Marlin 795 MEGATHREAD Part Deuce

[Grey1one]

Big 5 has them for $159.00 again, maybe they are using gasoline to make them these days.

[dooodstevenn]

turns out I was able to get out to the range today, here's my best at 50 yards benched with a bipod and prostaff scope and CCI mini mag

from the very bottom edge to the very top edge thats a hair under 1 inch

[Raptor3000]

Yesterday took my brand new 795 with tech sights to my indoor range, and happy to say that its crazy accurate and real fun with tech sights (stock ones are real crap). I had one FTF issue in around 100 rounds it may be ammo, was using Walmart Federal.

Glad i picked 795 instead of 10/22:-)

[Chaos47]

Originally Posted by Raptor3000

Yesterday took my brand new 795 with tech sights to my indoor range, and happy to say that its crazy accurate and real fun with tech sights (stock ones are real crap). I had one FTF issue in around 100 rounds it may be ammo, was using Walmart Federal.

Glad i picked 795 instead of 10/22:-)

Glad to hear this!!!

[xtian13]

Regarding the Tech Sights, I have had TWO ongoing issues that I'm hoping to get some feedback/suggestions on.

1) My rear sight creeps. Even after multiple attempts at re-installing with loctite, (blue) I still can't get the damn thing to stay on. At one point, I accidentally broke the screw that holds the rear sight to the rail. Tech Sights sent me the new re-designed assembly for free. (thumbsup for the great customer service)

I may take it out this weekend again after one more re-install to see if I can get it to hold. If it fails to hold, I will need to go back to the OEM sights or sell these things and mount a scope to it. (not really what I wanted to do though since this is my "learning" rifle and I really prefer the peep sights for this reason)

2) With my Tech Sights, I have always had to aim low and to the left. Even at 25-30 yards, I find myself aiming low and to the left to compensate. (this is not the case with the stock sights, which make nice groups from 25-30 yards.) Not really THAT big of a deal, but if I bring a friend out to shoot and they are a beginner, I don't want them miss out on the thrill of hearing .22 plinking just because my sights are off.

How can I either:

A) Install sights correctly so I don't have to compensate?
B) Adjust sights so I don't have to compensate? (or is this not possible)

[CharlesV]

I got my 60 and 795 but havent taken them out yet. I was happy to see swivel studs on the 795 but there were none on the 60 and thats where i want them. Does anyone know who in the Riverside/Corona region can install them? Ive talked to three gunsmiths and none yet will do it.

I checked them out well and both have gravelly actions. The 795 has a canted front sight but its only like 0.5mm and it didnt seem worth rejecting the gun. The 60 was spot on and has a very handsome stock, not like the ones i have previously seen on displays. The 795 stock feels both thin and short, 60 feels great. So its the 795 that will get the change later and if i need a gunsmith to adjust the barrel then ok too. It didnt hit me until later that tech sights would use the same mounting and be canted too, correct? Can the barrel be adjusted or was i wrong to not reject it?

Im waiting for UTG 3-12/40 scope and rings now. Just need a gunsmith somewhere for the studs.

[inbox485]

Originally Posted by xtian13

Regarding the Tech Sights, I have had TWO ongoing issues that I'm hoping to get some feedback/suggestions on.

1) My rear sight creeps. Even after multiple attempts at re-installing with loctite, (blue) I still can't get the damn thing to stay on. At one point, I accidentally broke the screw that holds the rear sight to the rail. Tech Sights sent me the new re-designed assembly for free. (thumbsup for the great customer service)

I may take it out this weekend again after one more re-install to see if I can get it to hold. If it fails to hold, I will need to go back to the OEM sights or sell these things and mount a scope to it. (not really what I wanted to do though since this is my "learning" rifle and I really prefer the peep sights for this reason)

2) With my Tech Sights, I have always had to aim low and to the left. Even at 25-30 yards, I find myself aiming low and to the left to compensate. (this is not the case with the stock sights, which make nice groups from 25-30 yards.) Not really THAT big of a deal, but if I bring a friend out to shoot and they are a beginner, I don't want them miss out on the thrill of hearing .22 plinking just because my sights are off.

