Los Angeles

[igs]

Originally Posted by aguynamedbryan

Particularly frustrating to know that we've been deemed OK to carry a concealed weapon and the only thing stopping us is bureaucracy, a plastic card, and a picture.

The two are directly related. If there's no need to be "deemed OK" then there is no need for bureaucracy, a plastic card, and a picture.

Being "deemed OK" is unconstitutional. So is bureaucracy, a plastic card, and a picture.

[CZebra]

Just got called to schedule pickup on 12/14. I believe the delay was caused by somebody's not looking at my email. I emailed again on September 28th and the confirmed receipt on the 29th. It's been a long haul for this one.

[pcolony]

I got called today to schedule pickup as well, total process will be about 18 months.

I was in a meeting and didn't pickup the first call, it came from "No Caller ID - unknown". He left a voice mail that he would call back. He called back 1 hour later.

06/28/2022 - Mailed in application to LASD
06/06/2023 - Received voice mail from LASD to schedule interview (I didn't notice for a few days)
06/12/2023 - Scheduled in-person interview
06/12/2023 - CA LiveScan completed
06/13/2023 - FBI LiveScan completed
06/18/2023 - Firearm LiveScan completed
06/26/2023 - Interview with LASD
08/15/2023 - Completed Zoom training
08/30/2023 - Completed in-person training
09/17/2023 - Proceed to training email received
09/17/2023 - Send training docs
11/15/2023 - LASD called to schedule pickup
12/14/2023 - Pickup

[SocalRaptor.]

Are we going to be held to SB2's new requirements if we already started the process? I'm still waiting for my Interview call.

[TheJohnnyB21]

Got my call yesterday to pick up! Here is my timeline for those that are interested.

Mailed Application - 6/28/22
Phone call - 6/6/23
Interview (In person) - 6/13/23
PTT email - 9/19/23
Approved Phone call - 11/15/23
Pick up date - 12/14/23

[aguynamedbryan]

Originally Posted by TheJohnnyB21

Got my call yesterday to pick up! Here is my timeline for those that are interested.

Mailed Application - 6/28/22
Phone call - 6/6/23
Interview (In person) - 6/13/23
PTT email - 9/19/23
Approved Phone call - 11/15/23
Pick up date - 12/14/23

Originally Posted by pcolony

I got called today to schedule pickup as well, total process will be about 18 months.

I was in a meeting and didn't pickup the first call, it came from "No Caller ID - unknown". He left a voice mail that he would call back. He called back 1 hour later.

06/28/2022 - Mailed in application to LASD
06/06/2023 - Received voice mail from LASD to schedule interview (I didn't notice for a few days)
06/12/2023 - Scheduled in-person interview
06/12/2023 - CA LiveScan completed
06/13/2023 - FBI LiveScan completed
06/18/2023 - Firearm LiveScan completed
06/26/2023 - Interview with LASD
08/15/2023 - Completed Zoom training
08/30/2023 - Completed in-person training
09/17/2023 - Proceed to training email received
09/17/2023 - Send training docs
11/15/2023 - LASD called to schedule pickup
12/14/2023 - Pickup

These guys must be mad at me and pushed my application lower in the pile... sent my training docs a few days before you both.

[GL30]

Mailed LASD app 16 months ago today.

[Ptgilbert]

Just received the call for pick-up on 12/20
18 months from the start.

[Ptgilbert]

Just received the call for pick-up on 12/20
18 months from the start.

[Steemax]

Really does look like they're working on a backlog of pickup calls now. This thread was radio silence for a while.

[igotyourcar]

Originally Posted by GL30

Mailed LASD app 16 months ago today.

I sent in my application 07/01/2022. I called recently because I had a missed call from "unknown." The deputy I spoke with was very nice, she let me know they didnt call but she did tell me the exact date my application was input and said I should be getting a call for interview soon. I wont hold my breath. If you feel up to it give them a call ask for the date your app was input and see what they say about timeframe.

[DProm]

Originally Posted by igotyourcar

I sent in my application 07/01/2022. I called recently because I had a missed call from "unknown." The deputy I spoke with was very nice, she let me know they didnt call but she did tell me the exact date my application was input and said I should be getting a call for interview soon. I wont hold my breath. If you feel up to it give them a call ask for the date your app was input and see what they say about timeframe.

