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Font sizes will automatically shrink if you have a lot of text to enter. Please try out this version and let me know what you think. Same link as before: Removed for now - official BATFE form is now available Turby Last edited by Turbinator; 06-07-2012 at 11:59 AM.. |
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Thank you for doing this. Hopefully it will get more people to fill it out and send it in. We need to save EVERY rifle and handgun we can from those nasty 'Buy-back' events.....( Little pissed about the pictures I have seen from the last couple) |
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Yup - together we can all save a C&R firearm. ![]() Turby |
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That is because having this in a downloadable form makes it that much easier for them and us to save money and makes for even more gun owners.... I think pretty much all the kinks are worked out. Some of the check mark boxes are different size or no all in a line. Only other thing I could suggest is a full re-write so it isn't a scan, but a fresh form. I didn't look very closely at mine when I printed it, but how well do the fold marks come out? I really like how it fills out both copies. Having it scalable really helps. I can fit 3 addresses in the space now and having a line between each of them makes it come out perfect. This allows the FULL address to be typed in. I can fit 5 Full addresses in before it puts on a scroll bar. I really hope a person doesn't need more than that. Beyond the 5 it would be totally unreadable. Even at this size the font is tiny but readable. Will play with it some more, though I don't think I will find anything else. |
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The fold marks were annoying on the CLEO page, but I figured since the fold is across the credit card information area, I wasn't too concerned.
![]() If it's a big problem, I can iron out the original app form and rescan it, and see if that helps make it better. I agree, if we are going to circulate this thing worldwide all the way to Egypt, we'd better make it look professional. Glad you tested the new fonts and it works for you. This should make it much easier for those with more inputs to make the form workable. Turby |
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Running on my OSX Mac (yeah, I know, I know...
![]() 1. Name (Capital prints as 5/16" high) is bigger than 2. address (Capital prints as 4/16") 4. county, 5. telephone, 6. trade/business is VERY big (Capital prints 6/16") but it all fits in the blocks perfectly. The whole credit card name/number data block is the same (on second look, the address block is a bit smaller, barely more than 2/16"), but smaller than anything above it (Capital prints 3/16") - actually, I'd vote for all of it to be this size. The 'I am paying...' is the same size as 1. 9. information for each... is fine. (Capital prints 4/16") What's the right word for the 'position' of an individual? 'collector'? 'individual'? Name of CLEO is same size as 1. name, and Address of CLEO is larger, apparently same as 4. Still all fits in the space on the form. It's all perfectly readable and all fits on the form. Beats heck out of my handwriting!
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From looking at it as a rushed person in the ATF office view, The areas that have the largest font need to be read clearly and quickly (trying to get through a few hundred thousand apps can NOT be fun)
If any change just make all the font size the same except where it gets scaled down for space. ( I have no clue how hard that is at all ![]() |
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Ok, on the font size, I might play with that this week just to make it all uniform. Else.. I think I agree, bigger is better as along as it fits on the lines. Turby |
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Otherwise, it serves perfectly well as-is. Thanks for the work!
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I wouldn't know where to go to get the ATF to start using it. I figure if more citizens start turning in these typed forms, they'll go investigate from where it came, and then ask that way? Let's get it widely used first, then we'll go from there. Anyone want to cross post it to AR15.com and elsewhere? Turby |
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got a question... there are 7 pages in the PDF. it looks like there are 2 copies. now my question is... do i seperate the 2 copies in the pdf send1 to the BATF and 1 to the local CLEO? or do i have to send a seperate copy of the entire 7 pages to the CLEO?
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Separate the 7 pages - send the one WITHOUT credit card info to the CLEO.
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the first 2 double-sided pages (4-pages total) are the ATF copy, while the second set of 2 double-sided pages are for the CLEO.
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Now, I have a question, the instructions that I also scanned that go along with the application, I guess they aren't clear what to do? (Just checking - I don't mean this as an insult, but...) On the instruction sheet, item # 3, it tells you what to do with the CLEO copy. Did you happen to read this? Item #2 tells you what to do with the "original" copy. I only ask because I want to make sure this thing is nearly bulletproof. Thanks, Turby |
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Turby, the thing I noticed is that BATE put "copy 1 - ATF copy" and "copy 2 - CLEO" on the front of each page, since it wouldn't be needed on the back of the double-sided page. With the PDF being 7 pages, not all of them note what copy they are. Plus the red font didn't scan very dark.
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Great to hear that this works though. This should make it a lot easier for people to start getting their 03s now that they don't have to wait months just for the application.
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Awesome that we can now save the form. Well, originally I couldn't and I didn't install a new reader, so it couldn't have been on my end.
Couple little annoyances: All the "X" marks that I put on the questionaire were in the most part different sizes. I would have liked to see them all the same font size. But that's not a real issue as just part of my perfectionist-ism. In the 5 year address section, when you hit tab, it skips around. Not consecutive write blocks. ***Edit Nothing to see here, move along. haha BTW, this is fantastic for you to have done. I misplaced my green form waiting for a new job and finding out that this PDF actually works, can be typed and saved in, is just awesome. ![]() Last edited by mievil; 05-20-2009 at 10:13 PM.. |
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what for? The CoC is built into the current C&R app.
But anyways, here you go, http://www.atf.gov/forms/pdfs/f533020.pdf
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I sent mine on a Thursday and it cleared Monday. Working pretty fast over there.
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They take the money first. If it is a no-go then they refund the money.
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