How can I either:

A) Install sights correctly so I don't have to compensate?
B) Adjust sights so I don't have to compensate? (or is this not possible)

I have recent Tech Sights on 795's. Both 795's I own seem to be an endless fountain of crap QC issues, but the tech sights have been flawless. They are adjustable for both windage (left right), and elevation (up down). They are 5/8 MOA per click. That is 5/8" at 100 yards, 5/16" at 50 yards, and 5/32" at 25 yards. 22LR rifles are normally zero'd at 25 yards. The little piece of paper that comes with the sights explains how to adjust them.

I'm guessing you haven't been to an Appleseed event. You would be doing yourself a great service if you did: http://www.appleseedinfo.org/search-states.php

[elx144]

Originally Posted by xtian13

1) My rear sight creeps. Even after multiple attempts at re-installing with loctite, (blue) I still can't get the damn thing to stay on. At one point, I accidentally broke the screw that holds the rear sight to the rail. Tech Sights sent me the new re-designed assembly for free. (thumbsup for the great customer service)

I may take it out this weekend again after one more re-install to see if I can get it to hold. If it fails to hold, I will need to go back to the OEM sights or sell these things and mount a scope to it. (not really what I wanted to do though since this is my "learning" rifle and I really prefer the peep sights for this reason)

2) With my Tech Sights, I have always had to aim low and to the left. Even at 25-30 yards, I find myself aiming low and to the left to compensate. (this is not the case with the stock sights, which make nice groups from 25-30 yards.) Not really THAT big of a deal, but if I bring a friend out to shoot and they are a beginner, I don't want them miss out on the thrill of hearing .22 plinking just because my sights are off.

How can I either:

A) Install sights correctly so I don't have to compensate?
B) Adjust sights so I don't have to compensate? (or is this not possible)

I mounted my tech-sights all the way back and put blue loc-tite on the rail and the screw. I almost stripped the tightening screw. My screw driver slipped out and scraped some of the metal, but so far the sights haven't moved. The sight looks a little crooked depending on how you look at it, but it shoots straight.

You can adjust for windage, there's little lines on the back of the sight that should be centered. I used a crescent wrench to move the knob on the right side until the biggest line was in the center.

[Panchira!]

Well after our last range trip the 3 funky ejected casings I had made me scratch my head. Well I cleaned it and paid close attention to the bolt face. Low and behold packed with deposits! Just around the bolt face where the primer lip of the .22 sits! Scrapped it off there was a ton of deposits on it! We're going back out this weekend and well give it another shot! I have a half brick of n&i golden bullet (20 rounds or so). Well try them out then move back to federals. Although dirtier I have had ZERO issues with the federals!

[BakaLogic]

Hi all,

My 795 seems to be acting up. I first noticed it at Appleseed where it seemed to be misfiring occasionally. One of the instructors tried it and couldn't reproduce the issue and we thought it might be because the rifle was dirty. Also, there was no audible or felt reset of the trigger after releasing from firing, but I had it set up that way with the DIP trigger guard and made a mental note to adjust the screw when I got home.

I brought it home after Appleseed to clean the rifle and put a Boyd's stock on it. I also adjusted the over travel screw but noticed that at a certain point the trigger stopped before hitting the screw. If I removed the trigger guard from the rifle, the trigger traveled back fully.

Today when I went to shoot it, I was having problems where it wouldn't fire after I loaded it and hit the slide release. I found that if I wiggled the magazine back and forth, I could get it to fire. But by the end of the session even wiggling the magazine back and forth did not work. I had to manually remove the magazine and re-seat it before the weapon would fire. I did this for each round.

Any ideas on what might be happening? Should I just send in my rifle to Marlin and ask them to look at it? (I'd have to test it with the factory trigger and stock since I'd be sending it back with both.)

Despite my issues, I did get to shoot a couple rimfire challenge targets at 25 yards (resting my elbow on the bench, no rest per se). I know, I can't hit anything with my rifle. But considering before Appleseed I was having trouble hitting anywhere close to bull, I'm pretty happy.

[Chaos47]

So do you have just the DIP trigger guard or do you have a DIP trigger too?
It sounds as if you have the pretavel screw on the trigger set too high and needs to be backed off.

The wiggling of the magazine is moving the action back and forth and allowing the trigger and transferbar to work together.

