Rossi 16" ...what wood is this ?

[1nsanity]

You can try making a deeper notch on the rear sight if want to try keeping the front post on its lower profile.

Now I was given a rail setup intended for 92 Rossi before they were drilled and tapped, to try on the Ranchhand. Couldn’t get comfortable as I check the stock. So went back to irons. I need to take a pic of the rear blade that came on the Ranchhand as it looks like it’s warped completely out of symmetry. And this came from factory mind you as one of the only Rossis i bought new.

Then fell on this new CBC batch at my local shop and after feeling how smooth it was from factory, and no noticeable issues had to get it. I decided to give the rail and dot setup a go along with a check riser that would be perfect with it. Never thought the day would come but my eye sight isn’t what it used to be lol.

[golfish]

Originally Posted by 1nsanity

You can try making a deeper notch on the rear sight if want to try keeping the front post on its lower profile.

Now I was given a rail setup intended for 92 Rossi before they were drilled and tapped, to try on the Ranchhand. Couldn’t get comfortable as I check the stock. So went back to irons. I need to take a pic of the rear blade that came on the Ranchhand as it looks like it’s warped completely out of symmetry. And this came from factory mind you as one of the only Rossis i bought new.

Then fell on this new CBC batch at my local shop and after feeling how smooth it was from factory, and no noticeable issues had to get it. I decided to give the rail and dot setup a go along with a check riser that would be perfect with it. Never thought the day would come but my eye sight isn’t what it used to be lol.

I've tried Skinner sights and a few others. The best that work for me are the Mables
Bullseye rear sights. There's just something about them that work for me.

I'm thinking about turning my CBC gun over to Apples and see if he was get it running better. The only thing left to fix is that it doesn't like the longer .357 rounds...

Do ya read me brother

[1nsanity]

Originally Posted by golfish

I've tried Skinner sights and a few others. The best that work for me are the Mables
Bullseye rear sights. There's just something about them that work for me.

I'm thinking about turning my CBC gun over to Apples and see if he was get it running better. The only thing left to fix is that it doesn't like the longer .357 rounds...

Do ya read me brother

Forgive if I am a little slow on the up take but are you refering to Super Mag load?

I do like the Marbles or possibly a ladder sight but wanted to work with what I had on hand right now as I need to start budgeting a little lol. My friend just happened to pull out that older pre safety 1874 Marlin he had on consignment but had yet to put on the floor which I just DROS’d last week. Also this 24-3 Lew Horton which have been really mulling over if I needed another one that becomes another safe queen since the condition is too nice to shoot, though, my 696 is my designated shooter for that particular round lol. I have soft spot for 44 special…

I still have to start on my Christmas shopping…

Also did not mean any offense towards Apples. I’m not versed on many lever platforms just tinker a little on ones I’ve had and can always use insight when needed!

[200Apples]

None taken.

And anyone who appreciates .44 Special is right brethren in my book.

Did you mean “1894”? ‘cause the only 1874 I can think of off the top o’ me noggin’d be a Sharps.

Thanks Tom for the thought but I defer to men like kendog4570, Randall R., W.R.B., bigbossman, Spyder, et al when it comes to lever long gun knowledge…

[deckhandmike]

Originally Posted by Pofoo

HaHa, my first thoughts exactly. Looks like a 2x4 from HomeDepot.

That is one cheap looking stock.

[golfish]

When I said "The only thing left to fix is that it doesn't like the longer .357 rounds" I just meant that it doesn't like the longer .357 mag rounds. It does ok with .38sp.

I just need to get on it and see if I can fix it.

[200Apples]

Next time we convene I’ll have my smithy kit. I’ll have a look at it.

I’m no Randall Rausch, but I can stay at a Holiday Inn Express the night before…


(cheeeziss, how old is that joke, now?)

[1nsanity]

Apples - Ahhh another brother who can appreciate 44 specials versatility and application! And yes, a typo indeed. Meant 1894c 357 presafety. When he brought it from the backroom my eyes instantly fell on the goldtrigger. I pick it up Saturday. Raining this weekend anyway so no chance to run some trigger time to get a feel for it, though really needed to do some load development testing on a build.



Golfish - Curious on the issue it is exhibiting though doubt I can offer any advice that you haven't heard or know already. Have you isolated the issue at this point? My first guess would be ammo related with COAL or bullet type being a factor but sure you’ve already tested at this point. Does it function fine when operating at a slower controlled motion? Ammo ejecting on downward stroke? or jamming during upward stroke during the chambering process? or during extraction?

[200Apples]

Originally Posted by 1nsanity

Apples - Ahhh another brother who can appreciate 44 specials versatility and application!

I credit my affliction to Keith by way of Skelton, Taffin, Seyfried and Pearce. I am fortunate to own not one, not two, but three! Ruger New Model flattop .44 Special blackhawks, -plus- one S&W Model 696-1. The load I favor is a 255 grain MBW Keith LSWC atop Special brass over 7.5 grains Unique for 950 -and- 7.7 grains Unique for 1000 fps from my 4-5/8" flattop (only one I've chrono'd).

