2022 Los Angeles County Sheriff election mega thread..

[FourPaws]

Recently surfed the LA Co CCW thread and see several sigs saying "Re elect Villanueva". Members on a gun forum obviously have an interest in firearms and the 2A so why on earth would you vote for an anti gun liberal??? No wonder why CA is so behind on gun rights.

[9Cal_OC]

Yep. Some worship the ground he walks on.

And based on his political views, it’s just a ploy for votes.

[n8vrmind]

He is anti Gascon. The enemy of my enemy is my friend? But I hope we have better candidates for Sheriff..

[Kurgan]

The only way he should get support is if his opponent is a bigger POS than he is. That would be tough in the real world but entirely possible in Clownifornia.

Sometimes you just have to hold your nose and vote, as South Park reminds us, for a turd sandwich or a giant douche.

[Jeepergeo]

Originally Posted by FourPaws

Recently surfed the LA Co CCW thread and see several sigs saying "Re elect Villanueva". Members on a gun forum obviously have an interest in firearms and the 2A so why on earth would you vote for an anti gun liberal??? No wonder why CA is so behind on gun rights.

Dem/Lib/Union sheeple people abound, even among firearm enthusiasts.

[n8vrmind]

Originally Posted by Kurgan

The only way he should get support is if his opponent is a bigger POS than he is. That would be tough in the real world but entirely possible in Clownifornia.



Sometimes you just have to hold your nose and vote, as South Park reminds us, for a turd sandwich or a giant douche.

Already experienced it recently.... Feinstein v. "de" Leon...

[TruOil]

Read recently that he is approving about 1 in 4 CCW applications. Makes one wonder who gets and who don't get.

[1911-CV]

There is lots of discussion in the CCW - LA County specific forum. Members say he has done the most of any Sheriff in recent decades to make CCW possible for folks living in LA. Seems like many pretty regular folks of good character and clean background are making it through the process. Clearly still not a "shall issue" county, but better than it has been in a long, long time.

[pacrat]

Originally Posted by TruOil

Read recently that he is approving about 1 in 4 CCW applications. Makes one wonder who gets and who don't get.

Answer is that he is only approving "business related" applications.

SCEW all those poor people. Like old widow ladies that live in once nice neighborhoods. That are now crime infested crap holes. Thanks to his long time political party's policies.

[pacrat]

Originally Posted by 1911-CV

There is lots of discussion in the CCW - LA County specific forum. Members say he has done the most of any Sheriff in recent decades to make CCW possible for folks living in LA. Seems like many pretty regular folks of good character and clean background are making it through the process. Clearly still not a "shall issue" county, but better than it has been in a long, long time.

In "REAL SPEAK".

LESS CH!TTY FOR PEOPLE OF MEANS, .... but .... STILL VERY CRAPPY.

For average law abiding citizens, who are left at the mercy of criminals

[Colt]

Didn’t he try to have all the LGS’s closed at the beginning of COVID?

[FourPaws]

Originally Posted by 1911-CV

There is lots of discussion in the CCW - LA County specific forum. Members say he has done the most of any Sheriff in recent decades to make CCW possible for folks living in LA. Seems like many pretty regular folks of good character and clean background are making it through the process. Clearly still not a "shall issue" county, but better than it has been in a long, long time.

Thats because he's up for re-election and butting heads with BLM and Gascon. Without that base, who can make up for those lost votes? The gun guys he decided to throw peanuts at and issue a few CCWs. It's obvious this is nothing more than a way to get a few more votes.

He's no different than his opponent LBPD Chief Luna who has recently thrown his officers under the bus to win the approval of the BLM and Gascon crowd.
Nothing more than a bunch of sleazy greaseball politicians.

[Dvrjon]

LA County Democratic Party oppose him.
LA County Supervisors oppose him.
Gascon opposes him.
BLM opposes him.
He won’t comply with the vaccine mandate.
He opposed the mask mandate.
He’s opened up CCWs.

What’s not to like?

[FourPaws]

Originally Posted by Dvrjon

LA County Democratic Party oppose him.
LA County Supervisors oppose him.
Gascon opposes him.
BLM opposes him.
He won’t comply with the vaccine mandate.
He opposed the mask mandate.
He’s opened up CCWs.

What’s not to like?

He opened up CCWs, woodie doooo. They've always been open. If he was serious about our gun rights he would have a streamlined CCW process that doesn't take a year and approve those without a criminal history. Who cares about the vaccine mandate unless you're a dep? Do you not remember his COVID task force where he allocated 100s of deputies to arrest people partying during the stay at home order, meanwhile serious crimes were increasing throughout the county?

[Kurgan]

Good luck getting an actual pro 2a tough on crime sheriff in LA Co.

It just isn't going to happen.

