HK MP5 22lr new release

[98redM6]

Anybody able to find the 10 round mags or have any for sale? I placed a backorder with primary arms but they have yet to ship out. I’m dreading the idea of having to stop shooting to reload the same mag over and over.

[zaternine]

Originally Posted by SkyHawk

Because it's a pistol that has the removable magazine outside the pistol grip. That is an assault weapon feature in CA.

It is also a pistol with a threaded barrel - which is another AW feature.

The 416-22 is a rimfire rifle so those features are ok combined with a removable mag.

There is no exemption for rimfire when it comes to AW features on pistols except for some Olympic pistols.

Don't try to make any sense of it.

Hi SkyHawk,

I have the pistol version in 22lr (I don't live in CA). But I'm moving to CA later. My question is do you think I can move to the state with this pistol as is or do I have to figure out a way to modify it? Do I also have to modify the mag to 10 rounds only?

I'm thinking in my mind this would also apply to AR pistols as well. But I don't want to give up my HK 22lr MP5 pistol. I love that thing. Thank you. -Z

[1911-CV]

Originally Posted by zaternine

Hi SkyHawk,

I have the pistol version in 22lr (I don't live in CA). But I'm moving to CA later. My question is do you think I can move to the state with this pistol as is or do I have to figure out a way to modify it?

As explained above, it is a pistol that has AW features as defined by the CA legislature. That's a no-no.

Originally Posted by zaternine

Do I also have to modify the mag to 10 rounds only?

Yes

Originally Posted by zaternine

I'm thinking in my mind this would also apply to AR pistols as well. But I don't want to give up my HK 22lr MP5 pistol. I love that thing. Thank you. -Z

You would have to look at the specific features of your other AR pistols. Looks like your HK 22lr MP5 pistol is not moving...

[SkyHawk]

Originally Posted by zaternine

Hi SkyHawk,

I have the pistol version in 22lr (I don't live in CA). But I'm moving to CA later. My question is do you think I can move to the state with this pistol as is or do I have to figure out a way to modify it? Do I also have to modify the mag to 10 rounds only?

I'm thinking in my mind this would also apply to AR pistols as well. But I don't want to give up my HK 22lr MP5 pistol. I love that thing. Thank you. -Z

AR pistols as well as this MP5 22LR pistol must be fixed mag, with the mag locked into the receiver in such a way that the firearm must be disassembled to remove the mag.

There is a mag lock device for MP5 9mm, I have no idea if it would work in the 22LR
https://maglatchusa.com/mp5-sp5k-z5-fixed-magazine-kit/

And mags must be 10rd or blocked to 10rd.

[zaternine]

Originally Posted by SkyHawk

AR pistols as well as this MP5 22LR pistol must be fixed mag, with the mag locked into the receiver in such a way that the firearm must be disassembled to remove the mag.

There is a mag lock device for MP5 9mm, I have no idea if it would work in the 22LR
https://maglatchusa.com/mp5-sp5k-z5-fixed-magazine-kit/

And mags must be 10rd or blocked to 10rd.

Thank you for the reply. So theoretically I install a mag lock & I also block the mag to only accept 1 round, would that make the pistol a single shot? Or would that be toting the line since the actual pistol is still technically semi auto? Since it's a blowback I'm wondering if I can change out the main spring to something heavier so the 22 won't be able to cycle. However be able to manually cycle the action by hand with the lever.

Just an idea I have yet to take the pistol apart. Any input would be greatly appreciated. -Z

[Wheellock]

Originally Posted by zaternine

Thank you for the reply. So theoretically I install a mag lock & I also block the mag to only accept 1 round, would that make the pistol a single shot? Or would that be toting the line since the actual pistol is still technically semi auto? Since it's a blowback I'm wondering if I can change out the main spring to something heavier so the 22 won't be able to cycle. However be able to manually cycle the action by hand with the lever.

Just an idea I have yet to take the pistol apart. Any input would be greatly appreciated. -Z

The simplest solution is to buy the rifle version, that's legal here as is, you would only need 10 round mags or block the ones you have (which is very easy with them). If you really want the pistol, then it needs to be mag locked, but you can still have 10 round mags.

[SkyHawk]

Originally Posted by zaternine

Thank you for the reply. So theoretically I install a mag lock & I also block the mag to only accept 1 round, would that make the pistol a single shot? Or would that be toting the line since the actual pistol is still technically semi auto? Since it's a blowback I'm wondering if I can change out the main spring to something heavier so the 22 won't be able to cycle. However be able to manually cycle the action by hand with the lever.