The 696's lockwork has been massaged by Teddy Jacobsen (again, this is Taffin's fault) in Texas, halfway along the revolver's journey from an east coast FFL. When the gun landed here in California as a SAO I restored it's complete function by installing it's original DA sear.

What I also discovered then through careful measurements using pin gauges was that the 696's chamber throats are too small, along with some thread choke in the bore. The cylinder needs reaming once I determine the groove diameter of the uncrushed portion of the bore, then the bore should see some pressure lapping to minimize the restriction. It shoots semjackted 200 grain fare acceptably, but I wish to shoot my lead loads in it. Yes, the forcing cone is factory thin. What's your take on this potential handicap? and what do you like to shoot through your 696?

And yes, a typo indeed. Meant 1894c 357 presafety. When he brought it from the backroom my eyes instantly fell on the goldtrigger. I pick it up Saturday. Raining this weekend anyway so no chance to run some trigger time to get a feel for it, though really needed to do some load development testing on a build.

I have a 1989-ish built 1894CS357 that needed work to feed reliably. What a great carbine, though! It is a treasure indeed.

[1nsanity]

Originally Posted by 200Apples

I credit my affliction to Keith by way of Skelton, Taffin, Seyfried and Pearce. I am fortunate to own not one, not two, but three! Ruger New Model flattop .44 Special blackhawks, -plus- one S&W Model 696-1. The load I favor is a 255 grain MBW Keith LSWC atop Special brass over 7.5 grains Unique for 950 -and- 7.7 grains Unique for 1000 fps from my 4-5/8" flattop (only one I've chrono'd).

The 696's lockwork has been massaged by Teddy Jacobsen (again, this is Taffin's fault) in Texas, halfway along the revolver's journey from an east coast FFL. When the gun landed here in California as a SAO I restored it's complete function by installing it's original DA sear.

What I also discovered then through careful measurements using pin gauges was that the 696's chamber throats are too small, along with some thread choke in the bore. The cylinder needs reaming once I determine the groove diameter of the uncrushed portion of the bore, then the bore should see some pressure lapping to minimize the restriction. It shoots semjackted 200 grain fare acceptably, but I wish to shoot my lead loads in it. Yes, the forcing cone is factory thin. What's your take on this potential handicap? and what do you like to shoot through your 696?







I have a 1989-ish built 1894CS357 that needed work to feed reliably. What a great carbine, though! It is a treasure indeed.

Wow, seems like you have been really fine tuning her nicely. I have tried some of skeeter loads along with a few other stout recipes a friend cooked up on the 696 and his 24 before I started loading a long while back. These days I tend to be more conservative with the 696 which I traded that earlier 696 to that friend as he just fell in love with it and considering I did have an unmolested one in the safe, though I could not bring myself to shoot along with the unmolested 24-3. luckily I stumbled upon my brothers friend who was selling his 696 no dash, which the previous one was as well, a few years after and thankfully he shot frequently, otherwise probably could not bring myself to shoot if was another collectors grade piece lol.

I’ve settled with 200 gr. these days though I rarely shoot it except when the mood strikes. I just have too many options to shoot to be honest as I primarily go to my 357 revolvers and levers for fun. It would be perfect for carry when CCW really starts ramping up where I live which I have heard is due to that NY SCOTUS ruling which I thought unimaginable this part of CA.

Back to point, I don’t recall any real issues on the 696 moreso on the K frame 357 which I mostly collected, but again, thats if your pushing a diet of full house 125 loads and more hearsay but never really encountered. Unless you are trying to see if you can push it but again, that is what the 44 mag is for or even a 41. The 44 special has its own place which is why we appreciate it for what it is. I just be sure forcing cone is clean of buildup along with leading. I fall on the premise that I rarely clean bore except on my precision bolts unless issues and malfunctions start occurring though I do inspect often. I do keep an eye on my k frame 357s an the 696 on the forcing cone when running stout loads and when going back and forth between cast and plated especially. Also I only have prelocks not the newer locked classics which I believe they reinforced the forcing cone. This is just me so take it with a grain of salt as there are other more knowledgeable people who may have a different viewpoint I missed.

Now some gun porn which I swore I had a better pic of on my phone.
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[1nsanity]

Originally Posted by 200Apples

I have a 1989-ish built 1894CS357 that needed work to feed reliably. What a great carbine, though! It is a treasure indeed.

Some light rust where mag tube and wood is and some under neath the stock when I poped it off for inspection. Some handling marks on wood and blueing but nothing stood out as I wanted to check the more important elements as I plan to shoot it. Nice clean bore. Action was a little stiff as you would see on a new one and when I inspected looked like it was barely shot if at all. Maybe just another safe queen now that I think about it

[Mickey D]

Originally Posted by DaveInOroValley

Reminds me of an old joke with a bet and a blind man in a bar that can guess the type of wood just by smelling it. I can't tell the joke here as we are a family site.

Head door of a tuna troller. 😜😂