BODY ARMOR: The Good, The Bad, and the Ugly

[California_Deplorable]

Originally Posted by crufflers

I got that one too, hahah... don't have it yet. Yeah I think I'll leave the bungees off... the elastic is pretty decent retention. If they stretch out, I'll add them later. I'd rather build an upper or clean guns than tie knots and rig bungees or sew stuff.

Nice in MC Black... how do you like that drop pouch?

I love the dangler style drop pouches. I use them on all my setups. I just get the generic airsoft versions. I use them for medkits and ear plugs. Just dont put anything heavy in them or you will be sorry when it swings and hits you in the gut.

[crufflers]

Originally Posted by California_Deplorable

I love the dangler style drop pouches. I use them on all my setups. I just get the generic airsoft versions. I use them for medkits and ear plugs. Just dont put anything heavy in them or you will be sorry when it swings and hits you in the gut.

I tried to tie one bungee on that nice panel and it looked worse than a condor done in a sweat shop... open top works hahah. I’ll have to try a drop pouch or dump... where can I get that in Multicam?

[California_Deplorable]

Originally Posted by crufflers

I tried to tie one bungee on that nice panel and it looked worse than a condor done in a sweat shop... open top works hahah. I’ll have to try a drop pouch or dump... where can I get that in Multicam?

Fleabay.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/IDOGEAR-Tac...8-d25b2bc2458e

[crufflers]

Slicksters in stock anywhere ?

[DrjonesUSA]

Originally Posted by California_Deplorable

I love the dangler style drop pouches. I use them on all my setups. I just get the generic airsoft versions. I use them for medkits and ear plugs. Just dont put anything heavy in them or you will be sorry when it swings and hits you in the gut.

Do they get in the way at all when you squat / crouch, sit, etc?

[crufflers]

Originally Posted by DrjonesUSA

Only gripe about the slingster - that I don't have about the other slings - is you seem to have to really yank it backwards / away from your body / awkwardly in order to loosen it up.

I have mostly mil surplus or basic old style static two-point slings and a couple single point. Like on my mini-14 the sling adjusts where you want it and you never adjust it again - to sling a rifle on your back and sling-up/wrap around your arm to steady a off-hand shot. I have a couple Hunter slings where they are auto-retracting, spring loaded, but those wear out. I have one on my pump shotgun that doesn't retract anymore.

Now I have a few Slingsters.

They adjust fine for me with the plastic lever that's on the new ones as long as I support some of the rifle's weight with my strong hand (smooth and fast both ways). I just got a new tan one with my ADAPT front flap... need more QD swivels and a Magpul fisxed Carbine stock QD insert. Everything is hard to find right now.

[crufflers]

TAN Slingsters... just a few.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-Ferro-C....c100148.m2813

[crufflers]

Naked Slingsters... TAN and OD. I just grabbed a OD. Legit Kit is GTG.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-Ferro-C...QAAOSwq4tfSXmL

[crufflers]

Anyone try the LBT ultralight two-point sling?

EDIT: I tried one... nice alternative to the OOS Slingsters... For around $48 you get a few extras like HK CLIPS, and silencers. That's cool even though I didn't use the HK clips. Works different from a Slingster but still works and seems to be a lot more steel parts in the LBT.

[California_Deplorable]

Originally Posted by DrjonesUSA

Do they get in the way at all when you squat / crouch, sit, etc?

Not for me. I guess it depends on how low you wear your PC. I dont have any issues with it.

[AKSOG]

FYI I ordered a MC JPC 2.0 swimmers cut directly from Crye and it shipped within a few days

[Jaybird]

Also Haley Strategic restocked as well. Just in case anyone was shopping around.

[California_Deplorable]

LAPG level III Ceramic/HDPE plates back in stock.
https://lapolicegear.com/lapg-level3-plate.html

[Steve1968LS2]

Originally Posted by California_Deplorable

LAPG level III Ceramic/HDPE plates back in stock.
https://lapolicegear.com/lapg-level3-plate.html

Their LV4 only costs a few dollars more.. and is just a poundish heavier.. I got one for my son's carrier..

