Vote In-Person To Make Fraud Harder?

[socal m1 shooter]

I read that Kari Lake had encouraged supporters in the primary to vote in-person on election day to make it harder for leftists to perpetrate voter fraud.

There have been some attempts in AZ to get back to paper ballots but I have not followed the issue closely enough to know whether my county or the state of CA as a whole differs significantly from the current situation in AZ.

Is there a wise way to make an absentee ballot here in CA function like an in-person, vote-on-election-day kind of ballot? I've been voting absentee so long that I do not know what happens if I show up at a polling place on election day with (or without) my absentee ballot. The videos and materials posted by my county are not real helpful for understanding on a practical level how that would work. In this sceptic tank of a state, I'm not even sure it is worth the trouble to try the strategy that Kari Lake and her people were encouraging.

What are you doing to make sure your CA vote isn't cancelled by fraud?

[saltwater]

I vote in person only.

I voted by mail once and received a notice that my ballot was rejected because my signature did not match what they had on file. Never again.

[ezaircon4jc]

We'll be out of the state on the 8th. We're going to hand deliver our ballots to an OFFICIAL site; not some drop-box on some random corner.

[kln5]

In the primary I showed up at a polling place and handed my mail ballot to the guy and told him that I wanted to vote in person. He had me write void on the mail ballot and I went and checked in and got a paper ballot. Easy. Was in and out in 5 minutes. The polling people, at least where I’m at, want you to vote.

Also they told me I could go to any polling place and cast a ballot. I asked since I had recently moved and wasn’t sure where to go.

Don’t be scared of the polling place just because you haven’t been there.

[socal m1 shooter]

The last time we voted in a polling place, it was slammed and I think we waited 40-60 minutes (that is when I became a perma-absentee voter). I don't think that is likely to be as much of an issue now, but when I fill out my absentee ballot, it takes some time to do the due diligence. All the judges and local races.

I was thinking to use the absentee ballot as my voter guide. The absentee ballot for my county is 3 pages.

[Sam .223]

I get my mail in voter ballot and drop it off at an official polling place to make sure I have time to do the research, I never use a drop box.

[DolphinFan]

I always vote in person

[dchang0]

I don't think any method is risk-free.

A good buddy of mine went to vote in person in 2020 and was told that he had already voted. Apparently he was the target of a deliberate voting fraud that goes like this:

The vote fraudsters look through voting rolls to see who is registered but hasn't voted in a long time or doesn't vote very often. They then impersonate this person knowing that they have a good chance of getting their fraudulent ballot through without the impersonated voter even noticing.

This made me think: maybe it's better to vote as early as possible so that no fraudster can beat me to it. Thus, I am now voting by mail as early as possible.

Of course, there are risks with vote by mail too, such as having my ballot stolen/destroyed/thrown-away by malicious postal workers or ballot box pickup personnel. So I'm not claiming my strategy is safe. I just figure that getting my vote in ASAP will deter fraudsters who won't want to bother with requesting a provisional ballot in my name. If they see in the database that I've already voted, they should pass me over for other infrequent voters.

[Tango_Down]

Here's the problem. After you vote you can verify that you voted but NOT who you voted for. What's to prevent your vote from being changed and you never knowing it?

[Striker62]

Originally Posted by Tango_Down

Here's the problem. After you vote you can verify that you voted but NOT who you voted for. What's to prevent your vote from being changed and you never knowing it?

Exactly this^ once the ballot is separated from the envelope, there is nothing keeping from a replacement ballot being used. Vote in person.

[dchang0]

Originally Posted by Striker62

Exactly this^ once the ballot is separated from the envelope, there is nothing keeping from a replacement ballot being used. Vote in person.

You are correct, but this can happen even with in-person voting.

Unless the ballot counting happens right in front of you, you don't know whether it was miscounted or replaced. Most precincts will send their ballots to a counting/tabulation center, and we saw the 2020 footage of GOP observers being forced out of Democrat-run ballot counting centers and being prevented from looking in through the windows.

There is no magic bullet to make sure your ballot counts, and there are dozens of ways to commit election fraud that we can't detect or stop.

[socal m1 shooter]

[ja308]

My church is collecting ballots and its surmised they will have an accurate count of each county.
FWIW, democrats become triggered and leave within the first few minutes. Those looking for everlasting life in paradise will do well to check out CCCH.

[redhead]

We always vote in person. In the past, we fed our ballots into a machine ourselves. The primary election was different. There were boxes marked “ballot box” that we put our completed ballots in. I’m not fond of that method. I want to feed it into the counting machine myself. Seems like it would be less likely that there would be fraud.

[DaveInOroValley]

Originally Posted by ezaircon4jc

We'll be out of the state on the 8th. We're going to hand deliver our ballots to an OFFICIAL site; not some drop-box on some random corner.