Just an idea I have yet to take the pistol apart. Any input would be greatly appreciated. -Z

There is no reason to use a mag lock and make it single shot. It can be mag locked semi auto with 10rd mag.

[1911-CV]

Didn't he say it had a threaded barrel? Pin or weld an end cap?

[SkyHawk]

Originally Posted by 1911-CV

Didn't he say it had a threaded barrel? Pin or weld an end cap?

If it has a fixed mag it can have a threaded barrel. A fixed mag is the answer to AW pistol problems. And in the case of this type of pistol which takes a mag outside the grip, it is the best answer.

Other pistols with a threaded barrel that use a mag inside the grip (like a Mk23 for example) have better options than a fixed mag. Although pin/weld an end cap is very low on the list of options for most guns of this type, because that typically will capture the barrel forever into the slide. Better is a replacement barrel without threads, and if that is not possible then turn down the threads. Some gun designs like Ruger Mk series and 1911 can get away with pin/weld end cap though.

[yokron]

12 c 452’s

[Tallboy1]

Does anyone that bought theirs have buyers remorse? I haven't really ever bought a plinking gun before, I can't tell if its just going to sit in my closet or if its worth the trouble of trying to find it.

[805thRCTank]

Originally Posted by Tallboy1

Does anyone that bought theirs have buyers remorse? I haven't really ever bought a plinking gun before, I can't tell if its just going to sit in my closet or if its worth the trouble of trying to find it.

No buyer’s remorse for me. I have the first release A5 variant and is my first rifle. Though I continue to contemplate getting more mags as I only have 2.

[mej16489]

No regrets...at some stage I'll SBR my A5 and put a can on it.

[SDRider858]

Originally Posted by Tallboy1

Does anyone that bought theirs have buyers remorse? I haven't really ever bought a plinking gun before, I can't tell if its just going to sit in my closet or if its worth the trouble of trying to find it.

You won’t regret buying one. If you do, selling it in the marketplace would be relatively easy.

[Sure Shot 45]

Instock at Primary Arms 10 round $399

https://www.primaryarms.com/heckler-...In_Stock_Email

[heavyhaulin818]

Yes, I would look at mine in the safe and ask myself why I even wasted my time/money on one. It’s heavy, clunky, the stock is too short when fully extended that it feels like it’s made for an 8 year old child, hated the annoying sound of the faux can every time it came in contact with another object like a pillow etc. My GSG 16-22 is a much better choice and have kept that one. The HK is now long gone, sold brand new/unfired and with several extra mags...no regrets getting rid of it.

[12pewpew]

Originally Posted by heavyhaulin818

Yes, I would look at mine in the safe and ask myself why I even wasted my time/money on one. It’s heavy, clunky, the stock is too short when fully extended that it feels like it’s made for an 8 year old child, hated the annoying sound of the faux can every time it came in contact with another object like a pillow etc. My GSG 16-22 is a much better choice and have kept that one. The HK is now long gone, sold brand new/unfired and with several extra mags...no regrets getting rid of it.

So you never even shot the gun but sold it because it's a piece of crap. Got it!

[heavyhaulin818]

I don’t believe I ever stated it was a piece of crap but in comparison to my GSG’s...it just fell short of ideal for me. I can store an extra mag in the stock on the GSG (a plus in the middle of the nyte...for me), the GSG comes with rails around the handguard HK doesn’t. At full extension, the GSG still feels comfortable and with a good cheek weld...grab an HK and try the same...you’ll quickly dislike it. GSG mags are more easily available. The GSG is a little lighter with more even balance, the HK is front heavy (not to mention noisy if you bump the faux can into anything) and requires more effort to bring up to view. They are both .22 lr and not precision rifles so I didn’t have to shoot it to realize which two was the better of both to me. You may like yours and that is great, I regret buying mine and sold, with the money I purchased a CZ 457 and never looked back at HK again.

[wyu8819]

10 Round Magazines in stock at Euro Optic at $26.99

https://www.eurooptic.com/HK-MP5-22-...-51000213.aspx


10 Round Magazines in stock at GrabAGun $27.49

https://grabagun.com/magazines/rifle...ts-hk-mp5.html

10 Round Magazines in stock at Omaha Outdoors for $35

https://www.omahaoutdoors.com/51000213/

[wyu8819]

Sportsman’s Warehouse has them back in stock for $499.99 if anyone is looking for one:

https://www.sportsmans.com/shooting-...m_medium=email


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[12pewpew]

I have a ton of 10/25 OEM mags for this gun if anyone is interested.

