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Holy Father, thwart the plans of evil doers tomorrow. Don't let them succeed as in the past. Let the true voice be heard and be counted. Let the secular and passive chistians see clearly what party is more destructive that's creating all these demonic policies and in turn making america like a third world country and maybe towards 5th world country if unchanged.
Strengthen and protect the poll workers and watchers from demonic individuals. Please restore our once Godly nation and let the enemies be outnumbered at the poll. In the name of our Lord Jesus and our only Savior, Amen.
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November 8, 2022 Election day prayer.
Heavenly Father, we thank you and praise you for our country. Please thwart the evil plans and expose the evil deeds of men so that they will not escape justice. Rescue from destruction the innocent, the helpless, the unwary, and the unsaved. Protect those facing persecution, blessing and shielding them. Soften the hearts of their persecutors, lifting the veil, so that they will recognize their sin, repent, and put their faith in Jesus Christ as savior. Father we pray that you would give us politicians who have clarity, integrity, and passion for what is right. Give them great intelligence to solve problems, but please give them great strength of character, to stay away from anything corrupt or sinful as well. Bless all who love us and all whom we love. Shelter them in the shadow of Your wings. Bless and protect Donald Trump, all of his supporters and allies, all lawmakers who uphold Biblical principles, law-keepers in all branches of the military and in all law enforcement agencies - especially those departments which are under attack - all who are tasked with ending corruption by bringing the truth to light, and ALL of their families, working your good and perfect will in their lives this day enabling them to become the servants you want them to be, so that with wisdom and discernment they will lead spiritually fruitful, spiritually productive lives, and as happy, healthy, and long as you have appointed with Your good and perfect will, free from malevolent interference. Protect us from a slow agonizing destruction we pray. In Jesus’ name, Amen.
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The Calguns prayer warriors have been on the front line for two weeks now. Tonight, the victory belongs to The Lord.
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Yes! and Amen, brothers and sisters. God's will shall prevail.
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Father God, thank you putting conservative officials in places where they are needed. Thank you also for making some red states more red.
This election, You have revealed the soul of this nation. We are truly divided and the demonic policies are not going away but will continue as we are nearing the return of our Lord Jesus. Thank you for reminding us of this verse. Revelation 22:11-12 kjv 11 He that is unjust, let him be unjust still: and he which is filthy, let him be filthy still: and he that is righteous, let him be righteous still: and he that is holy, let him be holy still. 12 And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be. Come quickly Lord, Amen.
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If you haven't already, pray for all of those elected. Yes, even those you didn't vote for! Put them on your prayer list for the next two years and pray regularly for them (1 Tim 2:1-3).
For those whom you don't like, don't want to follow their lead, etc., put yourself on your prayer list to accept and support God's sovereign choice of who He put in office. Each and every one is His minister for your good (Romans 13:1-5). "Good" doesn't mean earthly/worldly good - it means your spiritual growth good (per the context - think Romans 8:28 good!) Blessings, Bill 1 Ti2:1 First of all, then, I urge that entreaties and prayers, petitions and thanksgivings, be made on behalf of all men, 2 for kings and all who are in authority, so that we may lead a tranquil and quiet life in all godliness and dignity. 3 This is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Savior, Ro13:1 Every person is to be in subjection to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and those which exist are established by God. 2 Therefore whoever resists authority has opposed the ordinance of God; and they who have opposed will receive condemnation upon themselves. 3 For rulers are not a cause of fear for good behavior, but for evil. Do you want to have no fear of authority? Do what is good and you will have praise from the same; 4 for it is a minister of God to you for good. But if you do what is evil, be afraid; for it does not bear the sword for nothing; for it is a minister of God, an avenger who brings wrath on the one who practices evil. 5 Therefore it is necessary to be in subjection, not only because of wrath, but also for conscience’ sake.
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Hi Bill, I do pray for the Liberal Socialists in office. Lord I ask you to throw them out of WDC and replace them with men of Godly mind and action in office. Men like Nadler who rebuked a Godly man with a remark of " the will of God is no matter to this congress " words to that effect. Anyone besides me who remembers seeing and hearing that on evening news about two years ago ? My conscience is clear praying in that manner. Remove the unfit and the UNGodly from office.
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BUT, per Romans 13 (and the testimony of MANY places in the OT), God put these people in office and they are His ministers. Don't dishonor God by how you talk about them, treat them, or heaven forbid, disobey them (obviously, in things that are not sin). Keep your joy, peace, and the Lord's blessing by looking at government from God's perspective. Let Him grow you spiritually by His choices and the blessings and trials that often come from them! Blessings,
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I do not accept that God put people in government when they were elected thru FRAUDULENT elections ! The entire current administration is a fraudulent administration, in my not so humble point of view. Its good to read your postings Bill, how is life going these days ?
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i agree with you both, billvau and g_h. God will put and remove people to accomplish his will. he also honor people's choice, good or bad.
