Rossi 16" ...what wood is this ?

[green grunt]

Just got it home... trying to figure what the heck type of wood they use down there....

been after a 16" 357mag for some time now... while I was DROsing it another guy walked in and wanted to buy it...to late it's MINE...lol

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[pennstater]

Damn! Now that is the strangest wood stock I can recall ever seeing on a Rossi.
And I've seen a bunch. Not a clue. Hmmm.

MLC

[golfish]

As far as I know its Brazilian mystery wood, Guajuvira wood, tabebuia wood, Rubberwood.

Your buttstock is a little different then most. It would be nice if it matched the forend stock. You might be able to help with that.

Is it a new gun? CBC stamped?

[Dano3467]

Is this a brand new gun ?

To me. The grain looks a lot like Douglas fir.

I could be wrong, but sure looks like it.

[green grunt]

brand new CBC marked ..... yep... wish the reddish handguard matched... it is different !

[golfish]

I've had 5 Rossi's, 3 older guns and 2 CBC guns. I'm down to 2 now. Rossi really has some nice bluing on their 92s.

Please let us know how it cycles and shoots

[200Apples]

Go to Steve's Guns webpage, read between the lines for what you might do to slick that sweet sumbiotch right up.

A spring kit, some stoning of the bolt, and so on.

I don't have a link handy but if you've never disassembled a Win 1892, there are some tricks to it. There are YouTube vids. The one I remember was an Aussie or NZ rancher, taking his apart on a bench in the veterinary room, repleat with braying donkeys and moo-ing cattle in the background audio.



That's how I larnt it!

[Pofoo]

Originally Posted by Dano3467

Is this a brand new gun ?

To me. The grain looks a lot like Douglas fir.

I could be wrong, but sure looks like it.

HaHa, my first thoughts exactly. Looks like a 2x4 from HomeDepot.

[1nsanity]

Mines actually came with similar furniture as OP and also a newer CBC model. I found the CBC 92’s surprisingly done well, or at least the new 92 I stumbled on at my local shop. The action was smooth from the start. I didn’t really have to smooth out anything initially as I have had to do on my Braztech models. I did toss on a spare Rangerpoint trigger I had lying around and a rail and red dot setup I had on one of my Ranchhands which, incidentally has the canted barrel issue, though the Ranch Hand works and zeroes fine.

[golfish]

Originally Posted by 1nsanity

Mines actually came with similar furniture as OP and also a newer CBC model. I found the CBC 92’s surprisingly done well, or at least the new 92 I stumbled on at my local shop. The action was smooth from the start. I didn’t really have to smooth out anything initially as I have had to do on my Braztech models. I did toss on a spare Rangerpoint trigger I had lying around and a rail and red dot setup I had on one of my Ranchhands which, incidentally has the canted barrel issue, though the Ranch Hand works and zeroes fine.

My last CBC gun has a canted barrel...and the one before it has an oversized barrel. The wood on both does seem better then the BT guns but all the other crap is the same.

The barrel band screw (front stock) on the first CBC gun was broken which has always been a huge problem with the BT guns. The Mag plug screw on the 2nd gun was stripped clean and held in with loctite. I've seen that before on the barrel band screws too. Rossi's idea is to ship as many guns as possible and let the buyers do the quality control...

[M1NM]

Looks like it was carved out of a Home Depot 2x6 and dipped in red stain.

[DaveInOroValley]

Reminds me of an old joke with a bet and a blind man in a bar that can guess the type of wood just by smelling it. I can't tell the joke here as we are a family site.

[1nsanity]

I did not even realize they changed importers or at least in name. My friend at the shop pulled it out for me when I stopped by since he was actually surprised on how nice it functioned out the box. Plus, was one of the first Rossi's I've seen as there was a major dry spell since covid started. I did a typical checkup on it as I had gotten used to how problematic the braztechs were, though I know my way around them enough and can easily fix them myself, outside of the notorious canted barrel issue and bit the bullet and DROSd. When I got it home did a strip down for cleaning and found no real issues. I’ve taken it to the range quite a few times and has become one of my favored range pieces besides my Miroku and Marlin.

Incidentally stumbled on a Marlin 1894C 357 Presafety and with Gold trigger. Outside of some minor rust underneath the wood and stock, appears to be unshot or just barely. Can’t wait until I get it out of 10 day.

[golfish]

There are some good ones out there, I'm 0 for 5 and I don't think I'll do another.

Congrats on the Marlin. I've got a Remlin made in 2018 that I wouldn't trade. I guess we both got lucky

[1nsanity]

Originally Posted by golfish

There are some good ones out there, I'm 0 for 5 and I don't think I'll do another.

Congrats on the Marlin. I've got a Remlin made in 2018 that I wouldn't trade. I guess we both got lucky

Wonderful that you were able to find a gem to keep.

Remlins were a mixed bag for me though I caught myself eyeing those csbl’s for the longest. Loved the news on Ruger’s acquisition.