This is what we do as well.

[newbutold]

I mail or drop mine off. I just hope there are some candidates worth voting for

[JDHCA]

Just get out and vote. In Contra Costa County in the last election, only about 20% turned out to vote. If the conservatives had gotten out and voted we might have had a different outcome.

[socal m1 shooter]

Originally Posted by JDHCA

Just get out and vote. In Contra Costa County in the last election, only about 20% turned out to vote. If the conservatives had gotten out and voted we might have had a different outcome.

I was watching Rich Baris/"People's Pundit" on a recent midterm forecast video (Rumble, about 38 minutes in), and he is saying that it is expected this will be a high-turnout election generally in CA.

[Marauder2003]

I have a friend that says to vote last minute. Either machine or ballot. Gives the Dems less time to figure out how many votes they need to fix the election.

[socal m1 shooter]

Originally Posted by Marauder2003

I have a friend that says to vote last minute. Either machine or ballot. Gives the Dems less time to figure out how many votes they need to fix the election.

Thing is, if only a small number of right-leaning voters do that, the effect is basically a fart in a thunderstorm.

In AZ with the leftist mouthbreather SoS also on the ballot, I think Kari Lake is smart to encourage her people to vote late. The question is, is it worth the hassle here? At this point I think it is questionable in CA at some levels, but in local races there are some leftists running for various things, like school boards, and I think the state vote fraud machine is less willing to perpetrate fraud in those races.

[socal m1 shooter]

Alleged photo of someone with a hidden license plate doing ballot stuffing in AZ.

There is a group claiming to work for election integrity. Their Web site is amateur hour, but they do have a lot of links. Reading just a bit, one gets a sense that there are good reasons to vote in-person in CA.

[Scratch705]

best solution.

no one votes. then the fraud will be really obvious. keep your ballots, then if you check your vote status after the election and it says you voted, you now have proof there is voter fraud occurring.

[prudent]

Originally Posted by socal m1 shooter

I read that Kari Lake had encouraged supporters in the primary to vote in-person on election day to make it harder for leftists to perpetrate voter fraud.

There have been some attempts in AZ to get back to paper ballots but I have not followed the issue closely enough to know whether my county or the state of CA as a whole differs significantly from the current situation in AZ.

Is there a wise way to make an absentee ballot here in CA function like an in-person, vote-on-election-day kind of ballot? I've been voting absentee so long that I do not know what happens if I show up at a polling place on election day with (or without) my absentee ballot. The videos and materials posted by my county are not real helpful for understanding on a practical level how that would work. In this sceptic tank of a state, I'm not even sure it is worth the trouble to try the strategy that Kari Lake and her people were encouraging.

What are you doing to make sure your CA vote isn't cancelled by fraud?

i'm planning on voting in person for precisely this reason. the voting place is near where i live and open for early dropoff of the ballot starting tomorrow, so hopefully short lines.

[newbutold]

People will believe anything

[Yugo]

Originally Posted by prudent

i'm planning on voting in person for precisely this reason. the voting place is near where i live and open for early dropoff of the ballot starting tomorrow, so hopefully short lines.

the point is NOT to drop off early, what dont you get about this?

[Yugo]

ok so I have the ballot they sent in the mail, do I fill it out at home and bring it in and hand it to them the day of OR do I just go the day of and vote there without my ballot that got sent to me?

No wonder voting is rigged, they make it so damn difficult to figure out.

[OCEquestrian]

"Those who cast the votes decide nothing. Those who count the votes decide everything," the post says, mis-attributed to "Communist Tyrant and mass murderer Josef Stalin."

[OCEquestrian]

Originally Posted by Scratch705

best solution.

no one votes. then the fraud will be really obvious. keep your ballots, then if you check your vote status after the election and it says you voted, you now have proof there is voter fraud occurring.

And if you are wrong only the democrats vote and decide the outcome...

[socal m1 shooter]

Originally Posted by Yugo

ok so I have the ballot they sent in the mail, do I fill it out at home and bring it in and hand it to them the day of OR do I just go the day of and vote there without my ballot that got sent to me?

No wonder voting is rigged, they make it so damn difficult to figure out.

Realistically, I think the party on the left is ready to manufacture as many ballots as they need in order to steer the outcome of select races. But this isn't a precise process, where some shot-callers in a smoky room ring up their people, "we need 4500 more ballots in this race" and someone logs into the voting machine server and makes some changes. For all I know there may be some of that, but the different counties use different systems, so it seems far more plausible that they use whatever they can put their hands to, including stuffing ballots into drop boxes, ballot harvesting, and maybe they do have some people who log in to a server and make changes.

