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Old 11-09-2021, 7:45 AM
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Default Ruger LC9 vs M&P Shield

Iím a female thinking of adding another pistol to my CCW. I currently have a Glock 19 registered but I hardly carry it because itís big. I really wanted a Ruger LC9, but those are off roster and I donít know anyone selling one right now. Does anyone have any experience carrying either/ have suggestions for another pistol thatís comparable?
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Old 11-09-2021, 7:46 AM
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The Shield would be a good alternative. I have a Shield Plus for my EDC and it is very comfortable to carry.
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Old 11-09-2021, 8:18 AM
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I'll trade you a LC9 for your G19. Where are you located?
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Old 11-09-2021, 8:33 AM
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Old 11-09-2021, 8:39 AM
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I have a Shield and a LC9. The LC9 is nice because it is small and light. The Shield is bit taller/longer and heavier. The LC9 has a long trigger pull.
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Old 11-09-2021, 8:40 AM
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Kahr PM9 is on roster - a bit smaller than the Ruger, though, so maybe too small.
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Old 11-09-2021, 8:49 AM
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Shield > LC9.

But keep the 19. You never know when you may carry it should the occasion arise (wearing winter clothing).

If youre not impartial to 9mm, try a Sig P238. It’s a great gun and very concealable, but in .380.
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I have an LC-9, the older version with a double action only trigger and a hammer. Some people hate on the trigger on this gun, I like it because it's very much like a DA revolver trigger. I'm confident that I'll never have a negilgent discharge with it. It's not a target gun, it's a carry gun. It's also smaller that a shield.

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Old 11-09-2021, 6:40 PM
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Default Ruger LC9 vs M&P Shield

I much prefer the Shield, though I like the idea of the LC9. Trigger was just way too heavy on the LCR and affected my accuracy. I could shoot the Shield better than some bigger guns, it just works very well for me.
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Old 11-10-2021, 12:06 AM
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The Ruger is thinner, more rounded, lighter and easier to carry and conceal, plus the magazines are thinner and easier to conceal. The Shield-1 is on the roster so you can buy it new. It and the magazines are stainless and handle body sweat better. It's probably easier to shoot well with less practice for most people if you are talking the old hammer and double action trigger pull LC9, but either is fine if you practice regularly. There are newer guns that are better, but the Shield -1 is on the roster so it's probably the best choice for micro 9 in CA if you don't want to pay 2x or more retail to a private party reseller.
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Old 11-11-2021, 5:00 PM
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I’d take a shield over lc9. When I bought my carry gun it was gonna either be a shield or g43 found a g43 last year for 500 bucks.
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Old 11-12-2021, 4:14 AM
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You can buy a LC380CA and a 9mm conversion kit (slide, barrel, recoil spring and guide rod, magazine). Depending on the agency issuing the CCW, that should get you what you want.

I wish we could get the LC9S in CA, I really like the design, but the heavy, long trigger played havoc with my ability to hit the broad side of a barn... AKA I didn't shoot the gun well enough to feel good about it.

Never tried a Shield myself, other than over the LGS counter, didn't like the heavy slide rack and overall feel, plus had less than stellar luck with a SD9VE (again, couldn't shoot it accurately), but a P95 I picked up used shot one ragged hole first time, every time. I've had good luck with Rugers... except the LC9...

The Sig P238 shoots well for me, my wife loves hers, and by the time you buy a LC380 and conversion.... it's worth a look.

It's just a shame we can't get all the cool "toys" in CA.... then our options would be plentiful like in the free states! Living in CA we can't have "nice things"....
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G26???
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Old 11-13-2021, 8:50 PM
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Make sure you can rack a shield.

it's a nice size.

