2022 Sacramento County Sheriff election mega thread

Anthony S · #1 11-08-2021, 9:24 PM

Since Sheriff Jones is not running for re-election and is backing his Chief Deputy James Barnes, how would this effect current and future CCW permits? I tried a google search but couldnt find anything that listed Barnes`s position on CCW permits.

Scotty · #2 11-09-2021, 3:21 AM

Funny, we just covered this in the renewal class I took last week.

Barnes is pro ccw and believes in much of the same as Jones. Jones apparently visits the range often and speaks with the instructor.

An Elk Grove Assemblyman, Jim Cooper, is also going to be running. He's former Sac Sheriff. The instructor had people that know Cooper, including Cooper's brother, in his class. They said he's pro ccw. They said he's more of a politician so he would be the figure head of the office, while Barnes would run the day to day aspect keeping everything the same.

AreWeNotMen? · #3 11-09-2021, 5:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Scotty

An Elk Grove Assemblyman, Jim Cooper, is also going to be running. He's former Sac Sheriff. The instructor had people that know Cooper, including Cooper's brother, in his class. They said he's pro ccw. They said he's more of a politician so he would be the figure head of the office, while Barnes would run the day to day aspect keeping everything the same.

They LIE! Look at his voting record - gun control politician all the way. He's a nice guy, buy big fat NO for Sheriff.

Dvrjon · #4 11-09-2021, 5:51 AM

Not a fan of quoting myself, but this was raised in the Sacramento County CCW thread in this forum:

On Jones and the election:

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Originally Posted by Dvrjon

-Re-elected in 2018; 4-year term ends 31 Dec 2022.
- -2022 Primary election, Jun 7, 2022.
- -Candidates with 50%+1 in June win.
- -If no clear winner, then a run-off is part of the Nov General Election (also the date for federal mid-terms).

-Captain Jim Barnes has announced his candidacy.
- - Currently leads Field and Investigative Services (includes CCW).

-Watch for the progressives to fund their own candidate pushing for accountability and diversity.
- -They won’t start pushing until after the new year.
- -Here’s Command Staff.

////////

On Cooper

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Originally Posted by Dvrjon

Oh yay!
Voting Record includes:
-Prohibits CCW on schools
-Releases CCW holder info to Wintermut
-Limits purchase of firearms
His “no votes” are equally heinous.

Leads EFFORT TO curtail Gun Violence

Of course, in 2010 when he ran against Scott Jones, he was “shall issue” for CCWs.

"They said he's more of a politician so he would be the figure head of the office",

That's probably the most naive, self-serving statement I've read in a year. CCW authority to "may" issue rests with the Sheriff, not the staff. The policy is the Sheriff's policy. In that role, he is not a figurehead. As a politician, we know his record on 2A issues. His policy will follow that record.

Paladin · #5 11-10-2021, 6:40 PM

You Sacto people need to attend you county NRA Members Council, contact the CRPA, GOC/GOA, GOP, etc to ensure a pro CCW candidate is elected sheriff on June 7th.

tdp113530 · #6 11-13-2021, 9:46 AM

Cooper is a Democrat Politician. Review his assembly voting record before voting for him as Sheriff.

I'm voting for and supporting Barnes for Sheriff. Last thing we need is another Democrat in any office.

sacrvrrat · #7 11-13-2021, 9:51 AM

I’ve been around Cooper enough, that there is no way I would vote for him.

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Paladin · #8 11-13-2021, 1:18 PM

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Originally Posted by tdp113530

I'm voting for and supporting Barnes for Sheriff. Last thing we need is another Democrat in any office.

Livingston in CoCoCo, Ahern in Alameda Co, Smith in Santa Clara Co, Brown in Santa Barbara Co and MacDonnell, former sheriff of Los Angeles County are ALL Republicans and ALL are/were anti CCWs.

Dem Essick took over in Sonoma Co and took it Dark Green. Dem Villanueva took over in LA Co and took it to Light Green.

