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Old 05-13-2019, 9:49 PM
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Default Airline carry-on prep items

I have been flying quiet a bit lately, mostly out on Thursday and back Sunday or Monday, and I usually only bring a carry-on. I have begun to think of items that I should be bringing, that I can carry on the airplane and that I will wear or will fit in a backpack (along with clothes & toiletries).

My list so far:

Wear -
comfortable hiking boots and clothes that I could hike 10 miles a day in.
Fischer Space pen military model
bic lighter
magnifying lens in wallet
quality watch


Pack -
Quality LED flashlight
Camel-back bladder with Sawyer mini (fill once through security)
Ham radio
Amazon Fire
Tablet with a library of "prepper" books/pamphlets
Vitamins & meds for twice the duration of my trip
An emery board (for sharpening a credit card)
charging adapters (AC&DC), cable, and rechargeable battery pack


Of course plenty of cash.

Any suggestions?

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Old 05-13-2019, 10:27 PM
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I don't think the lighter is allowed past TSA.

Otherwise, list looks good. I recommend a re-fillable water bottle.
Noise cancelling headphones are well worth it!
Pain killer.
Cold meds.
Hand sanitizer
A few snack bars, like Cliff bars or kind bars.
Tissues.
Hat
A light hoodie or other super comfortable outer layer.

I fly quite a bit so I always have these things.
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Old 05-13-2019, 10:31 PM
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Don't forget the TP!


Unless that's what the cash is for
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Old 05-13-2019, 10:41 PM
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I don't think the lighter is allowed past TSA.

Otherwise, list looks good. I recommend a re-fillable water bottle.
Noise cancelling headphones are well worth it!
Pain killer.
Cold meds.
Hand sanitizer
A few snack bars, like Cliff bars or kind bars.
Tissues.
Hat
A light hoodie or other super comfortable outer layer.

I fly quite a bit so I always have these things.
camelback is in place of a refillable water bottle. I do bring noise cancelling headphones (I normally also bring a backup pair). I bring asprin with my vitamins, wouldn't hurt to add ibuprofen. Kind bars are a great add. A hat is a good add too. As far as hoodie/outer layer goes I always bring seasonal attire.
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Old 05-13-2019, 10:42 PM
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Don't forget the TP!


Unless that's what the cash is for
A half roll tp in a ziplock bag is a great add, thanks.
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Disposable smoke hood - good for evacuating airplanes and hotels

https://www.safehomeproducts.com/shp...1280/1280.aspx

https://www.amazon.com/smoke-hood-es...ke+hood+escape

http://elmridgeprotection.com/

http://www.westernsafetystore.com/ase30.html - they note this is the replacement they carry for the EVAC-U8
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The ASE30 Fire Escape Hood is a substitute for the EVAC-U8 Smoke Hood which has been discontinued by its manufacturer, Brookdale International Systems. Testing revealed that the EVAC-U8 was not effective against Carbon Monoxide as claimed, causing the manufacturer to recall all of their smoke protective products.
I used to carry the EVAC-U8 (pre-911!) - still have 3 of them, unused (and expired, though I'm not especially worried about that).

ETA antacids, if you are subject to indigestion - my gosh, the airport stores charge a lot for those!
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Old 05-13-2019, 10:56 PM
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Costco double black diamond down blanket
Gum for ear popping
Wet wipes
Survivalcards- you may lose them. But I’ve gotten through security every time with them in my wallet-
Travel first aid kit with basics esp. upset stomach meds and allergy meds
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Old 05-13-2019, 11:55 PM
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I've never had a problem getting lighters through security. Post-9/11, but pre-body scanners, I used to take a polymer/nylon folding knife that would go through metal detectors. Never tried it with a scanner. In addition to some of the other suggestions, I would add some 550 cord, something to be used as a signal mirror, a few chemlights, and half a pencil with 10 feet or so of duct tape wrapped on it. Aside from that, there are all kinds of little things that could come in handy. A few safety pins pinned to your bag, rubber bands, etc. The trick is to be creative in packing the most utility into the least space and still be able to get it on the plane with you. My focus has always been on personal survival and improvised weapons.
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Old 05-14-2019, 7:29 AM
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I'm all for prepping, but with this list, ya'll will have maxed out your carry on space before you start packing clothing, shoes, toiletries.

You need to strike a balance between the likelihood you'll need something and the cost of carrying it.

