Expats NFA picture & discussion thread!

[EBR Works]

Originally Posted by mej16489

WOW, I haven't seen a C-More sight in 20+ years...maybe I don't get out enough. What is that at the bottom of the mag well? Some extra flaring?

Magwell extension. I have four C-More optics on various competition guns. The interchangeable dot module is a great feature. 2-16 MOA. The plastic models do need to be re-zeroed occasionally.

[sigstroker]

Originally Posted by EBR Works

Sig MPX built for USPSA and Steel Challenge:


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There's pcc Steel Challenge?

[EBR Works]

Originally Posted by sigstroker

There's pcc Steel Challenge?

Yes.

https://uspsa.org/viewer/2021-SCSA-R...March-2021.pdf

6.7 Pistol Caliber Carbine Open to carbines shooting pistol caliber cartridges (9mm/.38 special/.40 S&W/10 MM/.357 Sig/.45 ACP). For competitions only in countries where common military calibers are prohibited, .380 ACP is allowed.

There are two equipment divisions:

6.7.1 Pistol Caliber Carbine Open: This is the Pistol Caliber Carbine race division. All legal Pistol Caliber Carbines, to include short-barreled rifles, are allowed. Optics and Compensators are specifically allowed, suppressors are not allowed.

6.7.2 Pistol Caliber Carbine Iron Sights: Any iron-sighted rifle without optic sights. Fiber-optic inserts are specifically allowed.

[mej16489]

Its odd that they disallow suppressors...although I suppose the weight would limit muzzle rise and be an advantage. Do they do the same oddball ready where the 'buttstock' touches the hip (some of these gun game rules really crack me up) Don't get me wrong...I like gun games too, but I swear that sometimes the rules are as bizarre as progressive gun laws.

[EBR Works]

The issue with suppressors is that they typically don't activate the shot timer for an accurate score. My local club used to allow them for their steel challenge "style" matches and it was very problematic.

For USPSA, sometimes the ready position for PCC is buttstock on hip, sometimes low ready pointed to a painted mark down range or muzzle touching a mark on a barricade. It all depends how the stage was set up.

For true Steel Challenge matches, always on the standard low ready aim point, 2' high and 10 feet in front of the shooter.

[mej16489]

In my experience suppressors simply require the person with the timer to be much more diligent about catching action noise. Similarly, catching dry-fire from a hammer fired pistol isn't a problem if diligent.

Effectively the same problem with people shooting bunny-farts in cowboy action shooting. That results everything being 'Rifle not last'

[joefrank64k]

Originally Posted by mej16489

WOW, I haven't seen a C-More sight in 20+ years...maybe I don't get out enough. What is that at the bottom of the mag well? Some extra flaring?

The C-More comes on the current Czechmate, too.

https://cz-usa.com/product/cz-75-ts-czechmate-9mm/

[joefrank64k]

Originally Posted by EBR Works

Thanks! At the Big Sandy shoot a few years ago. It was an expensive weekend!:


https://youtu.be/ultyDhsFx3Y
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EBR, you win the thread again, haha!!

[EBR Works]

Not really looking to "win" the thread. Just trying to provide entertainment/motivation for all.

[nitroxdiver]

Suppressed HK MR556/m27 IAR clone. Making the worlds heaviest AR even heavier by attaching a couple pounds to the muzzle!!!!

[nitroxdiver]

Originally Posted by EBR Works

Not really looking to "win" the thread. Just trying to provide entertainment/motivation for all.

You definitely do thank you!!

[EBR Works]

Originally Posted by nitroxdiver

Suppressed HK MR556/m27 IAR clone. Making the worlds heaviest AR even heavier by attaching a couple pounds to the muzzle!!!!

That thing is a beast! How much does it weigh? Needs a 100 round Surefire mag!

[EBR Works]

Another something for lawn clearance:

[nitroxdiver]

Originally Posted by EBR Works

That thing is a beast! How much does it weigh? Needs a 100 round Surefire mag!

A ton!! Definitely not something I’d want to run around and do a bunch of room clearing drills with. It’s awesome for laying down prone and popping steel or whistle pigs though.

[beanz2]

Originally Posted by EBR Works

Another something for lawn clearance:

Whoa! That is cool! What ammo does it shoot?

[EBR Works]

Originally Posted by beanz2

Whoa! That is cool! What ammo does it shoot?

7.62x51mm. Cyclic is 1200 rpm or 20 rds/sec. Shooting with the bipod makes for quite a shove on the shoulder!

[beanz2]

Wow, .308 buzz saw. Does it hurt on the shoulder as much as it does on the pocket?

[sigstroker]

MG42's are pretty easy on the shoulder. Wallet, not so much.

[keepitlow]

Originally Posted by EBR Works

Just for disclosure, most of ours are post 86 dealer samples, so 1/5th or less the cost of transferrable guns now. The M11 above was $650 on GB a few years ago as a no law letter post sample. Today NLLPS guns sell for substantially more. For those wondering "how can I do that?", you have to be an 07FFL/02SOT to buy them. If you are in a free state, do it!

Yes, but you have to get rid if them if you lose or give up license, They are good if you like cheap shooters while you are licensed.

[keepitlow]

Originally Posted by EBR Works

7.62x51mm. Cyclic is 1200 rpm or 20 rds/sec. Shooting with the bipod makes for quite a shove on the shoulder!

Gotta have $ to feed it.

[keepitlow]

Originally Posted by EBR Works

You send the money for it and we'll take good care of it until you leave CA and get your FFL07/SOT2. Since it's a pre-sample, could then be transferred to you on a form 3.

We already have one like it, so it wouldn't be shot, that much.

