Get me out of analysis paralysis!

[ummagawd]

I caught COVID recently which put me into isolation with a lot of time to figure out my next hobby. I’m thinking about getting back into shooting guns and have spent the last 8 days researching and watching youtube. I’m now at that point where I’m itching to make a decision and can’t make a decision because I’m information overloaded lol.

My quick background:
I used to shoot IPSC with a g35 and cz75 TS in 40. I used to reload and all that, but no longer have my reloading equipment. I also have an ar in 556, as well as 22lr.

My goal is to shoot action style (really anything other than indoor single lane), as cheap as possible (hence rimfire). Maybe (big maybe) I’ll go as far as shooting center fire again, but if I did it would be PCC because that idea excites me. I don’t think I care to compete and place, I more just want to have fun.

So my idea was to try shooting steel, and even get my wife into it (another reason for rimfire). I’ve been back and forth on picking up a gsg 1911-22 and a buck mark contour. I am a tinkerer so either gun would get modded/upgraded.

Aside from hearing your thoughts on one gun over the other, are there any other types of matches I should look at? I also briefly looked into precision rifle shooting with a tikka t1x, but I couldn’t find anywhere close enough to where I live (Orange County).

[California_Deplorable]

Some clubs will let you shoot IDPA matches with rimfire guns. I went to a friendly match where members were shooting rimfire to save on ammo. It was really fun. They were using Rugers and there were lot reliability issues.

Find a club and match on practiscore and email them to ask if they allow rimfire.
https://practiscore.com/

[ummagawd]

Fantastic! Looks like my old club is still running (Prado). Thank you for the website.

Would be sweet if I can run my ar22.

Now... what 22 pistol? What’s fun and satisfying to shoot?

[thegiff]

We run NRL-22 at WEGC on the 4th Sunday of the month.

[Mayor McRifle]

You can use your .22 rifle for Steel Challenge, but you might want to get a 10/22 so you can upgrade it as you go. If I were you, I would also get a Buck Mark. That would allow you to shoot two guns in the same match, or you could let your wife shoot one while you shoot the other. You won’t need a holster or anything, just 5 or 6 magazines for each.

If you want to get back into USPSA, you’ll need either a centerfire pistol or a PCC, plus a gun belt, holster, and mag pouches. What pistols do you have?

[ummagawd]

WEGC isn’t too far! Thanks for the heads up. @thegiff

I just signed up for a practicescore account, thanks @california. It looks like Prado is still running matches. That’s where I did IPSC over a decade ago.

@mayor I have a g35 (and a 9mm conversion barrel), and a cz 75 TS in 40sw. And I actually still my holster/belt/etc. I even have maybe 400 rounds of my 40 reloads. Def not a lot, but I have a couple thousand rounds of 22lr... another reason why I want to get back into this on rimfire

[Mayor McRifle]

Originally Posted by ummagawd

WEGC isn’t too far! Thanks for the heads up. @thegiff

I just signed up for a practicescore account, thanks @california. It looks like Prado is still running matches. That’s where I did IPSC over a decade ago.

@mayor I have a g35 (and a 9mm conversion barrel), and a cz 75 TS in 40sw. And I actually still my holster/belt/etc. I even have maybe 400 rounds of my 40 reloads. Def not a lot, but I have a couple thousand rounds of 22lr... another reason why I want to get back into this on rimfire

Just shoot what you have at first. Then you can decide where to go from there. You’ll get a lot of ideas about what might work for you when you see what other people are doing. You’ll have a blast shooting Steel Challenge. That would be a great place to start.

[FNGGlock]

For steel challenge I use a Buck Mark (base model Camper) and a 10/22 take down. The 10/22 already has a red dot, and I just added one to the BM.
Most guys I see run very modified 10/22s and I have seen quite a few MP15-22s as well (interesting option to consider). On the pistol side Rugers and other pistols are a lot more common than Buck Marks . This all for rimfire.

The 10/22 is a great starting point as you can build it up as much as you like. The BM may not be the best choice if you plan to really build it out, etc. Some of the more experienced rimfire guys have moved to other platforms for pistol.

[ummagawd]

I def plan to use my ar22. It’s a CMMG complete rifle (not a conversion kit) and actually quite reliable with the only issues being FTF ammo. I suspect it’ll be too heavy as I wanted it to look tacticool. But that’ll be easy enough to switch up later down the road.

But I do want to pickup a rimfire pistol. Something my wife can shoot to see if she’s into it and also gives me an excuse to buy another gun lol.