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2000 years ago, Israel groaned under the oppressive Roman government. They prayed for deliverance. They prayed for a conqueror to defeat Rome. But look how God answered their prayer. He did something greater than they could ask or imagine. He sent The Deliverer for their souls. God hears. God answers prayer. Fix your eyes on Him and wait.
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Humble yourself, take God at His word, and then wrestle with this truth. God sent the Chaldeans to punish Israel. EVERY administration, even if 100% Christians would sin. Sorry, GH, but you consistently won't accept the clear interpretation of Scripture. I wouldn't be a true Christian brother if I didn't point out this major, glaring, area of growth for you. Blessings,
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I am just as frustrated with this election as most of you. God has a purpose, but I don't know it, yet. I have been reading the Psalms, and today I read Chapter 83. It spoke to me and I'll post it, and maybe it will speak to some of you.
83 Do not keep silent, O God! Do not hold Your peace, And do not be still, O God! 2 For behold, Your enemies make a tumult; And those who hate You have lifted up their head. 3 They have taken crafty counsel against Your people, And consulted together against Your sheltered ones. 4 They have said, “Come, and let us cut them off from being a nation, That the name of Israel may be remembered no more.” 5 For they have consulted together with one consent; They form a confederacy against You: 6 The tents of Edom and the Ishmaelites; Moab and the Hagrites; 7 Gebal, Ammon, and Amalek; Philistia with the inhabitants of Tyre; 8 Assyria also has joined with them; They have helped the children of Lot. Selah 9 Deal with them as with Midian, As with Sisera, As with Jabin at the Brook Kishon, 10 Who perished at En Dor, Who became as refuse on the earth. 11 Make their nobles like Oreb and like Zeeb, Yes, all their princes like Zebah and Zalmunna, 12 Who said, “Let us take for ourselves The pastures of God for a possession.” 13 O my God, make them like the whirling dust, Like the chaff before the wind! 14 As the fire burns the woods, And as the flame sets the mountains on fire, 15 So pursue them with Your tempest, And frighten them with Your storm. 16 Fill their faces with shame, That they may seek Your name, O Lord. 17 Let them be confounded and dismayed forever; Yes, let them be put to shame and perish, 18 That they may know that You, whose name alone is the Lord, Are the Most High over all the earth.
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You can't be up on the OT, if you've missed how God puts kings in place, removes kings, uses leaders, uses nations, etc.
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Consider that God, an eternal, created time. Time has more relevance to us than it does to God. What I am inartfully trying to express is that we grow impatient because time to us is so pressing. An important lesson to learn is that God's time is always a better course than ours. I wish I stated that better, but many of you know what I'm trying to say.
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Bill, I bolded what I want to emphasize. Many of God's ways are above our thinking. I don't fully understand it, but cheating in an election results in what God wants to accomplish. He has declared to us what is bolded above, and we need to subordinate ourselves to His ways. We can still have contempt for those who cheated but nothing happens without God's approval.
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Blessings!
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Everything you are saying/typing is well known to me, and I never back down from my scriptural stances. And for this proper interpretation matter its you versus me again. We do this frequently. Hang in there Bill.
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The part we do frequently is you disagreeing without a biblical argument. So, honestly, you come to the fight without a sword (Eph6:17 And take THE HELMET OF SALVATION, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God.). IOW, defenseless. I mainly respond to GH so that others won't fall into error. I wish that there could be discussion (Pr27:17 Iron sharpens iron, So one man sharpens another.)
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Bill read Psalm 2, Psalm 75, and Psalm 110. Don't try to figure out what I am thinking when I respond to you, you get it sideways each time. Hang in there Bill.
I frequently read these Psalms as prayer when I am praying for CORRUPT Government in the USA and Canada. Psalm 1 Last edited by Garand Hunter; 11-23-2022 at 10:18 AM.. Reason: added sentence |
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I don't try to figure out what you're thinking in your responses! I don't do that with anyone. If there isn't Scripture in your response, then I cannot place any value on your position (2 Tim. 2:16). If there is Scripture, I get its meaning from the text, in context, with a proper hermeneutic. I go vertical to the Lord, not sideways (i.e. horizontal to you) (Col. 3:1-2; 2 Tim. 2:15). Time for a couple of days up at my cabin, in the snow. Have a blessed Thanksgiving.
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Bill, what about the Bible telling us to obey our leaders? You are the theologian here, so correct me if I am wrong. I don’t believe it differentiates between “good” and “bad” leaders, does it? Or ones who some believe were illegitimately placed into office? Thank you.
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God also gives us brains and expects us to use them. I would suggest that loving God with all your heart, soul, strength and mind could include learning some lessons available from history.