[crufflers]

Originally Posted by Steve1968LS2

Their LV4 only costs a few dollars more.. and is just a poundish heavier.. I got one for my son's carrier..

The Battle Steel LVl IV is only 5 pound eleven ounces. Nice construction, foam surround, good curve, relatively light.

[Steve1968LS2]

Originally Posted by crufflers

The Battle Steel LVl IV is only 5 pound eleven ounces. Nice construction, foam surround, good curve, relatively light.

The LAPG LV4 is ceramic and 6.5 lbs.. not much heavier..

Less chance of frag compared to steel? $120 and in stock...

https://lapolicegear.com/la-police-g...mor-plate.html

[crufflers]

Originally Posted by Steve1968LS2

The LAPG LV4 is ceramic and 6.5 lbs.. not much heavier..

Less chance of frag compared to steel? $120 and in stock...

https://lapolicegear.com/la-police-g...mor-plate.html

The Battle Steel Botach are ceramic too. Same composite materials as the LAPG AFAIK. Maybe weight is closer too who knows. Advertised weights are usually off. I've weighed four Battle Steel Ceramic/UHMWPE LEVEL FOUR and they are all 5 pound eleven ounce. I'd get the lighter ones.

[seanbo]

I'm late to the party, help me pick out some affordable level 4 armer and a plate carrier. Also what about a ballistic helmet?

Thanks

[California_Deplorable]

Originally Posted by seanbo

I'm late to the party, help me pick out some affordable level 4 armer and a plate carrier. Also what about a ballistic helmet?

Thanks

Battle Steel level 4 from Botach or LA Police Gear level 3 or level 4. Get whatever is in stock. Price is $100-$120 depending on coupon codes.

For plate carrier: Ferro Concepts Slickster is awesome but hard to find in stock and sells out quickly.

[DrjonesUSA]

Originally Posted by seanbo

I'm late to the party, help me pick out some affordable level 4 armer and a plate carrier. Also what about a ballistic helmet?

Thanks

No offense dude, but that's literally ALL that this thread is about is different brands, makes, models, links & prices to alllllll sorts of different armor....

I'm the last person to say "use the search" or similar; but can you at least read the thread?

[crufflers]

Can someone weigh the LAPG Level IV plate?

[L.A. Saiga]

i run ar500 3+ lightweight in spall bags but I just bought some plates and stuff from Botach
(who by the way shipped everything immediately and i got it 2 days later lol wow)
MrGunsngear and buffman youtube armor tests convinced me to try the battle steel level 4 plates and some of the soft 3a panels.
The battle steel soft 3a panels for $45 look good. they do not have any actual padding, though. I'd still run a trauma pad for sure.
Ive seen guys run 3a panels under plates but the soft 3a panels they do this with have a trauma pad sewn in.
I think you definitely need padding on the 'meat side'

[Buffman]

LAPG "buffman" is an 10% off code.
Level III: Level IIILevel IV: Level IV

Level IV 6lbs 4 oz. Level III 5lbs 3oz

[L.A. Saiga]

ive read many horror stories about Botach shipping but I made 3 orders over 2 weeks and each time i got the item 2-3 days later. sweet
These look interesting, too.
4 pound 3+plate for $129 jeez. -- i'd like to see this tested n see how it hold up vs a Hesco L210

[crufflers]

Originally Posted by L.A. Saiga

These look interesting, too.
4 pound 3+plate for $129 jeez.

1.4 pounds weight savings over LVL IV per plate... I guess that's worth it. 5 pounds 11 ounces for Level IV is pretty good IMHO.

[crufflers]

Originally Posted by Buffman

LAPG "buffman" is an 10% off code.
Level III: Level IIILevel IV: Level IV

Level IV 6lbs 4 oz. Level III 5lbs 3oz

Thanks!

[toiletfighter]

Hesco L210 restock at T-Rex Arms for anyone that’s interested.

https://www.trex-arms.com/store/Hesc...eat-Plate-Set/

[Sniper4370]

Originally Posted by toiletfighter

Hesco L210 restock at T-Rex Arms for anyone that’s interested.

https://www.trex-arms.com/store/Hesc...eat-Plate-Set/

Got the notification, sold out by the time I got home.

[seanbo]

Any codes for Botach?

[L.A. Saiga]

That Botach level 4 $99 plate did so well so I had to try their 3+ so i ordered a set for $129/ea just because they say 4.2lbs per plate..but This is the 3+ plate I received.
No complaints i guess (other than it being 5 lbs not 4.2) I Figure I can keep it my trunk for emergencies or loved ones. or take these to the desert and shoot them

[Psychbiker]

Originally Posted by crufflers

Can someone weigh the LAPG Level IV plate?

Be interested myself. For something that’s gonna be hung up more than ever used, be nice to know if it’s worth it.

Depending on the carrier I find, I might wear it for exercising for the added weight and maybe a pulling harness.

[crufflers]

Originally Posted by Psychbiker

Be interested myself. For something that’s gonna be hung up more than ever used, be nice to know if it’s worth it.

Depending on the carrier I find, I might wear it for exercising for the added weight and maybe a pulling harness.

Nah might as well get steel for exercise - more durable than ceramic.

Why get a level IV to hang up. Someone listed the weight at 6 pounds 4 ounces which makes the Battlesteel better IMHO - I have four Battlesteel Level IV and they are all 5 pounds eleven.

[Buffman]

Yes the LAPG is 6lbs 3oz give or take.

[Steve1968LS2]

Velocity Systems Special Thread $300 .. 6 lbs

https://www.optactical.com/vesyspthcepl.html

Tempting.. I have a set of Hesco III .. super lightweight and the both panels together are under 5 lbs.. Just not sure about my odds of being shot at with green tip.. maybe the better plan is not to be shot. ha! realisticaly the main threat in urban violence is handgun and run of the mill rifle ammo.. but there's nothing wrong with overpreparing I guess.

[Steve1968LS2]

Originally Posted by Buffman

Yes the LAPG is 6lbs 3oz give or take.

It's very thick though.. might be a tight fit in some carriers. I have one of the LVIVs in my son's carrier.

[crufflers]

FWIW, the Battle Steel Level IV is a perfect fit in the Slicksters. You have to work to get them in, and they don't move.

[mnichols]

Mutlican medium slickster restocked amongst others:

https://ferroconcepts.com/products/t...eid=c6f8e08850

[crufflers]

Originally Posted by mnichols

Mutlican medium slickster restocked amongst others:

https://ferroconcepts.com/products/t...eid=c6f8e08850

Thanks! Grabbed one. That was the only color in stock at 14:30

[crufflers]

Multicam Slingsters are still in-stock from the Wednesday re-stock.

https://ferroconcepts.com/collection...ant=1299261116

[crufflers]

A lot of people love to spend $100 or $200 or more on carriers, but will a cheap carrier work to hold plates in place relatively comfortably? YEAH. I have Condors and one of the $15.98 carriers from BOTACH. Guess what? The $15.98 carrier is comfortable and won't drop plates out the bottom. Actually it loads from the top and holds an 11x14" plate if you want. This one has a Level IIIA+ 11x14 in front and a IIIA+ 10x12 in back... feels balanced enough, light as hell and lots of adjustment. Just sharing. Everyone doesn't have $200 to spend on a carrier. WILL IT WORK? YEAH. Plate position is right on whether it is a 10x12 or a 11x14 (internal adjuster strap at bottom of each pocket you use with anything shorter than an 11x14). VERY durable material, stitching is good.

Is FERRO a lot cooler? Is it cool to buy USA? Of course.