I like the idea of the 1911 because it’s similar to my TS and I like the way it looks. It seems that there’s a lot of aftermarket for it as well. And I also like the idea of the buckmark after seeing the buckmark porn thread in this forum (it looks like there’s plenty of aftermarket for it as well).

[pinger]

The Buckmark is definitely the best speed steel pistol value that is on roster. The Contour model makes it easy to mount a red dot but there are aftermarket red dot mounts for any other model. The good part about the Buckmark is the barrel and sights (including the red dot) are fixed which helps a lot with accuracy. There are three grip profiles, UDX URX and Camper. The grips are specific to each profile. Online you can buy replacement barrels, both Browning and aftermarket, which are easy to change.

The Ruger Mk guns are very good but there is a high off-roster tax and the barrels are are serialized so changing barrels means a whole new gun.

The GSG 1911s are great for what they are but will never be as accurate as a gun with a fixed barrel and sight like the Buckmark. Also mounting a red dot is not easy.

[FNGGlock]

Originally Posted by ummagawd

I def plan to use my ar22. It’s a CMMG complete rifle (not a conversion kit) and actually quite reliable with the only issues being FTF ammo. I suspect it’ll be too heavy as I wanted it to look tacticool. But that’ll be easy enough to switch up later down the road.

But I do want to pickup a rimfire pistol. Something my wife can shoot to see if she’s into it and also gives me an excuse to buy another gun lol.

I like the idea of the 1911 because it’s similar to my TS and I like the way it looks. It seems that there’s a lot of aftermarket for it as well. And I also like the idea of the buckmark after seeing the buckmark porn thread in this forum (it looks like there’s plenty of aftermarket for it as well).

That's why the MP15-22 is a good idea, low weight. If I get ore serious about rimfire rifle for steel challenge, I may seriously consider a MP15-22 - light and easy to maintain - the 10/22 is a bit of a pain to disassemble for a proper cleaning and you do tend to run a lot of rounds with practice and a comp through a gun.

The cheapest Buck Mark may be the way to go, as you will probably end up swapping a lot of element on it anyway. I got the cheapest Camper model and swapped the top strap to fit an optic - the Outer Impact top strap is nice as you can mount a variety of red dots pretty low on it. You do loose the iron sights (but shouldn't matter). Red dots definitely do help, especially if you don't have great/young eyes.

[ummagawd]

I think I def want to go with a red dot. I only shot iron sights when I did IPSC way back. And after shooting my AR22 with a red dot, I find it way funner.

It sounds like I should go down the buck mark path. Thanks for the info.

With the grip profiles on the BM, is it important I find the grip I like? Of is that something that can be changed with aftermarket?

Let me throw a wrench into the mix here... what if I get the advantage arms kit for my G35? I ran one on my g19 (my very first gun) but had a lot of reliability issues. Granted this was like late 2000's, I didn't really know a whole lot about different 22 ammo. Have those conversion kits gotten considerably better?

[AR22]

too much thinking

[navydad2010]

Apple Valley GC has a 2 gun Rimfire match, 3rd Saturday, super well run and very much fun!!

Ive run 10/22 and MkIII, Buckmark and AR CMMG conversion even seen guys do lever guns and revolvers..all fun!!

I just bought a Browning 1911-22 to play in this event.

[pinger]

For Buckmark grip profiles, start with the one that fits the best then fine tune if needed. To me the UDX seems the smallest and Camper the largest with URX in the middle. Modding the Buckmark with the flat face Tandemkross trigger increases the length of pull significantly. Something to keep in mind.

[DArBad]

Browning Buck Mark Contour URX (with 5.5 inch barrel) or Browning Buck Mark Lite Gray URX (with 7 and 1/4 inch barrel).

Lok Grips have replacement grips for the UDX, URX, and UFX the last time I browsed their website.

[AR22]

Sad you are limited so much from the Roster..Most I own and would suggest are probably prohibited out there..

But if the CMMG AR platform is what you have, use that..

But I can and hear by do, by the powers vested in me, absolve you from all Analysis Paralyses from this day forward..You can go easy from this point out...Your Welcome

[crufflers]

If you wanted to add a PCC you could look at Stern 9mm uppers with Glock mag well insert and the Ruger PC Carbine.

[Jonathanseal]

Originally Posted by thegiff

We run NRL-22 at WEGC on the 4th Sunday of the month.

Where is WEGC?I notice you live in Elsinore. I am in Temecula. Thank you, Jonathan Seal (909)262.6476