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Old 02-14-2020, 6:21 PM
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Default Receive mag-blocked mags from out of state?

Is it legal for someone out of state to mag-block standard capacity magazines, to 10 rounds, and then ship them into CA?

Does the mag blocker need to be permanently installed? What counts as permanent?

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Old 02-14-2020, 6:31 PM
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There are plenty of dealers that ship 10/x eg 10/30 pmags to California. I don't believe we have any guidance on 'permanent'. As some buying that seems to be defined by the seller. I've seen rivets to stop followers. Internal blocks and other methods. Sometimes they use epoxy to try and disable an attempt to remove the block, sometimes not. Most shops that install a limiter will tell you what they did do you can decided what type block you like. Some people don't like rivets or anything to show it's limited while other prefer it.

I've seen some shops sell a 10rd socom 458 with a stock follower. I believe those are just labeled for socom 458 and have no other modification.
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Old 02-14-2020, 6:43 PM
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Is it legal for someone out of state to mag-block standard capacity magazines, to 10 rounds, and then ship them into CA?
Yes.

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Does the mag blocker need to be permanently installed?
Yes.

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What counts as permanent?


If I hand it to you and you can take it apart and put it back together again as a standard capacity magazine in 10 seconds it probably wasn’t permanent.

If you dip the entire bottom inch of the magazine in epoxy then that’s probably permanent.

In between, who knows.
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Old 02-14-2020, 7:39 PM
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I think they had CADOJ regs which said to block them, and epoxy the base plate. That's what they considered to be permanently converted.
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Old 02-14-2020, 8:07 PM
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Epoxy the plate seems stupid then you can’t isassemble for cleaning or swapping plates. And what abou competition magwells and baseplate to make reloads work, you drop a mag in the mud or dirt you have to clean it up.

A lot of good intentions seems like a good permanent block to me.

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Old 02-14-2020, 8:25 PM
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Do FedEx and UPS allow you to ship magazines?
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Old 02-14-2020, 8:29 PM
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Do FedEx and UPS allow you to ship magazines?
They're just accessories, not firearms. They have no opinion as long as they aren't loaded. Even then, they'll ship ammo too.

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champu got it - if they're blocked, they're legal 10-round mags. Nobody knows what 'permanent' might mean: the DOJ tried to create regs, but withdrew them, so there is no 'legal definition'. We have not yet heard of a court case on the point - and most likely we wouldn't, since an easy 'cure' would be to surrender a few $100 worth of mags vs several $10K in legal fees - so we have no court guidance, either.
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