I called earlier this week and got the same response of when my app was put into queue (11/29/22) and that they are still working on October's queue. Then the deputy went over my app to verify my email address and that it won't be long til I hear from them.

[S.A.]

Originally Posted by meanspartan

Well, it's finally getting close to that time. It's not set in stone yet, but we may be suing LASD over their unconstitutional wait times in the near future. We've given them over a year to get their house in order, but the waits are getting worse instead of better.

As such, we need some plaintiffs.

I am looking for three categories of people:

1. Those who applied a long time ago but haven't had even an interview yet.
2. Those who recently applied and are looking at a very long wait.
3. If anyone was denied for an arbitrary reason, we may include claims about that too.

I mean no offense by my next comment, but please only volunteer to be a plaintiff if you are a model citizen or close to it. We don't want a nasty surprise in which they argue in court that your wait is irrelevant because you'd be denied anyway because of X,Y, and Z in your past.

For those that do email me, include a few sentences about yourself and the facts of your application process so far. kmoros@michellawyers.com

Thanks!

Any new info with this possible lawsuit?

[Fat Old Guy]

Have faith my brothers. I finally picked up my card yesterday.

Fast and easy pickup. 10 minutes at the most.

Here is my timeline.

06/26/22 - Dropped App to Lomita Sheriff Station.
06/28/22 - Money order cashed.
04/18/23 - Received a call to schedule an interview.
04/29/23 - Live Scan initiated
05/01/23 - CCW interview completed.
04/29/23 - FBI Background completed.
05/16/23 - CA Background completed.
05/23/23 - Firearms Background completed.
08/17/23 - Received Email to proceed to Training
08/18/23 - Emailed Training Docs to LASD
10/17/23 - Got THE call to schedule pick-up.
11/15/23 - Picked up my CCW License

[MR 5.7]

right now im being held up by my proof of residency as my trash bill which i used last time i applied switched to being paid through my taxes. should have a new one this week but my interviewer deputy ROJAS is being very strict about it being 1 page bill and will not even accept an FFL registered to my home address. they will seem to take nothing other than listed no matter how official it is. and if you a good laugh the deputy doing my interview had no idea what a federal firearms license was or a certificate of eligibility i had to explain it just shows the level of competence going on in the ccw unit
applied 6/25/2022
interview 11/3/2023

[Steemax]

Originally Posted by MR 5.7

right now im being held up by my proof of residency as my trash bill which i used last time i applied switched to being paid through my taxes. should have a new one this week but my interviewer deputy ROJAS is being very strict about it being 1 page bill and will not even accept an FFL registered to my home address. they will seem to take nothing other than listed no matter how official it is. and if you a good laugh the deputy doing my interview had no idea what a federal firearms license was or a certificate of eligibility i had to explain it just shows the level of competence going on in the ccw unit
applied 6/25/2022
interview 11/3/2023

They must have just changed that requirement. Deputy Rojas did my interview as well and she was a pleasure speaking with. Did not come off strict or have any issues with what i provided, even provided her direct # if help is ever needed with the process and quickly responded to my email confirming receipt of everything.

I hope you can get all this squared away soon.

[MR 5.7]

i am unfortunatley having the complete opposite experience with her as she is being very strict to what is on the list and it being 1 page which is the only thing holding up my application. my only suggestion to people is make sure your proof of residency is updated so you dont end up with a pointless extra month wait.

[alexcue]

Originally Posted by Steemax

They must have just changed that requirement. Deputy Rojas did my interview as well and she was a pleasure speaking with. Did not come off strict or have any issues with what i provided, even provided her direct # if help is ever needed with the process and quickly responded to my email confirming receipt of everything.

I hope you can get all this squared away soon.

Ditto with her! She was great and even answered an email like at 10pm! sent an email at 6am and she answered me back at like 10am. The interview was smooth and not tense with her at all. Other than the time it's taken, they have been very responsive, once I got the interview done, which was all over the phone. Just waiting for the Call for Pickup date. Probably another month.