Go by their stance on the 2nd A and GC for CCWs, not party.

wweigle · #9 11-15-2021, 7:54 AM

When Jones and Cooper were in Runoff election for Sheriff about 10 years ago. Jones was very clear he was going to create a Shall Issue policy if elected. Cooper repeatedly gave some round about statements in the initial debates that included a third candidate who's whole platform was CCW. The third candidate was never going to be elected he, but he forced the CCW issue into the election. Can't remember the third candidates name, but we owe him a debt of graduated . In the first round of debates that included the third candidate, if I remember correctly Cooper was stating something like "He would follow the law", he never stated clearly he would create a Shall issue policy. If I remember correctly he only started using the term Shall Issue during the Runoff debates, because Jones was so clear about his position, and it clearly resonated with the voters. Had a couple of my buddies fooled. I believe Jones won the Runoff election by about 8,000 or 9,000 votes, which I believe is less than the amount of CCW permits currently outstanding under Jones. CCW holders have the potential of deciding the election if we all get behind Jones's supported candidate, if in fact he intends to continue the Shall Issue policy. After following Coopers voting record in recent years, its pretty evident to me that those of us that have CCW permits here in Sac County, would have never got them under Cooper. Cooper is no friend to gun rights. It will be interesting to see how James Barnes deals with the CCW issue when campaigning. Lets hope he is crystal clear he supports the current policy, and CCW holders are paying attention.

tdp113530 · #10 11-15-2021, 7:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Paladin

Livingston in CoCoCo, Ahern in Alameda Co, Smith in Santa Clara Co, Brown in Santa Barbara Co and MacDonnell, former sheriff of Los Angeles County are ALL Republicans and ALL are/were anti CCWs.

Dem Essick took over in Sonoma Co and took it Dark Green. Dem Villanueva took over in LA Co and took it to Light Green.

Go by their stance on the 2nd A and GC for CCWs, not party.

Yes...because the Democrats have done so much for this State and Country.

robertfchew · #11 11-15-2021, 5:17 PM

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Originally Posted by tdp113530

Yes...because the Democrats have done so much for this State and Country.

Unless something drastically changes I will never vote for another democrat. Made that mistake many times in my youth.

pacrat · #12 11-15-2021, 8:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Paladin

Livingston in CoCoCo, Ahern in Alameda Co, Smith in Santa Clara Co, Brown in Santa Barbara Co and MacDonnell, former sheriff of Los Angeles County are ALL Republicans and ALL are/were anti CCWs.

Dem Essick took over in Sonoma Co and took it Dark Green. Dem Villanueva took over in LA Co and took it to ~~Light Green.~~ "YELLOW" at best, with a few Light Green slipping through earlier. Now under stricter scrutiny NO MAS.

Go by their stance on the 2nd A and GC for CCWs, not party.

FIFY

NATEWA · #13 11-25-2021, 10:26 AM

VOTE for Barnes!

Ron Jeremey · #14 12-05-2021, 8:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Paladin

Livingston in CoCoCo, Ahern in Alameda Co, Smith in Santa Clara Co, Brown in Santa Barbara Co and MacDonnell, former sheriff of Los Angeles County are ALL Republicans and ALL are/were anti CCWs.

Dem Essick took over in Sonoma Co and took it Dark Green. Dem Villanueva took over in LA Co and took it to Light Green.

Go by their stance on the 2nd A and GC for CCWs, not party.

It seems that a very well reasoned argument here went over a few heads. It's sad to see partisanship go that deep.

NATEWA · #15 12-05-2021, 8:13 PM

https://realjusticepac.org/jimcooper/

BrokerB · #16 01-06-2022, 11:10 AM

That real justice website gives me an Actual better opinion of Cooper. That's funny

Paladin · #17 01-06-2022, 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by tdp113530

Yes...because the Democrats have done so much for this State and Country.

