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Old 11-08-2018, 1:47 PM
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...their crap together in this state, “they” continue to lose.
You need to adjust your sense of who “they” are!

The “they” in your rant is “us”.

Help “us” win instead of calling on “them”!
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No we have a rapeist for a governor and the man who made sf a toilet cause you all did not vote for jhon cox
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I think Allen would have stood a way better chance against Newsom. Trump made an absolutely horrible decision endorsing Cox earlier this year, potentially costing Allen his spot on the Nov ballot.

That said, I voted for Cox this month, because given the two choices on the ballot, it would have been insane not to. For me, it wasn't a vote for Cox, it was a vote against Newsom.

Cox would have been a perfectly fine governor, but I knew from the very beginning that he didn't stand an ice cube's chance in hell of beating Newsom. Allen would've fared much better, IMO. 60% of californians are NEVER going to vote for an unattractive old rich white republican with a phallic last name. Allen would have been able to relate to the younger crowd better.

Oh well. See you guys in 2022
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you mean if there are any still left to vote in 2022. i'm sure many will have left, and a small handful will be in jail for having an improperly configured gun that will be against the law that gavin will pass.
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you mean if there are any still left to vote in 2022. i'm sure many will have left, and a small handful will be in jail for having an improperly configured gun that will be against the law that gavin will pass.
Probably.

The only ones left will be those of us who are unable to move. Unfortunately, anything short of a genocide can't get me to leave this state. Shared custody being the primary reason - but if the mom moves to another state, I'm out of here right away.
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Oh well. See you guys in 2022
Quite possibly, we all will be convicted felons by then.
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^^^^THIS! Fuc#k all the gun owners who voted for a single democrat or who did not vote for Cox. THEY are the real enemy in our midst!!
I voted for Di Fi . . . you do the best you can with the vote that you have. Neither represents my interests.
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Come on now. The Republicans run a fundamentalist carpet bagger, in CALIFORNIA, and you wonder why he lost?

Until the GOP gets their crap together in this state, they'll continue to lose.
So I take it ... you didn't vote for Cox ...
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When I went to vote no one asked me for my ID. I thought it was strange. My friend who is a former LEO and his wife told me the same thing. California is lost and next elections must have the new Real ID I believe? Who knows how many illegals voted
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the reason this state is "controlled" by the Democrats is because 2/3 of the republicans in this state won't even go vote.

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When I went to vote no one asked me for my ID. I thought it was strange. My friend who is a former LEO and his wife told me the same thing. California is lost and next elections must have the new Real ID I believe? Who knows how many illegals voted
Same, it's weird they don't ask for ID. If my wife still had her Hispanic maiden name there would have been over dozen with her same name.
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Same, it's weird they don't ask for ID. If my wife still had her Hispanic maiden name there would have been over dozen with her same name.
Don't you have to provide the street address either?
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Don't you have to provide the street address either?
Neither my wife nor I did, we just told them our names, it was at a elementary school, the people at the desk didn't seem like they knew what they were doing they kept going to the back to ask a guy (whom I'm guessing was in charge) questions, which made the short line of 10 people I was in become a 40 minute wait. Infact they tried making me do a provisional vote at first but then I pulled up the website and said you only do a provisional if your name isn't listed as registered or chose mail, neither of the case for me, then they gave me my real ballot. I had a feeling it was because I had a American flag hat and shirt on.
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Who knows, this may be a reach, but let Cox lose 2018, let Allen try again in 2022. Hopefully by then, national voter ID is out and then Allen has a chance. 4D chess! Never liked the idea of a carpetbagger being governor.

After governor, I'd like to see Allen try for US senator.
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Cox had more counties as a whole voting for him , 55% of the counties voted for him but Newsome had the counties with the highest populace. LA county alone was 1.3 million for Newsome
Son, counties don't have votes. It's pointless to go there.

People, in counties, have votes.

In my county, I did not vote for Newsome.
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I voted for Frankenstein- as did many others here. Does that count? We basically retired DeLeon by doing so.
I did too. Now i can tell all my liberal "friends" that I voted democrat and am not a straight "r" voter, very much unlike those partisan *******s! I feel empowered!
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Those who didn't vote for Cox tonight because you're sour about Travis Allen losing. Those who didn't like Newsom and Cox so didn't vote for neither. Those who were just too lazy to vote. THUMBS DOWN. This was a uphill fight but it wasn't a landslide win for Newsom.
Thank your fellow gun owners on this very board who vote DemoKrat. I'm sure some of the ones who favored the registration of our BBAW's won't be around much anymore after Newsom winning.


It really wasn't an election it was only a formality for Newsom to win.