[Steemax]

Originally Posted by Steemax

You both had me intrigued and couldn't help myself. Called the unit yesterday around 3:30pm and the lady I spoke with said my file had been approved and she believes I should receive a call sometime this week.

I'm very, very skeptical to say the least.

My skepticism was warranted, no call this week. We?ll see what next week holds. I hope it?s not let?s issue a handful of cards and wait another month.

[pew_pew_69]

https://www.newsweek.com/vince-ricci...utrage-1844912

It is unfortunate to tell you all this, but Vince Ricci, the man who defended his family from robbers with his CCW at his front door in mid-city, had his CCW permit revoked for "yelling at officers" due to how he felt regarding the quality of the police work was being done. They are disarming an innocent man.

[Agassi4]

Originally Posted by DProm

I called earlier this week and got the same response of when my app was put into queue (11/29/22) and that they are still working on October's queue. Then the deputy went over my app to verify my email address and that it won't be long til I hear from them.

Also waiting for the interview. My application was submitted on 07/05/22 and the money order was cashed right away at Walnut SD station. I called CCW unit and was told that my app was entered into their system 10/22/22. Its more than 16 months now, still waiting for the call.



07/05/22 - App Submitted
08/04/23 - Live Scan completed
10/22/23 - Entered in CCW system
TBD - Interview

[gunowner80]

Is there a process for changing out a pistol before the CCW is issued? With the p365 on roster now I'd like to pick one up and use it as an option.

Would that require another live scan for firearms?

And lastly, is there a good online training option for LA?

Thanks all

[GL30]

Originally Posted by gunowner80

Is there a process for changing out a pistol before the CCW is issued? With the p365 on roster now I'd like to pick one up and use it as an option.

Would that require another live scan for firearms?

And lastly, is there a good online training option for LA?

Thanks all

Before your interview or at least before you submit your training documents, qualify with the new weapon. Add it to your training documents. Have the instructor sign-off on it. During the interview inform Deputy of the addition to your app. When the time comes to submit training docs...do so. Should be it.

[cjdesign]

In line with the other timelines… applied June 28, 2022. I missed a call to pick up last Thursday 10:30am. No caller id. They left a brief cryptic message and that they would call back later. Never called back. Do they only work on Thursday’s? Should I try to reach out. I work nights so I may be sleeping during the day and may miss another random call.

[Steemax]

Originally Posted by cjdesign

In line with the other timelines? applied June 28, 2022. I missed a call to pick up last Thursday 10:30am. No caller id. They left a brief cryptic message and that they would call back later. Never called back. Do they only work on Thursday?s? Should I try to reach out. I work nights so I may be sleeping during the day and may miss another random call.

So far i've seen Wednesdays and Thursdays but I would call them if I were you. I saw another member had a similar situation but they actually called him right back the same day so hopefully they haven't forgotten about you. Worth calling and asking.

[4SUPER9]

Probably a stupid question: has anybody had success changing out a firearm on their license without waiting for the renewal time? I have 3 firearms on imy CCW already. My principal is a Glock 19. I recently obtained a Glock 43 that is so much lighter and easier to carry. I have 18 months before my renewal.

[GL30]

Originally Posted by 4SUPER9

Probably a stupid question: has anybody had success changing out a firearm on their license without waiting for the renewal time? I have 3 firearms on imy CCW already. My principal is a Glock 19. I recently obtained a Glock 43 that is so much lighter and easier to carry. I have 18 months before my renewal.

That's a no-go with LASD.

[wbk]

https://youtu.be/Qog8rUENk80?si=IJ-3K2BjeCaxocC2

[Agassi4]

I got a call from Deputy Roxas last Wednesday, 11/22/23 for the interview. Basically, just going to the application I submitted. She mentioned that it will take 4-6 months more to complete the process. I aske her if I can proceed with the training. She didn't directly saying yes, as she explained that the training is good for only a year and if something comes up or there is a delay, then I have to go through the training again. Better to wait for the PTT email. But I might proceed on training when I get a chance as we are busy at work. She gave me her cellphone number to contact if I have question. It was a good conversation.