Yeah, they have as sheriffs. I listed above 5 RINO sheriffs that kept restrictive CCW policies in place and listed 2 Dem sheriffs who liberalized their CCW policies. Villanueva in LA Co is now issuing >200 CCWs per month! It took SD Sheriff Gore a few years to get up to that rate. Every month CGNers who never had a chance before are posting that they’ve been issued. What Villanueva has done is HUGE! If LA were a state it would be the 10th most populous state, right up there next to Michigan. That’s what MacDonnell kept virtually No Issue. That’s what Villanueva has taken to May Issue.

If you want a CCW vote for Pro CCW candidates, whether Dem or Repub. Sheriffs elections are non partisan because they don’t pass laws. Who cares about their views on global warming or abortion as long as they’re pro CCW — something they can affect. If you don’t care about being able to Bear Arms, why are you on CGN???

ETA: I’d advise you to not try to tell LA Co CGNers to vote for an anti CCW GOP sheriff at:
https://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/...8#post26518598

Paul_R · #18 01-17-2022, 12:40 PM

Jim Cooper was a poster boy for brown shirts lining up to have their picture taken with anti gun politicians. Now he's an anti gun politician. He's voted yes on every piece of anti gun legislation and even sponsored/wrote some.

SilveradoColt21 · #19 01-17-2022, 11:12 PM

I really wish Ahern would do the same in Alameda county

SkyHawk · #20 01-24-2022, 8:14 PM

Jones announced a run for Congress today

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zpyP1UfbGJM

Dvrjon · #21 02-10-2022, 6:22 AM

Cooper to announce run for sheriff today.
https://www.sacbee.com/news/local/article258215078.html

Crap. A BLM election.

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Consequently, it is expected that Cooper will draw strong support from Democrats and local leaders who either don’t like Jones or have viewed him as an unneeded distraction. If Cooper’s run is to be successful he will need the city of Sacramento to come strong for him to counteract more conservative suburbs that vote Republican even though the sheriff’s race is supposed to be non-partisan. Capt. Jim Barnes, a 22-year veteran of the Sheriff’s Office and a close Jones ally, has already announced he will run and, if past county voting trends hold, Barnes would be supported by more conservative communities north and east of the city. As proof of the highly partisan split in county voting, the Sacramento County Deputy Sheriff’s Association didn’t wait for Cooper to announce he was running for sheriff. Typically one of the biggest financial contributors in the county, the DSA announced in December that it was endorsing Barnes.

Dvrjon · #22 03-08-2022, 11:48 AM

Apparently, Jim Cooper doesn't believe the laws apply to him.

There is no exception for CCW holders or retired deputies to bring loaded, concealed firearms onto the airport grounds. Cooper should know this since he was a deputy charged with enforcing the code throughout his tenure.

Sacramento County Code of Regulations (SCC 264 § 1, 1976.) :

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9.42.040 Exemptions.

a. The prohibitions of this chapter shall not apply to any judge, sheriff, deputy sheriff, policeman, marshal, deputy marshal, member of the California Highway Patrol, member of the California State Police, agent of the Department of Justice, agent of the Bureau of Narcotics Enforcement, guard or parole officer of the State Department of Corrections or California Youth Authority, or probation officer or deputy probation officer who is acting in the course of employment and who is lawfully authorized to possess such weapons.

b. The prohibitions of this chapter do not apply to any County employee or agent of the County who is required to possess dangerous articles in order to perform County business, work or service on County premises. (SCC 264 § 1, 1976.)
9.42.050 Violation a Misdemeanor.

Any person who violates the prohibitions of this chapter shall be guilty of a misdemeanor, punishable as provided in Section 1.01.190. (SCC 264 § 1, 1976.)

TSA brought in the deputies at SMF and they were kind enough to store the weapon for Jim until he returned.

Very nice folks.

Sky_DiveR · #23 03-16-2022, 4:59 PM

Cooper is a major politition and will tell ya what ya wanna hear. Like Francis "Beto" O'Rorke. Don't believe he is anything else.

DGoodale · #24 03-16-2022, 5:44 PM

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Originally Posted by AreWeNotMen?