[SoCal Choppas]

HK MP5-22 10 round mags back instock! and decent prices:

CDNN: https://www.cdnnsports.com/magazines...-magazine.html
Gunmag Warehouse: https://gunmagwarehouse.com/hk-mp5-2...-magazine.html

[stormvet]

Originally Posted by SoCal Choppas

HK MP5-22 10 round mags back instock! and decent prices:

CDNN: https://www.cdnnsports.com/magazines...-magazine.html
Gunmag Warehouse: https://gunmagwarehouse.com/hk-mp5-2...-magazine.html

Yup just ordered four of the 25 round mags, they raised the price by $5. Supply and demand, I paid it.

[stormvet]

Question for those running a red dot on these.

I’m running a Sig Romero 1 on mine with the AR riser, it’s see through so I have access to the iron sights too. But I’m not crazy about how high it sits on the gun.

I’m thinking about going with the low mount, my concerns are a cluttered sight picture and not co witnessing. I’m probably going to try it that way next time I hit the range. Especially now that I have five mags, constantly loading one mag was a pain, darn gun empties them in seconds.

Interested in knowing how you all run yours, likes and dislikes based on optic height. Never owned a MP 5 type gun before, so this is all pretty new to me.

[jmpeal]

Originally Posted by stormvet

Question for those running a red dot on these.

I’m running a Sig Romero 1 on mine with the AR riser, it’s see through so I have access to the iron sights too. But I’m not crazy about how high it sits on the gun.

I’m thinking about going with the low mount, my concerns are a cluttered sight picture and not co witnessing. I’m probably going to try it that way next time I hit the range. Especially now that I have five mags, constantly loading one mag was a pain, darn gun empties them in seconds.

Interested in knowing how you all run yours, likes and dislikes based on optic height. Never owned a MP 5 type gun before, so this is all pretty new to me.

I thought when I put a TRS25 on mine that with no mount it was at a bad angle for me. Too low and/or the front post was going to be in the way some. Regardless I had a few different sized mounts, so I put on the smaller riser I had. Just enough to clear the post, but good cheek weld.

[jmpeal]

Also, just in case anyone was wanting one. Back in stock at SW. This is in black, but I did see a FDE one earlier this month too.
https://www.sportsmans.com/shooting-...gn=Custom+Link

[Norcalkid]

Just saw this thread, have an older one. It runs well.


But it doesn't look like any of the ones pictured. It has a more narrow can with dimples on it. I think it's a 2015 or 16 model?

[stormvet]

Originally Posted by Norcalkid

Just saw this thread, have an older one. It runs well.


But it doesn't look like any of the ones pictured. It has a more narrow can with dimples on it. I think it's a 2015 or 16 model?

The first ones where made by GSG I believe, H&K sicked their lawyers on them and they had to stop making them.

The newer ones are made by Umarex for H&K. A little different but basically the same thing.

I’ve got over 1000 rounds down range with mine, things just run and eat whatever cheap ammo you feed it. I have the rifle and am seriously thinking of picking up the pistol too.

[SDRider858]

Originally Posted by Norcalkid

Just saw this thread, have an older one. It runs well.


But it doesn't look like any of the ones pictured. It has a more narrow can with dimples on it. I think it's a 2015 or 16 model?

You’re referring to the A5 model that is no longer offered. If the faux can has dimples it’s a walther.

The pre law suit GSG-5 that’s mentioned above would have a smooth faux can, no dimples.

[Norcalkid]

Originally Posted by stormvet

The first ones where made by GSG I believe, H&K sicked their lawyers on them and they had to stop making them.

The newer ones are made by Umarex for H&K. A little different but basically the same thing.

I’ve got over 1000 rounds down range with mine, things just run and eat whatever cheap ammo you feed it. I have the rifle and am seriously thinking of picking up the pistol too.

No, it was made by Walther

PXL_20221222_234139114 by Norcalkid, on Flickr

[stormvet]

A quick search shows that Umarex was involved with the Walther guns too. Looks like besides some small cosmetic differences and some versions having a little less plastic then others these guns are all one and the same.

[Pocket Rocket]

I know I may be answering my own questions here, but this whole ATF pistol brace ruling has no effect on the HK MP5 .22 rifle, or the GSG-522 version, because they're sold as rifles correct?

Feel like a dummy having to ask, and I know there are pistol versions, but I m only referring to the rifle versions.

[SDRider858]

Originally Posted by Pocket Rocket

I know I may be answering my own questions here, but this whole ATF pistol brace ruling has no effect on the HK MP5 .22 rifle, or the GSG-522 version, because they're sold as rifles correct?

Feel like a dummy having to ask, and I know there are pistol versions, but I m only referring to the rifle versions.

Correct, no impact on the rifle versions of either the GSG or HK.