07/05/22 - App Submitted
08/04/23 - Live Scan completed
10/22/23 - Entered in CCW system
11/22/23 - Phone Interview
PTT Email - TBD

[Imist!]

Originally Posted by Agassi4

She mentioned that it will take 4-6 months more to complete the process..

Clearly applications are being slow-walked. My 2nd application (1st post Bruen),
was entered before yours. Still waiting for an interview.

[DolphinFan]

If it?s taking 18 months, and they are good for 2 years, it only slows the process.
Since the initial permit takes 18 months through the LASD, and 12+ months at the LAPD, and each have a backlog of thousands of people, I would encourage everyone to call your state senator and assembly members and ask them to relieve the burden on Law Enforcement, and to extend the validity of the permit to be aligned with other states and the DMV.
Permits can always be suspended or revoked within any time period.
2 years seems not to work in the system.

[LA123]

Wow these wait times have gotten really nuts

[Veecious]

June 13, 2022 mailed
Nov 29, 2023 pick up

[SocalRaptor.]

Originally Posted by Veecious

June 13, 2022 mailed
Nov 29, 2023 pick up

Congrats! You have 32 days to use your CCW. Thanks SB2!

[nuke_em]

Originally Posted by SocalRaptor.

Congrats! You have 32 days to use your CCW. Thanks SB2!

Can you expound on SB2?

[Steemax]

It almost feels like they're doing call for pickups one week out of the month only. I'm worried they'll call me while I'm traveling and am out of pocket for days at a time.

[igotyourcar]

Originally Posted by nuke_em

Can you expound on SB2?

There's a decent amount to unpack there. It changes requirements for obtaining a CCW as well as designating, basically everywhere, a sensitive place where you cant carry.

https://www.californiacarry.org/sb-2.html

[aguynamedbryan]

Originally Posted by Steemax

It almost feels like they're doing call for pickups one week out of the month only. I'm worried they'll call me while I'm traveling and am out of pocket for days at a time.

It's starting to look like this is the case, which is unfortunate and highly frustrating. It's almost like they are making efforts to speed up everybody that's newly applying at the expense of those of us who have already waited over a year to get to the finish line. I guess it makes sense from the standpoint of trying to get lawyers off your back, but man, I'm pretty fed up with this process.

The family and I were in Mojave, CA earlier this month which has turned into a real hell hole. We were pulling our RV through and needed to stop to feed our screaming baby, grab lunch and just try to collect ourselves and the kids to make the next stretch. It was hands down the. most. unsafe. I've ever felt, anywhere.

Needless to say we hustled out of there, but man, knowing that I was deprived of my ability to protect my family really got to me that day.

[DaveFJ80]

Geez. I have 2 missed calls in that past couple of weeks that came from an unknown number, and voicemails left saying it's Deputy somebody from LASD (couldn't make out the name) and to call him back to do my interview. Of course both times he doesn't leave a call back number and there's no caller ID.

I didn't purposely ignore the calls as he first called after 6pm one night and I was at the gym, and again while I was in a work meeting and couldn't take any calls.

I called the Sheriff's dept in my area and one in Montebello and they have no record of this. I originally mailed in my app & payment on 6/29/22 and just now received the calls almost 18 months later. It looks like I have to submit another application and pay another app fee to start this all over, and from the backlog I can probably expect another call in 2025

[Steemax]

Originally Posted by DaveFJ80

Geez. I have 2 missed calls in that past couple of weeks that came from an unknown number, and voicemails left saying it's Deputy somebody from LASD (couldn't make out the name) and to call him back to do my interview. Of course both times he doesn't leave a call back number and there's no caller ID.

I didn't purposely ignore the calls as he first called after 6pm one night and I was at the gym, and again while I was in a work meeting and couldn't take any calls.

I called the Sheriff's dept in my area and one in Montebello and they have no record of this. I originally mailed in my app & payment on 6/29/22 and just now received the calls almost 18 months later. It looks like I have to submit another application and pay another app fee to start this all over, and from the backlog I can probably expect another call in 2025

You need to call the CCW unit, not your local Sherrif's... call them now at (213) 229-3110 before they throw your app out.