[FourPaws]

Originally Posted by Kurgan

Good luck getting an actual pro 2a tough on crime sheriff in LA Co.

It just isn't going to happen.

I agree but I'm not going to glorify the best of the worst either. Villanueva is trash.

[The Gleam]

The Left doesn't like him either, so if we could get a CCW-friendly option to run (for real, not some poser promising to be as Villanueva had been) it may lean favorably our way.

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[pacrat]

Originally Posted by The Gleam

The Left doesn't like him either, so if we could get a CCW-friendly option to run (for real, not some poser promising to be as Villanueva had been) it may lean favorably our way.

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We had just such a candidate in 2018. He didn't have a chance against the DemRat controlled county of LA.

https://sheriffboblindsey.com/

[ar15robert]

A cousin who works for laso says hes just a typical politician will say anything to make it look like hes doing something but in the end its comply.

[GregW948]

Originally Posted by Jeepergeo

Dem/Lib/Union sheeple people abound, even among firearm enthusiasts.

Oh dude.. you aint kidding.. try taking an AR/AK to a range in Wisconsin... all those rainbow hunters will look at you like you are a child molester... trust me, I know.

[enegue]

Originally Posted by TruOil

Read recently that he is approving about 1 in 4 CCW applications. Makes one wonder who gets and who don't get.

You don’t have to wonder, you can just take yourself to the Los Angeles CCW thread on this very same website.

You guys can vote for whoever you want but there are typically two or so top candidates and a vote for anyone else is a protest vote or just a waste. Like voting Libertarian and letting the Dems win every election and then later wondering why your kids are being taught CRT in school.

The whole “he’s doing it for votes” thing is getting really tiring. Yeah, that’s what politicians do. They do stuff for votes.

[OCEquestrian]

Originally Posted by n8vrmind

He is anti Gascon. The enemy of my enemy is my friend? But I hope we have better candidates for Sheriff..

^^^^ THIS is the reality of politics. The democrats have learned this and have been winning in CA for decades.

[middleofnowhere]

Originally Posted by Kurgan

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Sometimes you just have to hold your nose and vote, as South Park reminds us, for a turd sandwich or a giant douche.

Originally Posted by n8vrmind

Already experienced it recently.... Feinstein v. "de" Leon...

When you can only choose an “evil”, the lesser is the better choice. There will be a greater evil on the ballot than Villanueva come election time for sure.

Do you think Rhambo, Vera or Rodriguez would be better for LA County?

[Scratch705]

Originally Posted by enegue

You don’t have to wonder, you can just take yourself to the Los Angeles CCW thread on this very same website.

You guys can vote for whoever you want but there are typically two or so top candidates and a vote for anyone else is a protest vote or just a waste. Like voting Libertarian and letting the Dems win every election and then later wondering why your kids are being taught CRT in school.

The whole “he’s doing it for votes” thing is getting really tiring. Yeah, that’s what politicians do. They do stuff for votes.

And after he gets the votes he decides to stop issuing ccws like before he got into the beef with the city council? So would you vote for biden if he removed the import ban on Russian ammo and arms? If no then why would vote for the same sheriff that tried to close down all gun stores during the initial day of covid lockdown?

[lastinline]

Would anyone here who has been issued a CCW recently by him, vote for him if the CCW situation had remained the status quo from many decades prior? I can’t erase the image of the LASD deputy chasing down that guy on the deserted beach in Malibu when the plandemic started. AV is nothing more than another libtard elected official doing what they all do: raising a wet finger to the wind, and seeing what minuscule act will get more votes. And it’s working. Look at everyone here who has an endorsement in their sig line. That’s new.

[enegue]

Originally Posted by Scratch705

And after he gets the votes he decides to stop issuing ccws like before he got into the beef with the city council? So would you vote for biden if he removed the import ban on Russian ammo and arms? If no then why would vote for the same sheriff that tried to close down all gun stores during the initial day of covid lockdown?

He’s not going to stop issuing CCWs after he gets re-elected. But you can say that about any politician on virtually any issue.

They’re all self-serving scumbags so it’s actually more likely that a Sheriff would stop issuing if it became evident that it doesn’t get them more votes so the more you fight against a sheriff that actually started issuing CCWs in a county where it was effectively banned, the higher chance that they will stop issuing. You just have to look at it from their perspective, what helps them get re/elected.

[GregW948]

Originally Posted by lastinline

Would anyone here who has been issued a CCW recently by him, vote for him if the CCW situation had remained the status quo from many decades prior? I can’t erase the image of the LASD deputy chasing down that guy on the deserted beach in Malibu when the plandemic started. AV is nothing more than another libtard elected official doing what they all do: raising a wet finger to the wind, and seeing what minuscule act will get more votes. And it’s working. Look at everyone here who has an endorsement in their sig line. That’s new.