Anywho, here is my 92 under CBC. It’s actually marked “CBC Braztech International”. Similar furniture as OP though my forearm to stock grain blends well.

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A canted barrel on a Ranchhand I missed during the golden years of SSE in ca. I was laxed as the canting wasn't bad. Granted tossed in the safe unshot for years as I bought these for nostalgia and because I think they are cool. Only on a whim I decided to take it to the range, where i caught the canting while sighting. It did not effect accuracy and fed everything I threw in her without a hitch and really has grown on me once I was able to figure out a shooting style that was comfortable to me. And yes, settled back onto the factory buckhorns over a reddot I tried and went back and forth on. I actually do well on those style of sights hahaha.
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[golfish]

I hear ya. I looked it over before dros, shot it on 3 different desert trips and never noticed it. It does shoot good. I happened to read something online about the new CBC guns having canted barrels, took my two out and sure enough, the 357s barrels was canted slightly to the left. Can't sell that one. (On top)

The middle R92 short rifle is the best of the bunch. Cycled 38 and 357, shoots great but the mag tube is welded in to the reciever. I tried just about everything to get it out. Can't sell that one either.

Then the Remlin 1894c on the bottom is just a wonderful gun.

[pennstater]

Originally Posted by golfish

I hear ya. I looked it over before dros, shot it on 3 different desert trips and never noticed it. It does shoot good. I happened to read something online about the new CBC guns having canted barrels, took my two out and sure enough, the 357s barrels was canted slightly to the left. Can't sell that one. (On top)

The middle R92 short rifle is the best of the bunch. Cycled 38 and 357, shoots great but the mag tube is welded in to the reciever. I tried just about everything to get it out. Can't sell that one either.

Then the Remlin 1894c on the bottom is just a wonderful gun.

Now, that is a desert trio right there!

MLC

[1nsanity]

Originally Posted by golfish

I hear ya. I looked it over before dros, shot it on 3 different desert trips and never noticed it. It does shoot good. I happened to read something online about the new CBC guns having canted barrels, took my two out and sure enough, the 357s barrels was canted slightly to the left. Can't sell that one. (On top)

The middle R92 short rifle is the best of the bunch. Cycled 38 and 357, shoots great but the mag tube is welded in to the reciever. I tried just about everything to get it out. Can't sell that one either.

Then the Remlin 1894c on the bottom is just a wonderful gun.

Is the middle one one of those Rossi 1892 Case hardened Octagon variants?! Pre Braztech? I regret letting mines go though was a trade I couldn’t pass up

[golfish]

Originally Posted by 1nsanity

Is the middle one one of those Rossi 1892 Case hardened Octagon variants?! Pre Braztech? I regret letting mines go though was a trade I couldn’t pass up

No, that's a Braztech gun.

[1nsanity]

Originally Posted by golfish

No, that's a Braztech gun.

Ahhhhh… thought they were imported in before Braztech with previous importer. The weight of octagon 92’s feel more balanced to me. And I love case harden finish. Also, add in a takedown variant which I have been pining for…. So when I had the opportunity to pick up one of the newer Miroku Trapper takedowns I just couldn’t pass it up! Pic of it with the ranchhand when I was trying out the reddot setup with it.

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[whutsup40]

Originally Posted by M1NM

Looks like it was carved out of a Home Depot 2x6 and dipped in red stain.

My thoughts exactly!!

[1nsanity]

Originally Posted by whutsup40

My thoughts exactly!!

You know, I never really looked at mines as I was caught up on it’s functionality but the more I look at mines, the more I am beginning to see how cheesy it kind of looks lol!

Also, OP, I apologize on thread jacking a little and going off topic. I’m used to just lurking the marketplace only and forgot common etiquette.


I am thinking of swapping out it’s furniture

[LindenBruce]

It's prolly this wood. Exotic for sure. I just bought several planks for two window sills I will be replacing soon. B.

https://www.wood-database.com/purpleheart/

[golfish]

Originally Posted by 1nsanity

You know, I never really looked at mines as I was caught up on it’s functionality but the more I look at mines, the more I am beginning to see how cheesy it kind of looks lol!

Also, OP, I apologize on thread jacking a little and going off topic. I’m used to just lurking the marketplace only and forgot common etiquette.


I am thinking of swapping out it’s furniture

I wonder if some dark stain would make it look better? I used some stain and varnish remover on my CBC 357 and got a nice dark finish using some dark walnut stain. It's worth a try.

[green grunt]

dark stain might work... but... I'm going to put a nice Butt Cuff on it and won't see the wood much anyway...

I hear some have canted barrels... how can you tell.. I mean .. what to look for ?
my 20" is a Stright shooter and feeds everything ... hoping this one shoot as well...

and where do you guys find those cool looking butt stock covers ??...

[golfish]

Originally Posted by green grunt

dark stain might work... but... I'm going to put a nice Butt Cuff on it and won't see the wood much anyway...