I do agree thanks to you gun owners as well on this very board for not voting for Cox.
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It really wasn't an election it was only a formality for Newsom to win.

I do agree thanks to you gun owners as well on this very board for not voting for Cox.
I have Democrat gun owner friends (and I'm not talking guys that own 1 gun, these are guys that have dozens of handguns, rifles, etc) that voted for Hillary in 2016 and Newsom this week. They get offended when I tried to pursuade them to Trump or Cox, they truly are sheep and don't follow logic, only what they're told.
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Would have been nice if Cox campaigned gave speeches and rallies like Trump and put up TV ads. He did neither of them.

It's like he didn't want to win.

Worst candidate ever.
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Would have been nice if Cox campaigned gave speeches and rallies like Trump
You mean like Travis Allen did, and is still doing even AFTER he lost the midterms?

It blows my mind that people voted for Cox over Allen back in June. And then act surprised that Cox barely even tried to beat Newsom. People in this state are their own worst enemies.
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Who said anything about Allen hardcore supporters, I'm a Allen hardcore supporter, I donated money to his campaign and was passing fliers out at guneffects in city of industry asking for people to go out and vote and also support Allen. Why do you think hardcore Allen supporters didn't vote for Cox, I know myself and many friends who were Allen supporters go out yesterday and vote for Cox.
You are the low hanging fruit. It's easier for some people to blame you then except the fact California is beyond the tipping point or to admit that COX was a Dem Shill brought in to beat Villavillian who was not 2A friendly.

Don't get me wrong, ultimately I held my nose and voted Cox on the off chance there were enough Democrats voting who thought Newscum we too far left. I would vote for Obama or Hillary before I would vote for Newscum.


But back on topic. Some people just have to have someone to blame and this week it's "Hard Core Allen Supporters". Don't worry, next week it swings back to being Glock Fanboys.
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You are the low hanging fruit. It's easier for some people to blame you then except the fact California is beyond the tipping point or to admit that COX was a Dem Shill brought in to beat Villavillian who was not 2A friendly.

Don't get me wrong, ultimately I held my nose and voted Cox on the off chance there were enough Democrats voting who thought Newscum we too far left. I would vote for Obama or Hillary before I would vote for Newscum.


But back on topic. Some people just have to have someone to blame and this week it's "Hard Core Allen Supporters". Don't worry, next week it swings back to being Glock Fanboys.
It's a silly blame anyways, since I'm sure 99% of Allen's supporters did in fact vote for Cox ultimately. I did.
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Grindall61 on YouTube/Bit Chute has what I think is a good explanation: Democrat turnout was much higher than expected due to higher-than-the-rest-of-the-country Trump Derangement Syndrome in California.

It was Grindall61's explanation for why Dana Rohrabacher didn't win handily over rabidly-anti-gun Harley Rouda. He says that some of his colleagues that went to observe local polling places report massively long lines in towns and cities that normally would have had low turnout.

Those were mostly Democrats standing in line, not Republicans.

Luckily for the nation, the Blue Wave didn't occur thanks mainly to the red states stepping up.
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Those who didn't vote for Cox tonight because you're sour about Travis Allen losing. Those who didn't like Newsom and Cox so didn't vote for neither. Those who were just too lazy to vote. THUMBS DOWN. This was a uphill fight but it wasn't a landslide win for Newsom.

Dude, get a clue. Cox never had a chance. CA is the product of Hart-Celler. Escapees and spawn from ****hole countries have remade CA to resemble ****holes they fled.

Get real: no Republican has a prayer. It's worse for conservatives.

You might want to do a self-analysis to determine what actions of your life might have contributed to CA's ****hole status.
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Would have been nice if Cox campaigned gave speeches and rallies like Trump and put up TV ads. He did neither of them.

It's like he didn't want to win.

Worst candidate ever.
He was an empty sack brought in to soak up R votes. Allen had no serious funding or infrastructure, 0% chance of winning. The race was Villarigosa vs Newsom in the primary, after that went Newsoms way it was over. In CA (top 2 primaries) R’s need to be way smarter with their vote, many times it would be better to vote for the “less bad” D than the “won’t have a chance” R.
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Latest update from CA SOS, and Cox could not even carry Orange County... pathetic.
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Well, we thought we did. But we didn't. Not even close.
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Well, we thought we did. But we didn't. Not even close.
If Cox could not carry Orange county... no, never a chance. Face it, Republicans are toast in California.
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Cox had a chance to Governor of California. . . . yeah OK. Kind of like you have a chance of winning the lottery if you play. As stated above he couldn't win in Orange County for chrissakes!

