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Gatorade bottle in a dump pouch or ice chest. I hate hydration packs. People overthink hydration IMHO.
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So steel plates with liners still bad? lol
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Steel plates with buildup coat and aramid liners (2x spall guards) are GTG in my book as far as stopping everything and multiple hits in the exact same spot easily, but the weight is the con. When you see level IV composites coming down to under 6 pounds each and no huge worries about spall... it seems like technology is catching up and making them obsolete.
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I have two steel sets and they are not installed in carriers FWIW. |
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Yep I thought the same. Looks more like trauma pad glued to it then shot. Of course it gets destroyed like that. No spall buildup coating videos look like that... DIY is not the way to go. Andrew - Lancaster, CA NRA Life Member, CRPA member, Calguns.net contributor, CGF / SAF / FPC / CCRKBA / GOA / NAGR / NRA-ILA contributor, USCCA member - Support your defenders! |
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Spall on Steel can be mitigated. Steel is too heavy. Steel is not a great option nowadays. Steel DOES hold up well. Personally I'd rather have redundant composite setups. Some may still choose steel. YMMV. IMHO. Definitely no need to call people names or get riled up. |
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10x12 L210s will fit the medium JPC 1.0. Dont know about the 2.0 but I'm guessing they will fit the medium 2.0 as well. The JPC is designed for USGI SAPI cut plates but L210s are very thin and the JPC is very stretchy so they will fit even though they are wider and shorter than SAPIs. There will be about an inch gap in the bottom to fill up with some foam like material.
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I use a medium in the jcp2.0 and it fits with a little extra room. I would get the spartan backers to get more fill. A large jpc2.0 would be too big for the l210
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Yeah but prepared to wait 6+ months if you order direct.
Plenty of retailers have had JPCs in stock the recent weeks. Best bet is to just sign up for emails or check here religiously. https://www.evike.com/products/58089/ Evike has black/coyote in stock in medium. https://www.first-spear.com/10x12-pa...-non-ballistic These fill out the JPC nice and cheap but have no ballistic protection. Last edited by Master_Prestige; 01-09-2021 at 12:33 PM.. |
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Evike is the retailer, Crye is the manufacturer. Some airsoft retailers sell the real stuff as well as copies. Evike pretty much sells everything. Its funny because sometimes the airsoft retailers like Evike will have more gear in stock faster than other retailers.
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https://www.optactical.com/hespthshcutr.html
“L210 restock” https://www.optactical.com/crprjpc20.html Multicam JPC 2.0 in stock |
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Just my 2 cents. BLUF: I suggest folks have both a set of ceramics and a steel plates if you are a prepper and/or workout.
Ceramics plates are great when your agency/department is replacing them ever 5 years or when you dropped them hard. But if you are a civilian prepper, you may want to keep a set of back up steel plates since they have +20 year shelf life. My ceramics just sit in the closet. But I workout with my steel plates (level 3+ lightweight) so I get a ROI. They've actually paid for themselves already. It pains me to pay to replace my soft armor plates and panels (level 3a) every 5 years, but it'll hurt a little more to replace my ceramic plates (level 4) in a few years from now. I believe 3+ will cover threats in my area, but level 4 ceramics do give me more peace of mind against AP rounds. With all the pros and cons, have a set of each, ceramics and steel (with trauma pads) in your kit. I suggest RMA 1155 and AR500 level 3+ lightweight with build up coat. Each set will weigh 16.5 lbs. Hesco/BAO L210 for about 11 lbs a set if your body just cannot take the stress anymore. But if you are young, start with heavier ceramics, train with them, then go lighter when its time to replace them and keep training. |
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%100 wrong on the 5 year lifespan. Been proven time and time again that’s just a “warranty” not shelf life. There is 15+, 20+ year kevlars that are still holding up. There’s people testing 15 year old ceramics with zero problems. Leave the R&D to Buffman. |
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Anyone know if there are other brands that make mag pouches that are compatible with the JPC velcro system?
I want the AVS™ DETACHABLE FLAP M4 FLAT mag pouches but no one has em in stock. |
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Thats why I prefer the JPC1.0 over the 2.0. The 1.0 already has a molle front flap with integrated 3 mag pouch. You can carry 3 m4 mags right out of the box. And its $40 cheaper.
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I'm satisfied with my 4-pc Level III+ plates in my Weesatch plate carrier with 6x2 mag pouches. Is it a heavy pig to wear, yes, and I'd never wear that rig over water but it's my hunker-down gear. If I need to pull that on, I'll be behind cover & leaning on something. It's not meant for running & gunning.
Yeah, I'll eventually go to PE plates, but after it improves another gen or 2, and after getting NVGs
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Wanting to go a different direction with my setup (Shellback Patriot with lightweight AR500 level 3+ that I mostly use for exorcise). After re-reading this entire thread and then some, I ended up buying a Crye Airlite SPC. Now I need to find a set of large plates to match it and my body size (long torso). My criteria is finding sub 6lbs per plate, level “III+” or level 4, multi curve, and under $400 per plate.
So far it looks like I should be considering the RMA 1093 which is listed at $319.99 each with a 6-8 week lead time. Any other good suggestions that I may have missed? Thanks for any input. Take care.
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https://haleystrategic.com/shop/soft...gs/d3crm-micro
Haley restocked some micros. Little late to the party. Arid is still in stock Don’t forget your inserts. https://haleystrategic.com/shop/soft...g-insert-black |
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Thanks for the tip. Got one! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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glad you got one ! They’re still somehow mediums in stock
Some guy really has the audacity to try to sell these MCB for $850 even saw a guy for $2,000 here on CG. Get it now for $350. |
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Not all 10x12s are the same. The L210s are very thin so they fit. But plates like the Battlesteel or LAPG plates wont fit.
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