After retirement

[PeteH]

Just curious if you've continued to carry the retirement ID/HR218 in a separate wallet? (like you used to pre-retirement in a flat badge wallet) Or just together in the "regular" wallet?

[chsk9]

I have both, but carry my retired ID and 218 qual in my regular wallet.
I carry the flat when I fly or travel out of state.

[SDDAVE56]

I have often thought about that. After I retired I went to work in the civilian sector. Current job doesn't allow us to CCW. So really the only time I would need my retired ID / 218 is on my days off, or after hours.

If i got 211'd, my wallet stolen, then they know who I am, and where to go shopping. I have a small ID wallet that I can keep my 218, PORAC ID, Range membership card. and NRA card in.

Only problem with that, I definitely would have to remember to bring it when CCW.

[Enzo rules]

I carry my ID and HR218 in my regular wallet. My flat badge I only carry when I travel.

[Che762x39]

Originally Posted by SDDAVE56

I have often thought about that. After I retired I went to work in the civilian sector. Current job doesn't allow us to CCW. So really the only time I would need my retired ID / 218 is on my days off, or after hours.

After I retired I looked into Corporate Security. I can not believe so many places that has unarmed Corporate Security.

Anyways I do Executive Protection part time.

[SVT-40]

I've always carried two wallets, one with just money and a few cards such as triple AAA and the like. My flat badge wallet has all my important ID and credit card in it.

If there was a need to give up a wallet I would give up the wallet with a bit of cash in it and the cards with no address or info about me on them.

[micro911]

Originally Posted by SVT-40

I've always carried two wallets, one with just money and a few cards such as triple AAA and the like. My flat badge wallet has all my important ID and credit card in it.

If there was a need to give up a wallet I would give up the wallet with a bit of cash in it and the cards with no address or info about me on them.

That is what I do. I carry a flat badge wallet with my retired ID, CDL, and HR218 and so on. I also carry a business card holder with some cash and some cards.

[Frank1911]

Why would anyone feel the need to carry their HR218 card in their own state (the state where they were a LEO)?

HR218 is only needed when traveling beyond the stateline from where they were a PO. Am I missing something?

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[jayhuh]

Originally Posted by chsk9

I have both, but carry my retired ID and 218 qual in my regular wallet.
I carry the flat when I fly or travel out of state.

^^^
This is what I do.

[Rustlin’ Jack]

Originally Posted by Frank1911

Why would anyone feel the need to carry their HR218 card in their own state (the state where they were a LEO)?

HR218 is only needed when traveling beyond the stateline from where they were a PO. Am I missing something?

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Yes, actually, you are missing some of what LEOSA has to offer. Much has been written about the law enforcement officer safety act. It covers all 50 states and makes no distinction for the state you worked in versus those that you travel to. If you do not have a CCW issued by your former agency, HR 218 is the only legal means of carrying in your home state. You absolutely must have credentials to support carrying a concealed firearm.

LEOSA gives greater flexibility as to the type of firearms allowed to be carried. Having both a CCW permit and LEOSA credentialing is the best route to go.

[TrailerparkTrash]

I plan on carrying retired ID and yearly LEOSA qualification proof (‘cause technically I read it’s no longer a “HR218” thingy/code any longer if We’re getting technical), in a seperate wallet. Because if I got robbed and in the rare event the crooks go through the wallet like say during a take-over robbery and I don’t have my gun on me, I don’t want the crooks to know I’m retired LE. If I have the gun, then I have the credentials. No gun in possession = no id showing that I’m former po-po.

Remember off duty LA county deputy sheriff Shane York (RIP) and what happened to him in the 90’s. He was inside a Fullerton hair salon with his fiancé and a take-over 211 occurred. The bad guys went through his wallet, found his flat badge and coup de grace’d him in the back of the head, just because they despised cops. He left his gun in the car for convenience, but had his LE id in his possession. It’s like walking into a public place in uniform, with no means (gun) of protection.

So being retired, there are some places we retired dudes can’t concealed carry any longer, so the gun would have to be locked up in the car or home. I don't want my retired id on me if I’m not in possession of a firearm. So I’ll be back to carrying two wallets upon retirement.

No gun on me= no retired id with me as well.
This is just me.

[joefrank64k]

I stopped carrying a flat badge after the York incident.

Just my retired ID amongst my other cards.

[Frank1911]

Originally Posted by joefrank64k

I stopped carrying a flat badge after the York incident.

Just my retired ID amongst my other cards.

You and many others.

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[Che762x39]

Originally Posted by TrailerparkTrash

Remember off duty LA county deputy sheriff Shane York (RIP) and what happened to him in the 90’s. He was inside a Fullerton hair salon with his fiancé and a take-over 211 occurred. The bad guys went through his wallet, found his flat badge and coup de grace’d him in the back of the head, just because they despised cops.

I remember the Deputy York murder. Evil happens every where.