Gotta' love single issue voters. The 1% will get you to willingly vote against your own economic self interests every time using 'wedge issues'. Anti-abortion folks, anti LGBT bigots, Gun rights zealots, Christian nationalists, you fall for it every time.

The only constant in life IS change. I am always happy about it, no. I'm a thirty plus year San Franciscan. Even I could not bring myself to vote for Gavin. I abstained from casting a vote for Governor. I couldn't vote for Gavin and I won't vote for another bigoted, fear mongering servant of the 1%.

As Bob Dylan once said; "The times they are a changin'."

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Cox had a chance to Governor of California. . . . yeah OK. Kind of like you have a chance of winning the lottery if you play. As stated above he couldn't win in Orange County for chrissakes!

Gotta' love single issue voters. The 1% will get you to willingly vote against your own economic self interests every time using 'wedge issues'. Anti-abortion folks, anti LGBT bigots, Gun rights zealots, Christian nationalists, you fall for it every time.

The only constant in life IS change. I am always happy about it, no. I'm a thirty plus year San Franciscan. Even I could not bring myself to vote for Gavin. I abstained from casting a vote for Governor. I couldn't vote for Gavin and I won't vote for another bigoted fear mongering servant of the 1%.

As Bob Dylan once said; "The times they are a changin'."
I'm a proud single issue voter. If a candidate doesn't support the 2A, he doesn't really support any of them. Then again, some of us view it correctly as a civil right, and not incorrectly as a hobby.
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^^^^THIS! Fuc#k all the gun owners who voted for a single democrat or who did not vote for Cox. THEY are the real enemy in our midst!!

There are probably many gun owners who are not single issue voters. Like many have stated it seems you've forgotten which state you live in. Think about how many people who have move hear from socialist countries.
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I have Democrat gun owner friends (and I'm not talking guys that own 1 gun, these are guys that have dozens of handguns, rifles, etc) that voted for Hillary in 2016 and Newsom this week. They get offended when I tried to pursuade them to Trump or Cox, they truly are sheep and don't follow logic, only what they're told.
Let me guess. No AR owners? Do they not realize where the anti-gun bills are coming from?
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Cox had a chance to Governor of California. . . . yeah OK. Kind of like you have a chance of winning the lottery if you play. As stated above he couldn't win in Orange County for chrissakes!

Gotta' love single issue voters. The 1% will get you to willingly vote against your own economic self interests every time using 'wedge issues'. Anti-abortion folks, anti LGBT bigots, Gun rights zealots, Christian nationalists, you fall for it every time.
We only had two choices to pick from. Are you suggesting that voting for Gavin would have been a vote for our economic self interests? And that Cox was the worse choice of the two for our economic self interests?

Yes, there were better candidates than either of them... in the primary. I voted for one of those better options. But all the better choices lost (because California is full of complete morons apparently), so we didn't get the option to vote for them in the main election.

Unfortunately, Cox more closely aligned with my beliefs in ALL areas than Gavin did. By a mile. It was by no means a "single issue" vote when I voted for him. I still don't like Cox, and I believe he was a shill or a sham or both, and only running for himself and not for us, but... so was Newsom.


In fact, largely there is one other party in CA (who happen to hold the majority in this state by a landslide) who consistently vote against their own interests EVERY TIME they get the chance to and for no reason other than it's the trendy thing to do, and because it's what their TV tells them to do, and because it makes for more popular twitter hashtags.
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so the reason this state is "controlled" by the Democrats is because 2/3 of the republicans in this state won't even go vote.
You're absolutely right.
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Old 11-26-2018, 8:22 PM
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There are probably many gun owners who are not single issue voters. Like many have stated it seems you've forgotten which state you live in. Think about how many people who have move hear from socialist countries.
That's probably why we have the gas still. They believe in excessive taxation by the state.

Their former Socialist countries control all means of production. It's no wonder businesses are leaving it's because of regulations that make it almost impossible to conduct business and very expensive BTW.
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If Cox could not carry Orange county... no, never a chance. Face it, Republicans are toast in California.
OC is blue now.
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I'm a proud single issue voter. If a candidate doesn't support the 2A, he doesn't really support any of them. Then again, some of us view it correctly as a civil right, and not incorrectly as a hobby.
Single issue voter here too. And I’m use to constantly losing in California. Been that way for the last 20 years I’ve voted. California is a real sh*thole.

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OC is blue now.
OC is now full of scumbag immigrants from countries that hate firearms and gun owners. They bring their gun hating culture and vote that way. California is a real sh*thole now.
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Republicans in California are about as popular as the Whig Party were in 1850.

There are more independents (decline to state) than republicans here.
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OC is blue now.
Too many halfwit soccer moms and brainwashed college students that responded to the "get out the vote" efforts of the blue team.
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