That was fkking sick wasnt it... sick to my stomach... and yes, when you get to the point of rallying for half azz sorta kinda maybe Commies to win elections, its lost no matter what happens..

[Hsu]

Originally Posted by lastinline

Would anyone here who has been issued a CCW recently by him, vote for him if the CCW situation had remained the status quo from many decades prior?

No because that would be status quo so we would vote for someone else. Isn't this what we want though? A politician that does things for votes? If he does the right things for votes than it would show that what he is doing is keeping him at his job. I don't see how that's a bad thing. Isn't that how the people gain some kind of control over politicians? Most of the blue area sheriffs just don't issue he's at least thinking outside the box. Both parties do things for votes some do things regardless because the voters won't hold them to account aka vote blue no matter who or they don't care what happens to them. I doubt the population that will vote for him because of the loosening of CCW issuance is large enough to tip the scales in an area as large as he controls in his favor. If anything it would gain him more enemies from his left flank and there aren't enough on his right flank to help him that much. So he is taking a politically unpopular stance for what a few thousand votes? I would argue he's risking his job over his CCW policy more than helping.

I voted for Lindsey solely on CCW and was crushed when he lost because I actually saw quite a few signs for him so I thought he would have a chance. I rolled my eyes when Villanueva said he would increase issuance by 400% a year ago during his live stream. Great 400% of 1 is 4. This was a year ago I don't keep up with all the local politics but if you are saying was going with the political wind a year ago I would say that's a little far fetched considering the election is next year. So he would be doing it almost 2 years in advance. I don't usually keep up with local politics but the man said something and actually did it. I think he's up to 2,000 issued and before he came into office I think there was only 250 so he increased it by 800%. You can argue he's not issuing to everyone sure but a start is a start. If you look at his educational history he is quite educated. I don't know of many sheriffs that have a doctorate but he does. So I'm thinking he might have some kind of plan.

If I was in his shoes and wanted to issue it would have to roll it out in stages and perhaps that's what he's doing. It's speculation but it makes logical sense. Between covid and defunding, he doesn't have the staff to handle the thousands of applications they received so he has to triage. LASD did issue to regular people in the beginning that applied but I'm sure after they were inundated they had to prioritize on who they can process and not just a first come first serve. Right now if you are a firefighter you can get one in 2 months. I just met someone that got theirs in that time. Supposedly it's because their backgrounds are already cleared so it makes issuing much faster. Next would be who he thinks is super responsible which I believe he thinks are business owners then after that are people who handle valuable items. It's not a shall issue system but it's the best iteration of a may issue system we've had in LA since I can remember so he gets credit. He's not making the process more difficult like my local jurisdiction that requires 3 letters of character references with unlisted fees and other requirements that I couldn't even find in the city's manual for CCW because they don't issue so why waste time writing policy or some others that require psych evaluations. He is trying to implement an online system but it's going to be a while because of the lack of resources. He also has to have some concern that a CCW he issues blows up in his face and then he would be sunk. I'm seeing more risks for him than rewards.

[Mute]

And who exactly do you recommend everyone vote for in the next Sheriff election? We had our best shot with Bob Lindsey and that fell flat. Chances are, if AV doesn't get re-elected we'll get someone far worse and on top of that someone who'll be on the side of the Board Of Supervisor and all the other pro-criminal elements in office in L.A. County. You people really kill me.

[GregW948]

Originally Posted by Mute

And who exactly do you recommend everyone vote for in the next Sheriff election? We had our best shot with Bob Lindsey and that fell flat. Chances are, if AV doesn't get re-elected we'll get someone far worse and on top of that someone who'll be on the side of the Board Of Supervisor and all the other pro-criminal elements in office in L.A. County. You people really kill me.

The problem is Pubs and Conservatives have not showed their fangs like the Left has .... I keep saying this but the Left are the adults here playing for keeps... the right is acting like this is football game and just keeping score while 'analyzing' everything

[Rob454]

Originally Posted by TruOil

Read recently that he is approving about 1 in 4 CCW applications. Makes one wonder who gets and who don't get.

CCW permit window one window down past to the donation window. You can pick up your ticket for the CCW line at the donation window.

[Paladin]

Originally Posted by FourPaws

why on earth would you vote for an anti gun liberal???

Because sheriffs don’t make or judge laws, they only enforce them, so AV’s personal beliefs on those matters is irrelevant. What is relevant is a sheriff’s position on GC for CCWs since the legislature left it up to him to decide that. On that AV is better than ANY sheriff has EVER had.

