesn't look like it's in much different condition. There are a lot of burned trees near the road in that could come down, but there are 2 ways into that spot.
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Shaun's pictures of our UpperLake location.
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Shaun's pictures of our UpperLake location.
I'd be willing to go a day early to get things cleared out for a late summer match.I'm just glad it's open as it's been 2 years since I've been able to attend.
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Hell, those photos look downright pleasant!
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Yeah when Shaun sent the pictures I was very happy to see it open.
I was told June/July of 2020 so a huge Kudo to the forest service for getting it open.
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For those wondering why there isn't anything up on the URSA site, I'm waiting on build sheet info from Vaughn (for the Stats spreadsheets) - several important items not included in his online registration (which I don't seat up front - only after a shooter nails an achievement target, which Vaughn did). Sent him e-mail on Thursday but as yet no reply. [That e-mail didn't bounce.]
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I'd be willing to go a day early to get things cleared out for a late summer match.I'm just glad it's open as it's been 2 years since I've been able to attend.
That was my hope also and I asked Lynn as soon as he let me know about the re-opening. I had forgotten to check the July, August, and September NorCal event schedules. All are identified as "dark, hunting season" (both 2017 and 2018). Current plan is October.
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Lynn,

Not sure if you want to revisit some of the info I’ve passed on years ago. But if your going back out again to take advantage of the 6500’+ DA in summer months you can do a few things that do help work around the mirage.

1. Use much thinner & lighter AR500 past 2k. Even with a lighter 250gr 338 you see the plate wiggle. Solids don’t leave much frag signature as you know, but if the plate is in the right spot you will get some.

Here is an example of a solid hit high on the plate (less movement) but it still moves enough to see on the scope. https://youtu.be/0bZI6YazyO8 (you have to scroll to about a minute+)

2. Use the edges of the sinks where they transition toward the backstops for setting targets. You be able spots almost every miss of any magnum even 160grn, with 338 and 375 really easy. Here is a 250 grain miss - you have to scrub through the video a bit but you can see the large splash through the shooters scope at the distances you are shooting https://youtu.be/RCGl2J3pRDE (FWIW I stopping the recording after the first shoot to work on something; this is the second shot. You have to scroll to about a minute+..held a bit to much wind @R3.5mil or 12MOA, but the miss is so close the miss spears to be from behind the 24" plate. - Later, I started using a telephoto lenses and helped fix that issue, by keeping the camera in line.)

3. The target cam thing really is worth it when anything over 15x is tough to see. Of course tables are easier than prone in that the mirage is slightly less. One cam, can feed lots of monitors. Lastly, you can just use the record function to verify a shooters hits, with a light malfunction etc.

8-9 or so of us are going up next weekend, but we’re setting up a full range from 100 out to 2k..


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Lynn did you shot up in Sparks today?

We had good low temps today about 12 of us plinking and had 2 ranges set up at 90* to each other across the road from where you guys shot. Here is one of the ranges - most the guys are shooting on the other range, 90*. From this image-

Some are still camping ~ but I ran back to Fernely to have dinner and a beer.


Had lots of targets out from ELR to close ranges with skylined and dead space problems to solve, so it was fun. Guys shooting close to 2K needed about 4-6mils (20 moa) of wind; but it is a small caliber weekend.

Had a buddy with a back injury on a table on the second range. Your bench would have worked well.


Lots of targets from 269y to the very back of the sink (white area); left the left of the hill..




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No I had to work on Saturday and now I have court for two weeks and a roof that needs final inspection so I get my permit signed off.
That's a very good location that looks perfectly flat but it isn't.
I walked the entire distance and couldn't see a full sized 4X4 half of the time.
I did see the locations others were using but due to the gong weight we couldn't use those spots.
It's deer season now and I have yet to work up my hunting load.
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Where is this shooting location at, is it a "members only" or can anyone shoot, and looking at the terrain in the pics and vehicles, does one need 4x4 to access, no problem here with that, gotta 2000 Dodge Durango in 4x4...am thinking if I get the RPR I want in .338, I wanna be able to take it out as far as I can...
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and couldn't see a full sized 4X4 half of the time.

It's deer season now and I have yet to work up my hunting load.
Ya, that's what I am always referring to as "dead space". People often look out across the desert ant think it is flat. While dead space isn't hard cover, the small rises and dips can hide hundreds or even thousands of yards once prone or whatever.

Good luck for the opener.. I have third rifle Elk, unit 011 in CO, However, that isn't until Nov. But leaving for Wyoming in two days.. I agree busy times..
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Out of curiosity, what does a non-resident tag like that cost?
Sorry way off topic - from Lynn and Oscar's thread.

With Taxes, License and Tag about $600 -- So a trip is about $2,500ish each by the time it is done.

Same thing in Wyoming, for Antelope it is just under $300 & $700ish for Elk. But having a house in Wyoming and my son having lived there full time for a year, my 19yr old Son, is $34/$57.. The down side, his Ca pig tags are now up from $24 to $81
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Sorry way off topic - from Lynn and Oscar's thread.

With Taxes, License and Tag about $600 -- So a trip is about $2,500ish each by the time it is done.

Same thing in Wyoming, for Antelope it is just under $300 & $700ish for Elk. But having a house in Wyoming and my son having lived there full time for a year, my 19yr old Son, is $34/$57.. The down side, his Ca pig tags are now up from $24 to $81
That's not terrible if you're going mostly for the fun. I remember back when I used to hunt, in the local area they drew 2 antelope tags a year. Two!
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Where is this shooting location at, is it a "members only" or can anyone shoot, and looking at the terrain in the pics and vehicles, does one need 4x4 to access, no problem here with that, gotta 2000 Dodge Durango in 4x4...am thinking if I get the RPR I want in .338, I wanna be able to take it out as far as I can...
If you shoot any of our 2000+ yard matches there is no membership and never a fee.
That location is 65 miles east of Reno on exit 65 hence the name.
Bring a gong and shoot almost year round on nice roads with no 4 wheel drive required.
If you read Divers post carefully there are drainages and upheavals that make getting out past a mile more work but worth it.
I thought I had it mapped out in 5 minutes until I laid down on the ground and could hardly see the mountain in the background.
If you don't mind shooting slightly uphill you are good to go out past 4000+ yards.
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Wow, I didnt know it was near Reno, unfortunately a tad bit too far of a drive for me but damm it looks beautiful out there. Thanks for the response, appreciate it.
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Wow, I didnt know it was near Reno, unfortunately a tad bit too far of a drive for me but damm it looks beautiful out there. Thanks for the response, appreciate it.
Sorry for any confusion...

The URSA shoot was a few miles North of these images across the freeway.

You can see them under Lynn's post. His shoot has an organized format and you can learn more here: https://www.unlimitedrange.org/


The pictures with the blue skies was just 12 friends, low key having a good time. Most of them shoot PRS matches, so we had 3 ranges with a lot of steel set up from 100 out to 1300ish for dope gathering and one from 850 to just about 2K.

We were out there Friday, Sat and Sunday.
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