Also are your stock screws tight? If they are too loose they will allow the action to move forward under the pressure of the trigger.

IMO but I doubt Marlin will do anything with it because its aftermarket parts.

Try it with the stock trigger and see what happens
Then try it with the DIP trigger screw backed off
Make sure your action screws are tight for both of these tests.

[BakaLogic]

Thanks Chaos47, PM sent.

Hopefully your suggestions work. I really love my Marlin.

Originally Posted by Chaos47

So do you have just the DIP trigger guard or do you have a DIP trigger too?
It sounds as if you have the pretavel screw on the trigger set too high and needs to be backed off.

The wiggling of the magazine is moving the action back and forth and allowing the trigger and transferbar to work together.

Also are your stock screws tight? If they are too loose they will allow the action to move forward under the pressure of the trigger.

IMO but I doubt Marlin will do anything with it because its aftermarket parts.

Try it with the stock trigger and see what happens
Then try it with the DIP trigger screw backed off
Make sure your action screws are tight for both of these tests.

[CharlesV]

Ok, I sent my 795 back to Marlin yesterday so they can deal with the badly installed front sight. My guess is that it needs a new barrel but we'll see.

I took the 60 to my gunsmith at The Shootist in Temecula and he installed swivel studs, sling, cleaned it and test fired it. He says its perfect, go enjoy it.

I got the UTG 3-12/40 scope and medium profile mount and can confirm this combination DOES NOT fit these guns. The hinge of the front scope cover cannot clear the barrel. Im off to get my 30-30 out of storage and see if its 3-9/32 will fit the medium mount of the 60. I also ordered the high profile mount but i dont want to use it if it means losing the cheek weld. If the 40mm will fit the 30-30 mounts then i'll trade scopes and thats it.

The gunsmith in Temecula refused to remove the trigger return spring and had this comment. He has been working on Marlin for 45 years and seldom saw any bad one where the owner had left it completely alone. The troubles start with modifications of assemblies. Well-intentioned owners and makers of mod parts can really screw it up and netizens talk mods with no personal liability. This isnt new news, just a reminder. Most complaints i ever hear from owners involve mods and here we are.

[roushstage2]

I was thinking it was scope covers that was keeping scopes from "fitting" with the medium mounts. Turn the cover around so the hinge is on top, or just take them off.

[Chaos47]

Originally Posted by CharlesV

Ok, I sent my 795 back to Marlin yesterday so they can deal with the badly installed front sight. My guess is that it needs a new barrel but we'll see.

I took the 60 to my gunsmith at The Shootist in Temecula and he installed swivel studs, sling, cleaned it and test fired it. He says its perfect, go enjoy it.

I got the UTG 3-12/40 scope and medium profile mount and can confirm this combination DOES NOT fit these guns. The hinge of the front scope cover cannot clear the barrel. Im off to get my 30-30 out of storage and see if its 3-9/32 will fit the medium mount of the 60. I also ordered the high profile mount but i dont want to use it if it means losing the cheek weld. If the 40mm will fit the 30-30 mounts then i'll trade scopes and thats it.

The gunsmith in Temecula refused to remove the trigger return spring and had this comment. He has been working on Marlin for 45 years and seldom saw any bad one where the owner had left it completely alone. The troubles start with modifications of assemblies. Well-intentioned owners and makers of mod parts can really screw it up and netizens talk mods with no personal liability. This isnt new news, just a reminder. Most complaints i ever hear from owners involve mods and here we are.

Charles of course a 40mm does not fit with scope caps on. You already knew 40mm was borderline why did you think it would fit with caps on?

Of course a gunsmith isn't going to remove the spring for you. He would be liable. Why didn't you do it yourself its 2 screws and 1 pin, it takes less then five minutes. I have done this mod and others to many 795's and none of them have had FTF's. I am only trying to help people do what they want. People always want lower trigger pulls this method costs nothing and works.

You are the first person to take issue with any of my advice.

Since you don't want to listen to anything I have to say you can stop posting in this "netizens" topic now.

[rkt88edmo]

Cmon now. Telling someone not to post here is a bit much.

That being said, I agree the criticism of the mounts and trigger job reply. This is a home tinkering gun. If had asked about caps when discussing the mounts you may have gotten better answers.