But if I drop off my ballot at a polling center, or vote in-person, or even if I return my ballot by mail on Monday November 07, by delaying the tabulation of my vote, it may be possible that I make an infinitesimally small impediment for their cheating. For sure, they would be happy if I voted early, or-- even better-- was discouraged by all their massive fraud efforts and didn't vote at all.

In local races that are too insignificant to make systemic efforts to steer by fraud, it may be that my vote could make a difference.

[Rusty Bolts]

Originally Posted by newbutold

I mail or drop mine off. I just hope there are some candidates worth voting for

Even if there are no candidates to vote for there are plenty of candidates, propositions and measures to vote against.

Rusty Bolts

[Scratch705]

Originally Posted by OCEquestrian

And if you are wrong only the democrats vote and decide the outcome...

so you are saying there is no wide spread fraud in elections and results are trustworthy?

cause you can't believe elections have fraud but then turn around and tell people to vote in it.

Edit: just to make clear, when I say you I don't specifically mean you but the people in general that believe the elections are rigged by the democrats. Their message is completely contradictory in that they claim the elections are rigged and votes don't matter then turn around and still tell people to go vote or claim victory when a GOP candidate wins. Like you can't have it both ways. Claiming fraud only when the other side wins but then claim it is all trustworthy when your side wins.

[M76]

absentee ballot, mail it every year; it's accounted for on the website


whether they tally it is another thing in californiapocalypto

[Oceanbob]

We vote by mail. No issues. If you discover widespread fraud prove it and collect your Nobel Prize and a BJ from Kari Lake.

[newbutold]

Originally Posted by Rusty Bolts

Even if there are no candidates to vote for there are plenty of candidates, propositions and measures to vote against.

Rusty Bolts

True dat......

[Yugo]

ok so can I get a clear answer?

1 bring in my mailed ballot pre filled and drop off?
2 go inside and vote day of and throw away the mailed ballot.
3 go inside bring my mailed ballot but vote with out it.

[BC9696]

Originally Posted by socal m1 shooter

I read that Kari Lake had encouraged supporters in the primary to vote in-person on election day to make it harder for leftists to perpetrate voter fraud.

There have been some attempts in AZ to get back to paper ballots but I have not followed the issue closely enough to know whether my county or the state of CA as a whole differs significantly from the current situation in AZ.

Is there a wise way to make an absentee ballot here in CA function like an in-person, vote-on-election-day kind of ballot? I've been voting absentee so long that I do not know what happens if I show up at a polling place on election day with (or without) my absentee ballot. The videos and materials posted by my county are not real helpful for understanding on a practical level how that would work. In this sceptic tank of a state, I'm not even sure it is worth the trouble to try the strategy that Kari Lake and her people were encouraging.

What are you doing to make sure your CA vote isn't cancelled by fraud?

I complete the ballot I receive in the mail and hand to the people at the voting center. Quick in & out.

[Che762x39]

[Skidmark]

Originally Posted by socal m1 shooter

I read that Kari Lake had encouraged supporters in the primary to vote in-person on election day to make it harder for leftists to perpetrate voter fraud.

There have been some attempts in AZ to get back to paper ballots but I have not followed the issue closely enough to know whether my county or the state of CA as a whole differs significantly from the current situation in AZ.

Is there a wise way to make an absentee ballot here in CA function like an in-person, vote-on-election-day kind of ballot? I've been voting absentee so long that I do not know what happens if I show up at a polling place on election day with (or without) my absentee ballot. The videos and materials posted by my county are not real helpful for understanding on a practical level how that would work. In this sceptic tank of a state, I'm not even sure it is worth the trouble to try the strategy that Kari Lake and her people were encouraging.

What are you doing to make sure your CA vote isn't cancelled by fraud?

That woman is a robotic loon... and, besides, WHAT fraud? There's no statistically significant voter or ballot fraud, and what few cases have been found are overwhelmingly committed by Republicans.

Our elections are NOT riddled with fraudulent votes, only specious sore losers.

[socal m1 shooter]

Originally Posted by Skidmark

That woman is a robotic loon... and, besides, WHAT fraud? There's no statistically significant voter or ballot fraud, and what few cases have been found are overwhelmingly committed by Republicans.

Our elections are NOT riddled with fraudulent votes, only specious sore losers.

People, we just outed a leftist here.

@Skidmark, may I ask, can you provide a concise example of something that is statistically significant? If so, please do. I'm wondering if you understand it. Cards on the table, I doubt it.

Just remember:

[Usual_Suspect]

I sit here and read this and wonder where is the Country going? For those whose memory is fading, Hillary Clinton made the first pitch it was rigged in 2016, and could not provide the courts with any proof or widespread election fraud. Then of course, was 2020, same messaging before the votes were counted as in 2016, if I lose it's rigged. Both sides will tell you how rigged it is when they lose. Both sides need to get past the fact they don't win every time, and they don't get everything they want.