Originally Posted by Lockdown.-

Look at where Dem Villanueva has taken LA Co compared to where his predecessor McDonnell (GOP) left it. Of the 10 non green counties on the CA CCW GC map, I know that Livingston in CoCoCo, Ahern in Alameda, Smith in Santa Clara and Brown in Santa Barbara are all GOPers. Sonoma Co went from Dark Red to Dark Green under Dem Sheriff Essick. In CoCoCo 2022 Dem challenger Ben Therriault said he’ll accept “self defense” for Good Cause. (That’s Dark Green on the CA CCW GC map.) With sheriffs, vote by issue not by party. That’s why sheriffs elections are non-partisan.

LASD under Sheriff Jim McDonnell had corrupt CCW issuance as seen by the California State Auditor’s (CSA) report: 25 out of 25 audited files did not follow their own CCW policy re. residency and 24 out of 25 did not follow their own policy on GC. (See Calif State Auditor's report re. LA: 1 page Fact Sheet: http://www.auditor.ca.gov/pdfs/factsheets/2017-101.pdf Audit Summary: http://www.auditor.ca.gov/reports/2017-101/summary.html Full, 88 page report: http://www.auditor.ca.gov/pdfs/reports/2017-101.pdf

[Paladin]

Originally Posted by TruOil

Read recently that he is approving about 1 in 4 CCW applications. Makes one wonder who gets and who don't get.

Going from stronger to weaker GCs: death threats with Restraining Orders, professional or business ownership related risks (landlord who collects rents, RE agent showing homes to strangers), and employment related risks (property manager collecting rents, restaurant manager who makes deposits). There were several who were issued for Recreational activities related risk, but over the past few months those have mostly stopped being approved, but they’re not being denied either. They’re just being held, presumably waiting for a decision by SCOTUS in the NYSRPA carry case.

[Paladin]

Originally Posted by FourPaws

He opened up CCWs, woodie doooo. They've always been open. If he was serious about our gun rights he would have a streamlined CCW process that doesn't take a year and approve those without a criminal history.

In the past 2 weeks he’s moved more personnel to process CCWs. He recently said they’ll be moving to an online application process to streamline and speed it up.

[Immortal547]

Originally Posted by FourPaws

Recently surfed the LA Co CCW thread and see several sigs saying "Re elect Villanueva". Members on a gun forum obviously have an interest in firearms and the 2A so why on earth would you vote for an anti gun liberal??? No wonder why CA is so behind on gun rights.

It’s always easy to point out problems but much harder to offer a solution. If a more pro 2a candidate presents itself I would vote for him if I believed he had a reasonable chance of winning. Otherwise you’re really just throwing your vote away.

[Immortal547]

Originally Posted by TruOil

Read recently that he is approving about 1 in 4 CCW applications. Makes one wonder who gets and who don't get.

I and about 9 of my friends and family all applied and everyone of us has been issued. Most of our good causes were work related and one was recreational. From the reports of those who were denied it seems their Good cause was either unsubstantiated or merely “self defense”. LA county is getting better but of course it still has a long way to go. Hopefully the SCOTUS case helps.

[Immortal547]

Originally Posted by FourPaws

He opened up CCWs, woodie doooo. They've always been open. If he was serious about our gun rights he would have a streamlined CCW process that doesn't take a year and approve those without a criminal history. Who cares about the vaccine mandate unless you're a dep? Do you not remember his COVID task force where he allocated 100s of deputies to arrest people partying during the stay at home order, meanwhile serious crimes were increasing throughout the county?

I don’t know which LA County you live in but no they haven’t always been open. From under 200 in years past to well over 2000 issued is opened. Could the process be quicker? Absolutely but you would need more staff and in case you haven’t noticed their budget has been cut drastically. It always amazes me how people expect change to happen overnight but yet nothing the government has ever done has shown they are capable of doing so.

[jimster716]

Originally Posted by Immortal547

I don’t know which LA County you live in but no they haven’t always been open. From under 200 in years past to well over 2000 issued is opened. Could the process be quicker? Absolutely but you would need more staff and in case you haven’t noticed their budget has been cut drastically. It always amazes me how people expect change to happen overnight but yet nothing the government has ever done has shown they are capable of doing so.

Exactly, decades of a closed door policy on CCW's in LA. So what? One candidate gives us a fighting chance but we're supposed to disavow him because he's not full-on Republican with a six-shooter on his belt? I'd rather have this guy fighting the bureaucracy than just another CCW nope nope nope sheriff capitulating to the blue leaning bleeding hearts that have been driving LA to the ground for how long?

[RooftopDefender]

Originally Posted by Dvrjon

LA County Democratic Party oppose him.
LA County Supervisors oppose him.
Gascon opposes him.
BLM opposes him.
He won’t comply with the vaccine mandate.
He opposed the mask mandate.
He’s opened up CCWs.

What’s not to like?

Yeah, why not to vote him again?

[n8vrmind]

Originally Posted by RooftopDefender

Yeah, why not to vote him again?

Vote for him "again"?
Are you a lifelong democratic party voter who only bought his first firearm after COVID+BLM *****$how?