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Old 03-28-2020, 7:22 AM
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A shrimp peddler at the Chinese market where the coronavirus pandemic likely began has been identified as one of the first victims of the disease — and possibly “patient zero.”

The 57-year-old woman, identified by the Wall Street Journal as Wei Guixian, was the first person from the now-notorious Huanan market in Wuhan to test positive for the deadly bug.

She was at work Dec. 10 when she developed what she thought were cold symptoms, Chinese outlet The Paper reported. So she walked to a small local clinic for treatment and then went back to work — likely spreading the contagion.
https://nypost.com/2020/03/27/shrimp...-patient-zero/
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Old 03-28-2020, 7:35 AM
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A shrimp peddler? Out of all the insane stuff that is sold for food in that market, they try to hang this on a shrimp peddler?
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Old 03-28-2020, 7:37 AM
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A shrimp peddler? Out of all the insane stuff that is sold for food in that market, they try to hang this on a shrimp peddler?
She caught it from the stall for bats at her right or pangolins at her left?
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And first case goes back to late November
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And first case goes back to late November
I've read (don't remember where) November, maybe even late October.
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This is just a cover story made up by the Big Bat / Big Pangolin industrial complexes!
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the four bio-weapons labs in the area are just a coincidence
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Perfect storm and invincible soldiers.
Deadly virus and learned scientists and doctors to save us all. Brilliant actually. How can we question those who purportedly seek to save our lives? Somewhere, someone is smiling.

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I thought her name was Ah Chew?
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Old 03-28-2020, 8:53 AM
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In a few days it will be revealed by the Chinese that the shrimp peddler was an undercover US operative
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I've read (don't remember where) November, maybe even late October.
Per genetic analysis courtesy of https://nextstrain.org/ncov

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This phylogeny shows evolutionary relationships of hCoV-19 (or SARS-CoV-2) viruses from the ongoing novel coronavirus COVID-19 pandemic. This phylogeny shows an initial emergence in Wuhan, China, in Nov-Dec 2019 followed by sustained human-to-human transmission leading to sampled infections.

This shrimp vendor may have been a super-spreader who helped kick off the outbreak in Wuhan but they aren't likely to be patient zero. We'll almost certainly never identify patient zero given the ratio of asymptomic/mildly symptomatic to severe cases. There's at least an 80% chance whoever first contracted the virus didn't become significantly ill.
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I thought her name was Ah Chew?
Her full name is Ah Chew Ahn Yu.
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My guess, and I don't have any evidence to back it up, other than cheena continually lies, is this is just more cheeena propaganda.
Our MSM seems to love the cheena propaganda and continues to carry the water for them

https://americantruthtoday.com/polit...eally-obvious/
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The doctor that was trying to raise the alarm and later died
(sorry Chinese names don't just roll off the tongue for me)

Was doing so Dec. 1st & 2nd.

The only value to this article is in identifying the little Susan Rices running around.
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The doctor that was trying to raise the alarm and later died
(sorry Chinese names don't just roll off the tongue for me)

Was doing so Dec. 1st & 2nd.

The only value to this article is in identifying the little Susan Rices running around.
Dr. Li Wenliang sent the alarm message on 12/30. The cases didn't start clustering enough until late December for medical staff to notice it was unusual.
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/l...382-2/fulltext
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I thought her name was Ah Chew?
You guys have it wrong.

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According to Business Insider, Chinese officials pegged the first patient as a 55-year-old in Hubei (identity not released) who contracted the disease on Nov 17, 2019. Article was by Isaac Scher, March 13th.
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Dr. Li Wenliang sent the alarm message on 12/30. The cases didn't start clustering enough until late December for medical staff to notice it was unusual.
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/l...382-2/fulltext

There were 27 cases at that point.

Did the CCCP do all of it's suppression of Dr. Wenliangs findings and their punishments to him all in one day only to alert the WHO on next day themselves Capo?


https://www.devex.com/news/covid-19-...outbreak-96396
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There were 27 cases at that point.

Did the CCCP do all of it's suppression of Dr. Wenliangs findings and their punishments to him all in one day only to alert the WHO on next day themselves Capo?


https://www.devex.com/news/covid-19-...outbreak-96396
What part of Li's obituary are you finding difficult to believe?

They did indeed alert the WHO the next day however they also lied about there not being any evidence of person to person transmission. Chinese authorities didn't take him to task until days later, they were trying to hide the reality of how infectious and serious the disease was appearing to doctors encountering patients.

Here's a more focused timeline covering the Chinese response and the beginning of the outbreak.
https://www.nationalreview.com/the-m...astating-lies/

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This is great news that they found her. They might be able to determine if the disease morphed in her body or not. The theory is that the Covid-19 either developed in an animal which means it may come around again and again, or morphed in a human host, her(?)!
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What part of Li's obituary are you finding difficult to believe?

They did indeed alert the WHO the next day however they also lied about there not being any evidence of person to person transmission. Chinese authorities didn't take him to task until days later, they were trying to hide the reality of how infectious and serious the disease was appearing to doctors encountering patients.

Here's a more focused timeline covering the Chinese response and the beginning of the outbreak.
https://www.nationalreview.com/the-m...astating-lies/

Don't know that iv'e ever read an obituary for Li,

i do know iv'e never commented on one.....or even know what importance that would be.

I do know i would give no credence at all to that site with them speculating as if it were a fact the old snake ate bat or bat soup....whatever.....tale.

I also know that reports of Li first accounting on internet chat on Dec. 1st and 2nd are no where to be found.

Leaving the chronology @ 1st. case on Feb. 7th,
Li chatting online when there were 27 cases to 7 other people.....curious.
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Shrimpin' ain't easy.
Pangolinin' ain't either. "Let's eat some lizards and see what kind of virus can jump into us and kill the world!"
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