[inbox485]

Originally Posted by BakaLogic

Hi all,

My 795 seems to be acting up. I first noticed it at Appleseed where it seemed to be misfiring occasionally. One of the instructors tried it and couldn't reproduce the issue and we thought it might be because the rifle was dirty. Also, there was no audible or felt reset of the trigger after releasing from firing, but I had it set up that way with the DIP trigger guard and made a mental note to adjust the screw when I got home.

I brought it home after Appleseed to clean the rifle and put a Boyd's stock on it. I also adjusted the over travel screw but noticed that at a certain point the trigger stopped before hitting the screw. If I removed the trigger guard from the rifle, the trigger traveled back fully.

Today when I went to shoot it, I was having problems where it wouldn't fire after I loaded it and hit the slide release. I found that if I wiggled the magazine back and forth, I could get it to fire. But by the end of the session even wiggling the magazine back and forth did not work. I had to manually remove the magazine and re-seat it before the weapon would fire. I did this for each round.

Any ideas on what might be happening? Should I just send in my rifle to Marlin and ask them to look at it? (I'd have to test it with the factory trigger and stock since I'd be sending it back with both.)

Despite my issues, I did get to shoot a couple rimfire challenge targets at 25 yards (resting my elbow on the bench, no rest per se). I know, I can't hit anything with my rifle. But considering before Appleseed I was having trouble hitting anywhere close to bull, I'm pretty happy.

Check the pin that holds the hammer spring rod to the hammer. I've had two for two that were purchased recently that weren't peened properly and walked until they pinned the sear reset causing a dead trigger. I peened the pins and haven't had issues since.

[CharlesV]

Chaos arent you taking this a bit too hard? I was relaying the gunsmith comments, nothing more. About the scope, last thing you said on the topic was that we agreed it was borderline and that I should try and see because thats what people do here. Now you say of course it wont fit and that i dont listen to you. Oh?

Quote: You need to use your best judgement on what will fit and then just pull the trigger and order them and see if it works.

I cant turn the hinge around because scope adjustments are handled there. If I turn it around it will simply hit the other side of the barrel when i make adjustments. And Id rather not lose the cover if possible because it provides the gripping surface to turn the very tight bezel.

[roushstage2]

The scope covers slip off When you slide the cover off, there is still plenty of grip on the bezel to turn it. Man up and grip a little harder if you have to, lol. You want the bezel to be tight, or you are going to have crap adjustments.

[Panchira!]

As a follow up to the issues I had with the n&i golden bullets, seemed all my issues were caused by carbon around the bolt face by the primer ring. I love shooting the marlin! My god its a fricken tack driver! I want a basic scope now! But it's to damn fun shooting through tech sights shooting dime/quarter sized holes! Dip products worked awesome, tech sights, and Boyd's stock make this one heck of a fun shooter! I really want to get a marlin .22 bolt action now!

[Lead Waster]

Originally Posted by Chaos47

Lots of people love the Tech sights because they mimic US WW2 Battle Rifle sights. Because this is the style of shooting they teach at Appleseed many people recommend them for that reason.

I just shot the Appleseed with Marlin 795 equipped with tech sights. My conclusion is this

The Tech-Sights are great IF you have good vision. I shot more consistently with the tech sights BUT I could hardly see the small "simulated 400 yard" targets (about the size of a triangle made of 3 quarters, at 25 meters).

For silhouette and plinking, the tech sights are quite awesome.

I switched to a scope for the second day of Appleseed, which might have been a bad idea since I'd never used a scope before and the eye-relief and scope zero was all wrong. I shot way way worse with the scope than the tech sights BUT at least I could see the target. I will do the Appleseed again with a properly adjusted scope!

I don't regret the tech sight purchase, I will keep them to use for non-appleseed purposes (ie; teaching my kids to shoot on the 795 in about 6 years).

For target aquisition, iron sights can't be beat.

I would suggest tech sights for appleseed, if you can see a cluster of 3 or 4 quarters at 25 meters. For me, I couldn't tell if the front post was covering the target, or at 6 O'clock hold or anything. But then I have old eyes.