The ham radio seems excessive. Same with the signal mirror. In the unlikely event that the plane goes down, your ham radio and the signal mirror are not going to shorten rescue time. A cell phone camera makes an excellent magnifying glass. If you need to start a fire after an emergency landing, there are easier ways to do it. (Signal flares, for example.)

Nix the folding knife. It'll get confiscated the first time you run into a sharp TSA agent. (Yes, they exist.) Take a pair of folding scissors. It does most of what a knife can do. The stuff it can't? Well, you're not taking down a team of hijackers with any folding knife you're going to regularly get past security.

Finally, there's a company that makes a fleece only geeks and preppers would love. ScottE Vest. It has a ton of pockets. A fleece doesn't count as a carry on, if everything fits in the pockets. So, you can use that to carry all of your prepping stuff. Take it even if you're leaving LA for a trip to New Orleans in August (hey, it's cold on the plane!).

If you need stuff on the other end of the trip, ship it there and ship it back. (Or check it, as I assumed that this thread is about carry on only.)

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From a survival perspective, you should pay attention to how you dress for airline travel. The recent Russian airline disaster where the plane caught fire, illustrates the need to dress with fire in mind. You should wear 100% long sleeve cotton shirt and pants since cotton is very flame resistive. Nylon based fabrics including synthetic fleece are very flammable and should not be worn during flight.

Think about what it would be like to have to dash past flames to get to safety. That's why it not good to fly wearing short pants, sandals or synthetic fabrics.

Sturdy shoes should be worn too. No flip flops or sandals which might slow you down if you need to run. I know you mentioned wearing hiking boots so that's a good choice.

A small travel size hairspray canister is an excellent legal carry-on self defense spray that works in place of pepper spray which you can't bring into the cabin.

Lots of good ideas here so far.
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Old 05-14-2019, 10:36 PM
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I'm all for prepping, but with this list, ya'll will have maxed out your carry on space before you start packing clothing, shoes, toiletries.

You need to strike a balance between the likelihood you'll need something and the cost of carrying it.

The ham radio seems excessive. Same with the signal mirror. In the unlikely event that the plane goes down, your ham radio and the signal mirror are not going to shorten rescue time. A cell phone camera makes an excellent magnifying glass. If you need to start a fire after an emergency landing, there are easier ways to do it. (Signal flares, for example.)

Nix the folding knife. It'll get confiscated the first time you run into a sharp TSA agent. (Yes, they exist.) Take a pair of folding scissors. It does most of what a knife can do. The stuff it can't? Well, you're not taking down a team of hijackers with any folding knife you're going to regularly get past security.

Finally, there's a company that makes a fleece only geeks and preppers would love. ScottE Vest. It has a ton of pockets. A fleece doesn't count as a carry on, if everything fits in the pockets. So, you can use that to carry all of your prepping stuff. Take it even if you're leaving LA for a trip to New Orleans in August (hey, it's cold on the plane!).

If you need stuff on the other end of the trip, ship it there and ship it back. (Or check it, as I assumed that this thread is about carry on only.)
I agree about the amount of stuff; my solution is simply to pack what I need for my trip first, and then fill the remaining space.

None of the stuff on here is really in case the plane crashes, more in case I need something while on the trip. The HAM radio is not for if the plane crashes on the way from LAX - Tulsa and I get stranded on a tropical island; but if I'm driving and need some local advice I can get it using the HAM radio. Also I like checking in on different repeaters while traveling.

I have seen the ScottE vest - seems like a lot of money for what it is. I wear cargo pants (yes cotton) and a long sleeve shirt and I'm able to fit everything I need.
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Old 05-15-2019, 12:25 PM
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My list now:

Wear -
comfortable hiking boots and (cotton) clothes that I could hike 10 miles a day in - long sleeve shirt & cargo pants.
Fischer Space pen military model
bic lighter
magnifying lens in wallet
quality watch
Gum


Pack -
Quality LED flashlight
Camel-back bladder with Sawyer mini (fill once through security)
Ham radio
Amazon Fire
Tablet with a library of "prepper" books/pamphlets & headphones
Vitamins & meds for twice the duration of my trip (+ asprin & Ibuprophin)
An emery board (for sharpening a credit card)
charging adapters (AC&DC), cable, and rechargeable battery pack
1/2 roll toilet paper in ziplock bag
travel pack of wet wipes
2 Kind bars
4 carabiners clipped to outside of bag
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Emory board for sharpening credit card...

canít you rub it on the sidewalk and achieve acceptable results?!
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