I hear some have canted barrels... how can you tell.. I mean .. what to look for ?
my 20" is a Stright shooter and feeds everything ... hoping this one shoot as well...

and where do you guys find those cool looking butt stock covers ??...

I honestly think the dark stain will do wonders...

Just hold the gun straight out and up, see if the sights are clocked to one side.

I've bought all of mine from Jon at gun stock cover's. He's usually a month or two behind but it's worth the wait.

https://gunstockcover.com/

[green grunt]

[QUOTE=golfish;27477327]I honestly think the dark stain will do wonders...

Just hold the gun straight out and up, see if the sights are clocked to one side.

got it.... but... how do you know if'n it's the barrel or the front sight dove tail cut wrong.. ?

[golfish]

[QUOTE=green grunt;27477387]

Originally Posted by golfish

I honestly think the dark stain will do wonders...

Just hold the gun straight out and up, see if the sights are clocked to one side.

got it.... but... how do you know if'n it's the barrel or the front sight dove tail cut wrong.. ?

On the one I have, both sighs are off to the left. It could be the dove tails cut wrong, the barrel was over tightened (can they shim a barrel?) The threads cut wrong..I'd guess they're other things that can happen.

[green grunt]

Thanks....I'll have to look it over really well
Thanks golfish for the link on those butt stock shell holders
Lots to chose from....can't wait to shoot it...and fancy it up just a bit

[nickel plate]

it appears that the lighter grain lines are denser in fiber than the softer dark grain lines, thus the different rate of color absorption. This is quite common in Douglas fir and other soft woods. You might try mixing in some oil based solid body paint that is closely equal in color to the oil based stain of your choice, in your case the darker the better.

[swiftone]

Man - I would had killed for a grain pattern like that! Mine is boring.

Here is mine after I stripped and refinished the wood on the one I own...and the thread of the before/during/after process

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s....php?t=1829216

[golfish]

Originally Posted by pennstater

Now, that is a desert trio right there!

MLC

As soon as it warms up after the holidays we're gonna have to get out.

Did you and the missus go out last Saturday, or was it the Saturday before. I recall you mentioning that you might go out.

[SVT-40]

Looks like stained Beech.

Below is a pic of unstained beech on a Swedish Mauser. Beech is a commonly used wood for stocks. Beech can be very plain or have good "flame" as the OP's gun stock and the stock below..

[1nsanity]

I would actually be happy with synthetic furniture for the Rossi’s. I saw and treated them more as a utility so I wouldn’t bang up my other Levers.

So newer CBC branded 92s still suffer same issues from Braztech eta? I’ve been somewhat out of the loop and was hoping mines isn’t an outlier….

[200Apples]

So newer CBC branded 92s still suffer same issues from Braztech eta?

What issues are those, exactly?

[200Apples]

I ask, because I bought this one 8 years ago next month, and it has been an absolute peach. It just keeps runnin' and runnin'.





I've done a bit of work on it though, to slick it up and install springs. Had to stake the cross pins in the bolt, and that's about all of the work I've had to do.

I consider this blued, 16" round-barrel .357 Magnum-chambered Rossi R92 to be an incredible value for a firearm when you consider it's power, the amount of fun it is to shoot and it's purchase price. Wish I had more like it, but I console myself with my six Marlin.

[1nsanity]

The ones that come to mind are the canted dovetail sights, rough actions from factory, POI hitting above POA still at full adjustment due to short front sight post.

[1nsanity]

Originally Posted by 200Apples

I ask, because I bought this one 8 years ago next month, and it has been an absolute peach. It just keeps runnin' and runnin'.





I've done a bit of work on it though, to slick it up and install springs. Had to stake the cross pins in the bolt, and that's about all of the work I've had to do.

I consider this blued, 16" round-barrel .357 Magnum-chambered Rossi R92 to be an incredible value for a firearm when you consider it's power, the amount of fun it is to shoot and it's purchase price. Wish I had more like it, but I console myself with my six Marlin.

Definitely, I have a fondness for the 1892 and the Rossi was such an iconic bargain that puts a smile on your face once you can work out the little kinks. A real bonus if you learn to fiddle with them yourself.

Now with the New Ruger/ Marlin era, I have such high expectations for the future of Marlin.

[golfish]

Originally Posted by 1nsanity

The ones that come to mind are the canted dovetail sights, rough actions from factory, POI hitting above POA still at full adjustment due to short front sight post.

I had to replace every front sight on my BT guns because they shot too high. The CBC guns are maxed out. They both shot ok at 50 yards but there was no room for adjustments to lower POI. A taller front sight was needed for the BT guns...just another thing I forgot to mention.

If your gun cycles both 38/357 and groups well, your good to go. You can fix everything else.

[pennstater]

Trust me fellow lever lovers, Apples[Chris] knows his way around lever rifles.

MLC