Oh, and the magazine release is a major bummer for appleseed. They have timed strings-of-fire where you must reload. I find that I have to reload my 795 with two hands, one hand to hold the rifle and keep the mag release/catch pushed up, and the other to pull out the magazine. Meanwhile, your support arm is slung up tight and you have to take your arm out of the sling to do this, or awkwardly pull the mag out. Just a thought...you should practice this before going to an appleseed.

Last but not least, if you have a Marlin 795 and you DON'T have a baby uplula mag-loader, you are doing yourself and your fingers a disservice. I think Marlin magazines are made of old razor blades!

[inbox485]

Originally Posted by Lead Waster

I just shot the Appleseed with Marlin 795 equipped with tech sights. My conclusion is this

The Tech-Sights are great IF you have good vision. I shot more consistently with the tech sights BUT I could hardly see the small "simulated 400 yard" targets (about the size of a triangle made of 3 quarters, at 25 meters).

For silhouette and plinking, the tech sights are quite awesome.

I switched to a scope for the second day of Appleseed, which might have been a bad idea since I'd never used a scope before and the eye-relief and scope zero was all wrong. I shot way way worse with the scope than the tech sights BUT at least I could see the target. I will do the Appleseed again with a properly adjusted scope!

I don't regret the tech sight purchase, I will keep them to use for non-appleseed purposes (ie; teaching my kids to shoot on the 795 in about 6 years).

For target aquisition, iron sights can't be beat.

I would suggest tech sights for appleseed, if you can see a cluster of 3 or 4 quarters at 25 meters. For me, I couldn't tell if the front post was covering the target, or at 6 O'clock hold or anything. But then I have old eyes.

Oh, and the magazine release is a major bummer for appleseed. They have timed strings-of-fire where you must reload. I find that I have to reload my 795 with two hands, one hand to hold the rifle and keep the mag release/catch pushed up, and the other to pull out the magazine. Meanwhile, your support arm is slung up tight and you have to take your arm out of the sling to do this, or awkwardly pull the mag out. Just a thought...you should practice this before going to an appleseed.

Last but not least, if you have a Marlin 795 and you DON'T have a baby uplula mag-loader, you are doing yourself and your fingers a disservice. I think Marlin magazines are made of old razor blades!

You have both now, so you can get that scope dialed in and do back to back comparison, but for me, even if my eyes are having a bad day, and all I can see of the target is a fuzzy area on paper slightly darker than the remaining paper, I can still make better hits with tech sights than with a scope. Also, practice the different positions, because I've found each position requires pretty different eye relief positions, so at best you get a compromise between three positions. And yes the mag release on the 795 sucks big time.

[LiveSideways]

New stock and and scope mount

[Lead Waster]

Yes, I marked the position of where the tech sight should sit, so swapping back to it should be easy.

I also ordered a Boyd's "Rimfire Hunter" stock, even though it costs about as much as the rifle itself! I've decided that this will be my "pet rifle" and one day my kids will own it.

I'm going to see if I can rig up something for the mag release. It seems to me if I could add something like a metal rocker that would push the mag release backwards, it would have the same effect as pushing the mag release upwards (it's just a bent piece of metal anyway). That way if you could squeeze the rocker towards the mag while pulling it out, it would be a one handed operation. But of course it the rocker interfered with the uplula ... forget it! LOL!


There MUST be a way to get that mag release to be one handed! (or at least drop the mags free...maybe a pound of lead attached to the bottom of the mag! Ha ha!)

[Lead Waster]

Oh yeah, I forgot to mention, near the end of the second day, I started getting more jamming and ftf on the 795. I had to take the gun off the line and run a bore snake through it, then shoot a bunch of break-free CLP into the action, and scrub it out with a paper towel wrapped around a chamber flag. (this was at about the 450 rounds fired count) For the next couple of strings of fire I didn't get anymore FTF. I hadn't cleaned it after the first day because my kids were having a sleep-over and they were in the living room (of my tiny house) and went to sleep about an hour after I got home, so it was lights off early. I barely had time to mount the scope (crappily) before having to pack it in for the night!

So keep your action clean, and bring something to clean it at the appleseed!

I think there was too much lube in the action and the powder fouling became "gunk" and caused the FTF.

