CCI Standard Primers 1000 Pak

[Garand Hunter]

In my email today Natchez Shooters Supply shows CCI small rifle primers 1000 paks for $ 89.99 in stock, for how long ?

www.natchezss.com this company is in Tennessee.

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[JackEllis]

My guess is, they'll be available at that price until the price comes down again. It seems like supply is finally catching up with demand, although without competition from Russian-made primers, prices are unlikely to reach historic lows.

[FLIGHT762]

If you're going to pay that price, even better, they have Remington 7 1/2, S/R primers @ $80.99 per K. Much better primer than the CCI 400.

[Garand Hunter]

I haven't reloaded for some years, just passing through the info. The shipping costs may be higher to Cali. When I did reload, CCI always worked OK.

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[middleofnowhere]

Thanks for sharing Garand.
It’s good to see primers available. Unfortunately with demand and inflation, I don’t think we will ever see prices come down to where they were.

[bigbossman]

Originally Posted by FLIGHT762

If you're going to pay that price, even better, they have Remington 7 1/2, S/R primers @ $80.99 per K. Much better primer than the CCI 400.

Just curious...what makes them much better?

[FLIGHT762]

Originally Posted by bigbossman

Just curious...what makes them much better?

Remington 7-1/2's have a 025" primer cup thickness compared to the CCI 400 @ .020". Handles higher pressure and are great in gas guns. This primer was recommended by White Oak barrels for reloading.

It compares to the CCI 450 and 41 and Federal AR primer, which are also .025" primer cup thickness.

When I buy for my gas guns, I buy the .025" cup primers.

[bigbossman]

Thanks for the explanation!

[BrassCase]

Originally Posted by FLIGHT762

Remington 7-1/2's have a 025" primer cup thickness compared to the CCI 400 @ .020". Handles higher pressure and are great in gas guns. This primer was recommended by White Oak barrels for reloading.

It compares to the CCI 450 and 41 and Federal AR primer, which are also .025" primer cup thickness.

When I buy for my gas guns, I buy the .025" cup primers.

Good info thanks.

While we're on the subject, why are Federal primers more sensitive and where do Winchester primers sit in all this?

[FLIGHT762]

Both Federal and Winchester standard S/R primers have a .020" primer cup. I can use both of them for 9MM primers in my Glock. They will go off reliably in the Glock.

When I tested Remington 7-1/2's in the 9MM for the Glock, they would not reliably go off, 70% + misfires. Cup is too thick for a Pistol.

Winchester is now producing #41 primers for 5.56 ammo since they are now running the Lake City ammunition plant.

[bigbossman]

Originally Posted by FLIGHT762

Both Federal and Winchester standard S/R primers have a .020" primer cup. I can use both of them for 9MM primers in my Glock. They will go off reliably in the Glock.

Interesting......

Anecdotally, I've been using Winchester primers pretty much exclusively since I started reloading in the mid-90's....... to include countless 1,000's of rounds of .308 and 30-06 fired through various M1A's and Garands. I have never had an issue with the .20" primer cup in those semi-auto rifles, so I'm not sure how much difference that extra .005" will make - at least in my applications.

[FLIGHT762]

It's not an issue in the L/R primers since their cup thickness is: .027". This pertains to S/R primers that have two thicknesses, depending on Mfg.

When you get up to max. pressures in the S/R primers, the .025" cups will handle pressure better than the .020" cups.

When guys are loading S/R sized primer pocket brass in what are normally the large rifle cases like 308 Palma brass and a few others used in long range comp ammo, they prefer the .025" S/R primer cupped primers because they will hold up better in higher pressures.

You can see a chart here:
https://www.accurateshooter.com/tech...sure-analysis/

[BrassCase]

That answers a couple of issues I've seen with my Valkyrie and 6.5 Cr brass using srp, using CCI or Win I can blow them out.

[smoothy8500]

Originally Posted by bigbossman

...been using Winchester primers pretty much exclusively since I started reloading in the mid-90's....... to include countless 1,000's of rounds of .308 and 30-06 fired through various M1A's and Garands.

I'm surprised you didn't have issues with leaking LR primers in the early 2000s

[wa1911]

Target Sports USA have CCI small pistol #500 $85/1000.
Winchester $83/1000
Federal Premium Gold Medal $105/1000

They 've been there before X-mas !

[browndude]

Almost hit the buy on Natchez for 2 bottles of powder and 1k spp, 1k lrp. 20 tax, 20 shipping, 20 hazmat fee. I'm gonna await a little longer.

[Tommy Gun]

With it being so unknown what the future holds, I'm noticing each site has been increasing prices on powder. Primers are what they are but even BR primers are way beyond ridiculous, 170 per k.

I just purchased 6k primers from Natchez, 1 5 1/2 for Pistol Mag, 2k CCI LR and 3k CCI SR. Right now only good spot to get powder is still Powder Vally with Grafs and Midsouth right behind. Midway, Brownells, Hodgen, etc are all in the 280 range for regular powders and 300+ for the elite powders.

Grafs has Winchester 41s in a 5k pack right now for like 440, fyi.