They LIE! Look at his voting record - gun control politician all the way. He's a nice guy, buy big fat NO for Sheriff.

Coopers a dirtbag, gun control Democrat and wannabe career politician. NO for Sheriff.

M1NM · #25 03-16-2022, 5:48 PM

The office of sheriff is a political position. He will do whatever county political muscle tells him to.

SkyHawk · #26 03-16-2022, 5:54 PM

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Originally Posted by M1NM

The office of sheriff is a political position. He will do whatever county political muscle tells him to.

Unlike a city Police Chief, the Sheriff answers only to the voters - they are the only muscle that can influence them. Just look at what is happening in LA between Villanueva and the County Commissioners if you need a living, in-progress demonstration of this.

The left would desperately like to change this, and they may yet. But for now, a Sheriff in CA is one of the last true representatives of the people they serve, who still have the power to make a difference in those folks lives.

wweigle · #27 04-07-2022, 8:09 AM

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Originally Posted by SkyHawk

Unlike a city Police Chief, the Sheriff answers only to the voters - they are the only muscle that can influence them. Just look at what is happening in LA between Villanueva and the County Commissioners if you need a living, in-progress demonstration of this.

The left would desperately like to change this, and they may yet. But for now, a Sheriff in CA is one of the last true representatives of the people they serve, who still have the power to make a difference in those folks lives.

The District Attorney is also one of the last true representatives of the people elected directly by the voters, and just as important.

robertfchew · #28 04-07-2022, 9:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scotty

Funny, we just covered this in the renewal class I took last week.

Barnes is pro ccw and believes in much of the same as Jones. Jones apparently visits the range often and speaks with the instructor.

An Elk Grove Assemblyman, Jim Cooper, is also going to be running. He's former Sac Sheriff. The instructor had people that know Cooper, including Cooper's brother, in his class. They said he's pro ccw. They said he's more of a politician so he would be the figure head of the office, while Barnes would run the day to day aspect keeping everything the same.

woulda told the brother to his face that he is lying. Like others have said Cooper is a soft on crime anti gun politician. Plus he's a moron he tried to get on a plane with a gun recently. That should disqualify him on its own. embarrassing that he used to be a sac sheriff.

GregW948 · #29 04-18-2022, 12:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dvrjon

Apparently, Jim Cooper doesn't believe the laws apply to him.

There is no exception for CCW holders or retired deputies to bring loaded, concealed firearms onto the airport grounds. Cooper should know this since he was a deputy charged with enforcing the code throughout his tenure.

Sacramento County Code of Regulations (SCC 264 § 1, 1976.) :

TSA brought in the deputies at SMF and they were kind enough to store the weapon for Jim until he returned.

Very nice folks.

Rules for Thee.. not for me!

GregW948 · #30 04-18-2022, 12:42 AM

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Originally Posted by robertfchew

woulda told the brother to his face that he is lying. Like others have said Cooper is a soft on crime anti gun politician. Plus he's a moron he tried to get on a plane with a gun recently. That should disqualify him on its own. embarrassing that he used to be a sac sheriff.

Be careful of people jumping from one elitist type of position to another... that shows they are not passionate about serving anything except themselves.. like if they go from the city council to like sheriff to like some other kind of elitist faction of civil service

L3ghtzout · #31 04-26-2022, 4:06 PM

If anyone hasn't already seen this debate, here it is.

https://www.sacbee.com/opinion/article259952280.html

thirdagecalguns · #32 05-08-2022, 10:36 AM

It's time to contribute to Barnes campaign if we like our CCW's?
https://jimbarnesforsheriff.com/

BrokerB · #33 05-08-2022, 10:41 AM

Yes..Barnes before Cooper

Pessimist · #34 05-09-2022, 4:18 PM

Been doing a lot of reading on Cooper and Barnes. Can't find any clear statement from either candidate on their stance on issuing CCWs. Figure chances are one of these two will be the next Sheriff.

Does anyone have any info on this issue?