An LCP is going to be the next size down.
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Old 11-15-2021, 10:02 PM
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I think you actually want a Sig P238. Carries much smaller than a Shield - fits in a sandwich bag, actually.
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Old 11-15-2021, 10:54 PM
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I have both. I did a kit on my LC9 that shortened the trigger pull. I thought it was Apex. It's a weird thing but I can shoot the LC9 as well as the Shield. The LC9 is easier to carry, mostly I carry front pocket. I never really got comfortable with a holster.
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Old 11-15-2021, 10:56 PM
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I gave my daughter an LC9 with Apex trigger mod. Yes, it has a long hard double action pull that make tight groups at the range more difficult. She has tried many different striker fired and single action guns. At the end of the day, she prefers the LC9 trigger to lessen the possibility of an accidental discharge. If she ever needs to shoot an attacker, she feels hitting center mass at close range won't be a problem given her comfort level with the LC9. Small enough to carry in her purse with the power to get the job done.
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Old 11-18-2021, 9:57 AM
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Shield (orginal) over LC9. My wife shoots the shield much better, but wanted the manual safety of the LC9. I think we are going to get her a shield ez in 9mm with thumb safety. If she just puts the gun in her purse it has a grip safety and a thumb safety for firing. I encourage a holster, but sometimes it just ends up in a zipper pocket in her purse.
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Old 11-18-2021, 11:14 AM
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Shield (orginal) over LC9. My wife shoots the shield much better, but wanted the manual safety of the LC9. I think we are going to get her a shield ez in 9mm with thumb safety. If she just puts the gun in her purse it has a grip safety and a thumb safety for firing. I encourage a holster, but sometimes it just ends up in a zipper pocket in her purse.

Either way, get a trigger guard cover. They come with a length of paracord that makes the cover stay in the bag when you draw.


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Old 11-20-2021, 11:10 PM
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I've got both the Shield and LC9. I dropped the Shield from my permit as it wasn't a substantial improvement over the Ruger. The LC9 has the same langth and height as the Shield, but it's less bulky and can be pocket carried more easily. Neither is a bad choice, though.
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Old 11-23-2021, 10:11 PM
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I found the Shield very easy to shoot well, at least compared to most micro-sized pistols. I tried an LC9 and found that its hard trigger pull and snappy report made accuracy difficult. Not so with the Shield. While not as smooth and easy as a G34, it handles very easily for a compact gun. I'm very happy with my Shield and it is a constant companion.
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Old 11-23-2021, 11:38 PM
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LC9 trigger has a false reset too

Once fired and you are releasing the trigger you get a loud click. But if you pull it can't fire. You must keep releasing until you get a second click.


Once you learn to reset the trigger the LC9 can get you killed as it can't fire after the first click
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Something else Iíve got my eye on is the Kahr micros, the PM9 is considerably smaller than the Shield. CM series is the budget line, still supposed to be good
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Old 11-24-2021, 9:24 PM
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Keep your G19, LCís are POS, Kahr are quality item, P238 are great!
Be safe and have fun!
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Old 11-25-2021, 7:24 AM
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I carry a tiny single stack Kahr PM9 when I jog. It's small and light, I can barely feel it's there. Wore it at my wedding too.

My wife carries a SW shield EVERYWHERE. She carries with a bellyband or fanny pack, depending on her attire. It's small enough that it doesn't create a tumorous bulge if she prints, and the gun fits her small hands well enough that she's comfortable and proficient with it. It's slightly bigger than my PM9.

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Something else Iíve got my eye on is the Kahr micros, the PM9 is considerably smaller than the Shield. CM series is the budget line, still supposed to be good

The CM just have a bit less machining on the outside of the slide. Other than that, IFAIK, theyíre the same a the P/PM versions.

Iíve had my P9 for 20 years now, and love the gun. Trigger is distinct from other guns. Itís a totally different feel than any other handgun Iíve shot, but easy to shoot well.


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I might suggest a look into your holster and belt system. This woman has a lot of helpful videos on how to conceal carry a larger pistol.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCr4...nENaQZg/videos

This person also seems squared away when it comes to concealed carry advivce:

https://www.instagram.com/howicarry/
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Shield.

Trigger on the lc9 is not good. Even with a Galloway trigger on there…eh… it was ok.
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Old 11-25-2021, 11:58 AM
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Cw9 is cheap and reliable.
And I just bought m605 hope is good one
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When you hold them in your hand you'll notice one major difference.
The shield will let you grab one more finger on the grip without extension mag.
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