[odslim]

Just a heads up on 795 magazines at big 5... (If there in stock).. Fortunately my local big 5 had two. I used this coupon to walk away with 2 magazines (last of there stock) for $31 out the door. Woohoo!

http://big5sportinggoods.com/special...on_google.html

[slicknickns]

Hell yeah odslim. I've had mixed results at Big 5, and always succes at Turner's, The Stockade or Fowler's when it comes to Marlin mags

[odslim]

Yeah, Big big 5 is a really a big hit or big miss so to say, I was just there browsing, and looking at there gun rack it reminded me about my 795, at that exact time the sales person was right there so I asked about the 795 magazine, with a little bit of shuffling around in the drawers, she saw two suprisingly...So I busted out the coupon on my phone, we both read it to make sure it qualified and sure enough it did, but one thing I was concerned about the coupon was if it had to be printed out, she asked for my phone enlarged the barcode and scanned it...I was WOW'ed, gotta love technology...I skipped my *** outta there...now I have 5 magazines, can never hav enough...I just ordered a double sided rifle butt stock casing holder, Im gonna convert it to hold the magazines..

[slicknickns]

That gives me encouragement man. The bright side of Big 5 are the people who work there, it's very, very different from a gun shop.

The stoner, the cute girl in school who doesn't give a damn about guns or soccer cleats but makes her day when you flirt with her. The 35 year old manager watching his life slip away and is a total dick. The gun nut and redneck. The 65 year old Asian woman. The hipster and another stoner.

[Chaos47]

Not that it matters too much to us in CA but it appears that Promag is coming out with a new 25 round magazine for the 795!
Hopefully these are better then the Shooters Ridge / Champion ones!

Interesting that they made it out of Zytel, that alone makes it sound more durable then the other ones.

No mention of them on Promags website but they are shown on Academy Sports website.
http://www.academy.com/webapp/wcs/st...azines&Ntk=All



Looks interesting..

[CharlesV]

Yes it may matter if they offer rebuild kits. Do they?

[hitman13]

Can't wait for them to come out!

[Chaos47]

Originally Posted by CharlesV

Yes it may matter if they offer rebuild kits. Do they?

So far the only place they have been spotted in the wild is in stores at Academy Sports. They are not even for sale on their website yet.

So no they do not offer rebuild kits.

Academy Sports is a (pretty decent) sporting goods chain in the south which IMO is a cross between Turners, and Sports Authority.



When they are more widely available odds are a CA friendly vendor will sell them as rebuilds.. Who knows if these new ones are even dissemble-able... I do see what looks to be one screw, so thats a good sign...

But what would you rebuild it from? Older Marlin 70HC mags? Who knows if any parts would interchange. The old HC mags are not even dissemble-able as far as I know without breaking open the plastic body.

Sure you could try to block it to 10 rounds but then what good would they be over standard factory magazines? Looks I guess.

[psygho]

Excuse me for mine bad english.. (native language is dutch)

I,m plannign to buy an marlin 795. But i have an few questions.
There where 2 in the shop. (both where new) One had the "normal" bolt handle, and sights.
I did not get the serial unfortunatly....


But one other one had the adjustible marlin sights.


Buthas not the "normal" bolt handle, but like this one:


The serial: 00186XXX

Is this an older model of the 795, or an new one ? or is is just manufacturer modified/updated) ? If i buy something i like the best model. Wich would be a smarter choice ??

Thnx in advance..

[ogarcia_02]

Got my 795 today at Dicks for 166 OTD, waiting to get it out so I can try it out.

[Chaos47]

Originally Posted by psygho

Excuse me for mine bad english.. (native language is dutch)

I,m plannign to buy an marlin 795. But i have an few questions.
There where 2 in the shop. (both where new) One had the "normal" bolt handle, and sights.
I did not get the serial unfortunatly....


But one other one had the adjustible marlin sights.


Buthas not the "normal" bolt handle, but like this one:


The serial: 00186XXX

Is this an older model of the 795, or an new one ? or is is just manufacturer modified/updated) ? If i buy something i like the best model. Wich would be a smarter choice ??

Thnx in advance..

Hi psygho,
Welcome to CALGUNS!
Your English is fine! So do not worry!

Unfortunately I do not know too much about the configurations that they sell outside the USA. I know that they do make some versions of models that are not sold in the USA and only out of country.

Did you actually see that they where both marked 795 on the barrel?
My guess would be that the one with the older style bolt handle and adjustable sights is actually a Marlin 70. Which is an older model of the 795.