A mg dealer in the Rustbelt had a couple of transferable full auto M5s. I think he wanted $23k each. That was a few years ago. Don't know if higher or lower now. He had some Thompson too. Wanted about $25k each.

[EBR Works]

Originally Posted by keepitlow

Yes, but you have to get rid if them if you lose or give up license, They are good if you like cheap shooters while you are licensed.

No problem there. Since SOTs cannot build MG anymore without paying ITAR as of April of 2020, the no law letter post sample market has exploded in value. Just go on GunBroker and search on "no law letter" in machine guns for dealers going out of business or changing their entities.

[EBR Works]

Originally Posted by keepitlow

Gotta have $ to feed it.

Short bursts are optimal. Still expensive!

CalGunner SVT-40 showing how it's done. 50 round belt.



https://youtu.be/59A4-4Bh8wA

[nitroxdiver]

Man that thing absolutely rips!

[EBR Works]

SVT-40 again getting a few hits on a 12x12 steel plate at 200 yards. Gun on the ground mount, weighted down with about 100lbs:



https://youtu.be/9_sjS4g3po8
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[SVT-40]

Originally Posted by EBR Works

Short bursts are optimal. Still expensive!

CalGunner SVT-40 showing how it's done. 50 round belt.



https://youtu.be/59A4-4Bh8wA

LOL.. I remember that day! Of which we will never speak...

Good times and no one was hurt during the shooting of any firearms that day...

LOL

[audiophil2]

Originally Posted by keepitlow

Yes, but you have to get rid if them if you lose or give up license, They are good if you like cheap shooters while you are licensed.

The nice thing about getting rid of them is you usually made thousands off rentals and can afford to buy full transferables. I paid $5k for my mg42 back in 2017. I sold it for $15k when I surrendered my sot. I made about $500 each time I rented it.

My post sample rentals paid off my 10 acres gun range in a year. Now the land is worth almost 10x what I paid.

[EBR Works]

A customer with our G17/auto sear gun in a Gen1 Roni:

[bhp1410]

First can as an ex-californian. Took almost 13 months for the Form 4 to get stamped. Still can't believe it!

[Mac Attack]

Congratulations on your new CGC MOD9. I have a MOD9 and it’s a great suppressor. Light, balances well, is very good on sound reduction aka quiet and has a nice low tone when shot on my pistols and PCCs.

[Capybara]

Originally Posted by EBR Works

A customer with our G17/auto sear gun in a Gen1 Roni:

Ha, ha, that's my son. That was an amazing day with you EBR Works, we all had big smiles on our face that day.

[scout II]

Originally Posted by bhp1410

First can as an ex-californian. Took almost 13 months for the Form 4 to get stamped. Still can't believe it!

How do you like shooting the Ruger carbine with the can? Do you use the heavy 147 grain ammo in it? I will be taking my Ruger carbine with my can out for a try in a few weeks.

[sigstroker]

147's usually go supersonic in a barrel that long.

[EBR Works]

Originally Posted by Capybara

Ha, ha, that's my son. That was an amazing day with you EBR Works, we all had big smiles on our face that day.

That was a fantastic day!

[EBR Works]

A homely Israeli commando girl born in the mid 50's that has had a tough life:



CalGunner SVT-40 gently taking her for a ride:



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[sigstroker]

Originally Posted by EBR Works

A homely Israeli commando girl born in the mid 50's that has had a tough life:



CalGunner SVT-40 gently taking her for a ride:



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Looks like a beauty to me. I did the jungle walk at Knob with one. They give you two full mags to finish it. Apparently a lot of shooters are very bad and use up all that ammo. I had one of the best times and only used about 5 rounds of the second mag. I used to have a semi-auto but foolishly sold it because it was boring.

In an unfortunate bit of irony, when new Vectors (Uzi clone) were available my interests had drifted towards an even stupider and more expensive hobby (cars) and I could easily have bought many full-auto Uzis with the money I had saved for a much stupider car. By the time my interests had drifted back to machine guns, availability had disappeared.

[EBR Works]

Originally Posted by sigstroker

Looks like a beauty to me. I did the jungle walk at Knob with one. They give you two full mags to finish it. Apparently a lot of shooters are very bad and use up all that ammo. I had one of the best times and only used about 5 rounds of the second mag. I used to have a semi-auto but foolishly sold it because it was boring.

In an unfortunate bit of irony, when new Vectors (Uzi clone) were available my interests had drifted towards an even stupider and more expensive hobby (cars) and I could easily have bought many full-auto Uzis with the money I had saved for a much stupider car. By the time my interests had drifted back to machine guns, availability had disappeared.

Very cool! Wish I had made the trip to KC before the end. There's always the Big Sandy shoot twice per year with similar events, about a 2 hour drive from here.
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[sigstroker]

Originally Posted by EBR Works

Very cool! Wish I had made the trip to KC before the end. There's always the Big Sandy shoot twice per year with similar events, about a 2 hour drive from here.
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The Jungle Walk was cool, I imagine you can find youtubes. You walk along the creek, which is semi-jungle like (can't do that at Big Sandy) and find targets along the path. Sort of like Hogan's Alley. Bang the plates when you see them. There are also targets in the creek, which you're supposed to hose with a continuous burst.

[Mac Attack]

I take it you guys have all seen the big price drop in Century Arm imported MKE AP5 MP5 clones. I already have a MP5K clone and when the prices dropped I decided it needed a big brother so I bought one for $1,179 from Atlantic Arms. It should get here tomorrow.

My plan is to SBR it and install a fat handguard and A2 fixed stock. Anyone have an old A2 stock they are not using?

[EBR Works]

Adams Arms piston upper select-fire build:



Polymer lower .22LR select-fire build with CMMG trip and anti-bounce parts: