Have an Old Winchester?

[TRAP55]

Originally Posted by VooDooV

I love these threads, And thanks Trap for your efforts its nice to see what others have and some of the histories.

I myself have
1873 44WCF octagonal S/N 20217B action and sadly the stock has another S/N G 347214

S/N 20217B made in 1876, with 11,826 made that year.
Interesting note, in the following year, only 477 were produced.
The stock was made in 1890.
Where on the stock is the serial number, and how was it applied?

[11011500a]

Win m1911 12ga shotgun #(a)136xx
Thank you

[TRAP55]

Originally Posted by 11011500a

Win m1911 12ga shotgun #(a)136xx
Thank you

Unfortunately, your Model 1911 was one model that was serialized, and no reliable records have been found as of yet.
All I have on it is, they were made between 1911 and 1925, with a total of 82,744 made.
My best WAG would be 1913-14

[TRAP55]

For Caststeel:
1906 s/n5476XX made 1919, with 66,670 made that year.

1897 s/n 896XX made about Nov 1899, with 26,232 made that year.

[psssniper]

Appreciate your help in this. I have a Model 1876 serial #1738X

[TRAP55]

Model 1876 serial #1738X made in 1881, 8506 made that year.
I should be bartering this info for vintage Winchester gun pron pics, but I'd just end up drooling all over my keyboard.
psssniper, what cal and do you shoot it?

[psssniper]

45-60 and it came with 200 rounds of Ten-X ammo and a set of RCBS dies. I bought it two years ago and no I have never fired it. It was professionally restored at some point in it's life and looks absolutely pristine although I would rather have had it in it's original condition, but hey when it popped up at a great price I snagged it. Firing some rounds thru this rifle is on my summer "to do" list for sure.

[VooDooV]

Oh thankyou, I owe you a 6 pack for that.
The serial is under the buttplate

Here you go trap, Minus a breach shot because it was all blurry and I already put it away.

[TRAP55]

Originally Posted by VooDooV

Oh thankyou, I owe you a 6 pack for that.
The serial is under the buttplate

Here you go trap, Minus a breach shot because it was all blurry and I already put it away.

A 6 pack "and" a keyboard cleaning!
That's in pretty good shape, I hope it gets "fed" on a regular basis. That serial under the buttplate, does it look like it was stamped? And are the numbers the same font and size as the ones on the tang?

psssniper, TWO YEARS!? Once you do shoot it, you'll never let it go that long again.
Cast boolits and Trail Boss powder, the 40/60 is a pleasure to shoot.

[cptnmatt]

How about grandpa's modle 94 in 30WCF (3030) serial # 972996.
Thanks ahead of time Matt

[TRAP55]

Originally Posted by cptnmatt

How about grandpa's modle 94 in 30WCF (3030) serial # 972996.
Thanks ahead of time Matt

Made 1919, with 13,333 made that year.

[TRAP55]

Originally Posted by brianinca

TRAP55, thanks for the link from the 97 discussion.

1897 Winchester takedown 12 ga 30" tube, full choke.

700,1XX

Regards,
Brian in CA

Brian, yours was made in the last part of 1918, with 32,350 made that year.

[Clipity]

TRAP55 what can you tell me about my Grampes 1897 SN 326479? I wish the internet was around before he passed, I have found information on a few of his guns that would have made him happy.

[TRAP55]

1897 SN 326479 was made mid 1906, with 42,645 made that year.

[VooDooV]

[QUOTE=TRAP55;8023151]A 6 pack "and" a keyboard cleaning!
That's in pretty good shape, I hope it gets "fed" on a regular basis. That serial under the buttplate, does it look like it was stamped? And are the numbers the same font and size as the ones on the tang?.QUOTE]

I fire it everytime Im out shooting, Also fun to watch others take a try and not expect the weight compared to other firearms.
The # under the buttplate is stamped but will have to get back to you on the font as it is put away at the moment.

[TRAP55]

[QUOTE=VooDooV;8026093]

Originally Posted by TRAP55

A 6 pack "and" a keyboard cleaning!
That's in pretty good shape, I hope it gets "fed" on a regular basis. That serial under the buttplate, does it look like it was stamped? And are the numbers the same font and size as the ones on the tang?.QUOTE]

I fire it everytime Im out shooting, Also fun to watch others take a try and not expect the weight compared to other firearms.
The # under the buttplate is stamped but will have to get back to you on the font as it is put away at the moment.

10-4.....Assembly code numbers are usually what's found stamped on the wood, the side of the lower tang, etc....but there's been a couple of rifles with the serial stamped in the tang area of the stock....looks factory, but trying to find out if it was, was it only a certain production run, etc.
So the info would help.

[IntoForever]

Did Winchester make the Sears .30-30? Any way to track the date on them?

[TRAP55]

Originally Posted by IntoForever

Did Winchester make the Sears .30-30? Any way to track the date on them?

Yes they did, and good question, I've never thought about the possibility if they were serialed different. Lets find out, got a serial number?

[11011500a]

Sear 54 was was a Win 94

[IntoForever]

Sears/Winchester .30-30, Ser. #20300

[Savage1892]

Got a date for an 1892 sn109xxx?
Or a 94 sn10620xx?

[psssniper]

Once you do shoot it, you'll never let it go that long again.

Trap
I've got a bunch of stuff I haven't had time to shoot yet but I imagine you're right about the 1876. I'll try and get some pics up nest week.

[TRAP55]

Originally Posted by Savage1892

Got a date for an 1892 sn109xxx?
Or a 94 sn10620xx?

1892 sn109xxx made early 1899, with 26655 made that year.

1894 sn10620xx made early in 1930, with 10521 made that year.

[TRAP55]

Originally Posted by IntoForever

Sears/Winchester .30-30, Ser. #20300

I got 1897 on that, so it would be safe to say, they were serial numbered different. I'll check with Bert and see what he has on that, and get back to you.

[Caststeel]

Thanks Trap. Here's another six of Fosters for ya'.

The 1906 was an uncle. From 1919 possibly his first gun. Likely from B's (a family name) Sporting Goods, Lynchberg, VA

The 1897 was Grandpa's. A mod. cyl supposedly for skeet. It's taken a good share of game birds. IIRC a wedding present. Musta worked with six kids. It got beautifully restored with a steel butt plate in Shreveport, LA, 1962.

[Caststeel]

Here's a more appropriate thank you, Trap. Will upgrade membership come Monday.

Thanks again.

[TRAP55]

You're welcome, and thanks for the story that goes with em.
We all, at one time or another have held an old gun, and thought "if this rifle could only talk". Well, some can, if you pass the history down with the gun. Write it down on a slip of paper, and stick it under the butt plate.

A good friend of mine inherited a 1897 Diamond Grade Trap 12ga when his grandfather passed. Thing kicked like a mule with light Trap loads in it! He had me pull it completely apart for a good cleaning, and oil down the stocks. When we pulled the buttpad off, there was a roll of old hunting licenses stuffed under it dating back to the 30's, all with his grandfathers name.
We carefully pulled them apart, and he has them displayed in a picture frame now. His grandfather had wrote down how many birds he took that year on each license. That shotgun must have had a million rounds through it!

[IntoForever]

That sounds off. Thanks for your help with this.

[the707kid]

TRAP55 this is a great service you are providing to the gun community. Thanks

I have an 1873 Winchester 44WCF with 24" octagon barrel SN#224123B. This gun was given to me by my father, he received it from his father in law, my mothers father, and my grandfather. The rifle has zero blue left it is in 95% or better internally and looks to have not been shot much. No major pitting on or in barrel the wood is dark and in great shape. I would love to get some info on this rifle.

Thanks James

[TRAP55]

James, your 1873 SN# 224123B was made late 1886, with 25,354 made that year.

[Clipity]

Originally Posted by TRAP55

1897 SN 326479 was made mid 1906, with 42,645 made that year.

Thanks mate!

[eightmd]

I have several Winchesters. If you could give me the dates I would appreciate it. Here they are:

Shotgun Model 12 - 635XXX
Shotgun Model 12 - 1960XXX
M1 Carbine - 1086XXX
95 carbine Lever action 30-40 Kraig - 425XXX
30-30 Model 94 - 2834XXX
22 calber pump 62A - 111XXX

[the707kid]

Originally Posted by TRAP55

James, your 1873 SN# 224123B was made late 1886, with 25,354 made that year.

Thanks so much

[TRAP55]

Originally Posted by eightmd

I have several Winchesters. If you could give me the dates I would appreciate it. Here they are:

Shotgun Model 12 - 635XXX Made late 1929, 42746 made that year

Shotgun Model 12 - 1960XXX Made late 1963, 25662 made that year

M1 Carbine - 1086XXX Made Sept 1942 - Feb 1944, I have no other info

95 carbine Lever action 30-40 Krag - 425XXX??? So few made the last 3 yrs of production, I need the whole serial on that one! 1931-33

30-30 Model 94 - 2834XXX 1963 ended about serial number 2,600,300, SN 3,000,000 was assembled in 1970

22 caliber pump 62A - 111XXX Made 1940, 18501 made that year

[Clipity]

Originally Posted by TRAP55

You're welcome, and thanks for the story that goes with em.
We all, at one time or another have held an old gun, and thought "if this rifle could only talk". Well, some can, if you pass the history down with the gun. Write it down on a slip of paper, and stick it under the butt plate.

Great advice! I wish I had been older and paid more attention to my Grampees stories. My Mother & Brother have some stories for some of the guns he owned and my Father did a bit of hunting with him before he quit hunting. One gun he owned was a gift from an Uncle in Missouri that had been used during the Civil War .

[RangemasterP226]

My Winchester 1894 is S/N: 260410

I thinks its very old. Thanks!

[winnre]

I'd so love an old Winchester but when I go to the gun show I have no idea about the values and I don't want to be ripped off.

[TRAP55]

Originally Posted by RangemasterP226

My Winchester 1894 is S/N: 260410

I thinks its very old. Thanks!

Made the first quarter of 1905, 41924 made that year. That's older than me!

[TRAP55]

Originally Posted by winnre

I'd so love an old Winchester but when I go to the gun show I have no idea about the values and I don't want to be ripped off.

winnre, if you've never been to the Big Reno Show, you have to go at least once. It's a candy store of vintage Winchesters. Bert Hartman is there for the spring and fall shows, I'll hook you up with him.
By the time you get to walk through the door, he's already been there for a day inventorying every Winchester in the building. All you have to do is, tell him what you're looking for, what you have to spend. Then keep up with him, he's worse than a coon hound on scent.
Once you find one you can't live without, he'll verbally beat the seller down to a lower price like he was the one buying it!
I hooked Croweman08 with Bert about a year ago, he had Winchester info overload in about 30 minutes. Bert helped him make a nice score on a rifle at the last show.

[winnre]

Sweet! Thanks, I'll be watching for more info!