In the USA (at least older Marlins) age can be figured out by subtracting the first two numbers from 100.
So in this case 00186XXX ignoring the 00 would seem to be made in 1982.
But again there is no telling if this formula carry's over to rifles outside USA.

New MM prefix Remington made Marlins do not fit the 100 - first 2 digits formula. And there is as of now no known formula for them.

So:
It could be a Marlin 70. (Or other older model)
It could just be a different variation made for outside the USA.
It could be a variation made for a certain Distributor.
It could have been modified by it's previous owner. (But you say its new..)

Did you happen to see if the one with the different handle and sights has the Last Shot Hold Open Lever? "LSHO"

It looks like this:


It extends out and below the trigger guard. Seen here near where the guard reads Open Bolt Close:


Older 70 do not have these. They are a very handy feature that locks the bolt back when the magazine is empty. You then just insert a full magazine press down on it and it releases the bolt loading a round.

I believe that there where a few late production years that the 70 did have the LSHO.

In closing, I would inspect them both if they both are new and they both have the last shot hold open and they are both the same price. I would go with the one with the different handle and sights. It is said that the older production rifles where made with more care. (I have 2 MM serial numbers and think they are perfect though..)

If the different one does not have the last shot hold open lever then I would go with the one that does. In my opinion this is a great feature. You can always upgrade your sights and change the bolt handle. You could not add the LSHO without a lot of work probably.

Hope this helps.
Let us know if you go back and look at them again to see if one is really a 70 and which one you decide on.
Let me know if there is anything else I can help with!

Originally Posted by ogarcia_02

Got my 795 today at Dicks for 166 OTD, waiting to get it out so I can try it out.

Congrats! Thats a good OTD price now adays

[psygho]

@chaos47:

Thnx for the quick information!

Yes, both does "last shot bolt is open".
Both has the "bolt open / bolt close" lever...
Both has the same magazines. Nickel plated 10 shots.


I DID NOT see , if they the both rifles had the markerd "795" on the barrel.
Simply did not pay attention for this.. (stupid me!)

Wil give the shop, an cal on next monday/tuesday. And wil ask to verify this.
Had emial them with the same question also... Nothing wrong with an "NOS" rifle, if the parts are the same, so i do not have an problem when it gets broken, and need repair / service....

Both are the same price 285€ (which is here an bargain!) Wish had lived in USA!

[Panchira!]

Originally Posted by Lead Waster

I think there was too much lube in the action and the powder fouling became "gunk" and caused the FTF.

This has happened to me when I got a bit crazy with the lube. I found my marlin to like a light lube on pretty much every thing. The bolt hates being soaked. But one thing I did is to polish everything. Yes it is a pain in the butt but worth it. Took some 4000 grit sand paper and polished up the bolt, dremel polished the mag well and feed ramp.

But as a side note I have noticed my DIP charging handle is getting beat up by ejected brass. So I'm now thinking that is what was causing my stove pipes! But still a blast to shoot!

[Chaos47]

So Promag has some more tricks up their sleeve...

DRUM MAGAZINES!



http://www.promagindustries.com/product-p/mar-a4.htm

Comes in 30, 55 and 70 round
Kinda pricey at 50, 99 and 110 bucks respectivly.
http://www.promagindustries.com/category-s/111.htm

drum magazine for the Marlin 795, chambered in .22lr. The magazine body is constructed of a smoke-tinted poly-carbonate material to enable visual confirmation of remaining ammo, and to ensure a long service life; plus, the magazine incorporates an internal round counter for a precise count of how many rounds remain in the drum. All components proudly made in the U.S.A.

Here's hoping they really made these work!

[psygho]

@chaos 47

Contacted the shop...
Both had marked 795 on the barrel...

He's guessing he had the new(est) model in the shop, and this was an older model.
He had nothing else new in box, Just the one i told about, (new in box) and the showroom model (which was also new)

He offerd me , because of the apperantly older model, to get an brand new one in box, direct from the factory distribution centre..

But noway! I'm keeping this one! I have the same terms of quarantee.. So if its not good or rubbish,or just explodes with the first round, i can always get the new(est) model

Thank you and i will post some pics, prob. next week thu /fri.