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1. Yes, the Bible tells us to obey our leaders (Romans 13:1-5; 1 Peter 2:13-17, others) 2. No, it doesn't differentiate good/bad leaders. In fact, both of those passages are clear about that. 3. No one is "illegitimately" placed into office. Romans 13:1 makes that clear - God places people in office. They are HIS ministers. BUT, with all that said, 1. We always obey God. In this context, we never disobey God to obey leaders. Sometimes that's black-and-white (gov't allows abortion, but we can't use that as justification to get an abortion, because we're disobeying God (murder). Sometimes it's gray and depends on the situation (keeping churches open during COVID.) 2. You have to differentiate when a gov't CONDONES evil (abortion) or COMPELS evil (Pharaoh telling mid-wives to kill babies). When a gov't COMPELS evil, you have choices: A. Disobey and potentially suffer consequences (remember the fiery furnace and lion's den?) B. Flee. Joseph and Mary fled with baby Jesus when under-2yo's were being put to death. Israel fled from Egypt,. Obadiah and Elijah fled from Jezebel. I've seen Romans 13 abused far more than followed because (1) we just don't like being told that we HAVE to follow a government of unbelievers who don't even know how to do godly good, (2) people interpret "good" (13:3) as worldly good but the whole context of Romans (e.g. Romans 8:28!) is our godly good - the good that grows us spiritually. In addition, people won't accept that the Bible clearly teaches that God CAUSES our trials (ask Job!). And, finally, (3) people put a standard of perfection on Romans 13:1-5 that isn't there. So, they want absolute promises, when that's not what the Bible is teaching. In general, God will use gov't to praise those who do "good," but that's not an absolute, every time promise. (we can discuss this principle more). I look at our government, see God in it/behind it/over it, and just wonder and watch to see how He is working out His sovereign plan. Because it's God's government, I never give up my peace and joy to them, AND, I NEVER disparage them (no name calling, ridiculing, etc.) because that's actually attacking God's ministers! Another thing we could discuss more is how it is actually highly unlikely that a god-obeying Christian will get persecuted by evil people in this world. Yes, it happens, but it is actually a miniscule, unmeasurable thing to happen vs. us being left alone (the Bible says so). And, when it happens we are called to respond exactly like Christ did (1 Peter 2:20b-23). Does this help? Again- sorry, I was late! Blessings!
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They threw him in the lion’s den to die. We are to obey the laws of the land except when they are in opposition to the laws of God. To the Christian, we are to obey the scriptures and the apostle’s teachings. Quote:
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Bill, thank you for responding. Never apologize for taking too long.
First, I know that no leader is “illegitimately” installed. I put that word in quotes for a reason. I appreciate your explanation. Your explanation of compelling vs. condoning is especially helpful. I think most Christians have struggled/do struggle with the concept of following a government that does not value the Bible. I think we too often use this as justification to disparage and disobey the government and forget that every leader, good or bad, is in place for the greater glory of God I really appreciated your comments on persecution as well. It seems the examples set by Paul and Daniel (thanks, KoKo) are great guides for us. Thanks again. This was very helpful. |
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12 Then the Lord appeared to Solomon at night and said to him, “I have heard your prayer and have chosen this place for Myself as a house of sacrifice. 13 If I shut up the heavens so that there is no rain, or if I command the locust to devour the land, or if I send a plague among My people, 14 and My people who are called by My name humble themselves, and pray and seek My face, and turn from their wicked ways, then I will hear from heaven, and I will forgive their sin and will heal their land. 15 Now My eyes will be open and My ears attentive to the prayer offered in this place. 16 For now I have chosen and consecrated this house so that My name may be there forever, and My eyes and My heart will be there always. 17 As for you, if you walk before Me as your father David walked, to do according to everything that I have commanded you, and keep My statutes and My ordinances, 18 then I will establish your royal throne as I covenanted with your father David, saying, ‘You shall not lack a man to be ruler in Israel.’
19 “But if you turn away and abandon My statutes and My commandments which I have set before you, and go and serve other gods and worship them, 20 then I will uproot you from My land which I have given you, and this house which I have consecrated for My name I will cast out of My sight; and I will make it a proverb and an object of scorn among all peoples. 21 As for this house, which was exalted, everyone who passes by it will be astonished and say, ‘Why has the Lord done these things to this land and to this house?’ 22 And they will say, ‘Because they abandoned the Lord, the God of their fathers, who brought them from the land of Egypt, and they adopted other gods, and worshiped and served them; therefore He has brought all this adversity on them.’” God, thank you for Your timeless words, Salvation through Jesus and the peace You bring Your people. Please give us wisdom, let us recognize Your grace, and touch the political class' heart to serve You rather than themselves. Please help us be better witnesses by the life we live and the words we say, to help make the kingdom of God real to the lost. Amen
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-if ever a nation deserved to be punished for turning away from God it is the United States in the 21st century. -and, neither individual liberty nor "constitutional republic" are Scriptural. both are mechanisms to turn man's attention away from God. Repent, America, and be saved.
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