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Old 05-19-2022, 2:45 PM
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Heckler & Koch HK MP5KA1 9mm Submachine Gun - Pre86 Dealer Sample

You send the money for it and we'll take good care of it until you leave CA and get your FFL07/SOT2. Since it's a pre-sample, could then be transferred to you on a form 3.

We already have one like it, so it wouldn't be shot, that much.
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Heckler & Koch HK MP5KA1 9mm Submachine Gun - Pre86 Dealer Sample

Have to be a machine gun dealer to buy a dealer sample. You don't want a K anyway, they fire at about 1000 rounds per minute.
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HK MK23 and rugged Obsidian 45. Great combo. Super quiet.
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HK MK23 and rugged Obsidian 45. Great combo. Super quiet.
Nice! We have a MK23 with an Octane. Fun to shoot .45 tracers!
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Nice! We have a MK23 with an Octane. Fun to shoot .45 tracers!

I need to pick up some .45 tracer sometime. I remember watching old wwII training films with guys shooting them out of 1911’s during point shoot pistol training. Very cool.
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Nice! We have a MK23 with an Octane. Fun to shoot .45 tracers!
Friggin rich kids! I only have a Glock 21 with an Octane.

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An 11.5" SBR build for local multi-gun competition that allows suppressors:

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An 11.5" SBR build for local multi-gun competition that allows suppressors:

Looks a lot like what I had planned except for the drum. I was also thinking about a red dot. How long are the longest shots.
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Looks a lot like what I had planned except for the drum. I was also thinking about a red dot. How long are the longest shots.
250 yards on steel. Easy.
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I need to up my game...

Been here in GA three months and bought:

Sig 365
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and a PSA 11.5 AR pistol

Need to look into cans next.

and this thread is drool worthy.
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I finally put my SBR together. Here it is with my Ron Williams DI 45 acp upper with 11.5" barrel and my Octane 45 suppressor. It uses Uzi mags. I wish it used Grese Gun mags as they are easier and cheaper to get. But I have enough Uzi mags for now.


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How well does it work? Is it gassy with the can?
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How well does it work? Is it gassy with the can?
I haven't had a chance to get it to the range yet. I am hoping to by next weekend. I will report how it works after I try her out.
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Tax stamp #2 arrived today. Paper form 4. 381 days door to door. Rugged surge 7.62. One more to go in the next few weeks.
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Tax stamp #2 arrived today. Paper form 4. 381 days door to door. Rugged surge 7.62. One more to go in the next few weeks.
Hope you do a product review. What are you planning to use it on? I need a new can that can handle supers out of a Rattler.
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Tax stamp #2 arrived today. Paper form 4. 381 days door to door. Rugged surge 7.62. One more to go in the next few weeks.
That's good news. I am getting ready to purchase a 7.62 can in the next week or so, and am leaning towards that same one, but still looking at the Banish 30, and the Omega 300.
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Old 06-03-2022, 7:06 AM
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Hope you do a product review. What are you planning to use it on? I need a new can that can handle supers out of a Rattler.
Im going to shoot it on my bergara 6.5 cm, scar 17, HK MR556, Colt m4a1 block II sopmod, and x95. It is a heavy suppressor. Stainless tube and stellite baffles. It's built for maximum durability and sound suppression. Trading off weight and size. It can be made shorter by removing the front adapt module which has three baffles in it I believe, and installing the front cap back on. You'll loose some sound suppression doing that but save some weight and length. It's belt fed rated and has no barrel length limitations. If i ever manage to roach it, Rugged will repair it for free. I can't imagine supersonic 300 bo would be any issue for the surge, regardless of barrel length on your rattler. However, a quick email to Rugged would likely get you an answer from the horses mouth.
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That's good news. I am getting ready to purchase a 7.62 can in the next week or so, and am leaning towards that same one, but still looking at the Banish 30, and the Omega 300.
Scout, if you are just now getting ready to buy, you'll likely do it via E-file form 4 (electronic file).
Mine were all paper form 4's before the new E-file system was in place. Picking up my stuff yesterday, there was a guy picking up a can he E-filed and it only took 4 months. I hope yours gets approved just a s quickly.

On the surge, just know you are trading weight and size for maximum durability and sound suppression. It's an older design, rugged's first. It's still a great can and one of the quietest on the market supposedly, just heavy because the tube is stainless steel. The welded in baffles are stellite.

I also really like Rugged's mounting system and muzzle devices, and the ability to convert them into "k" or short configuration. They're two cans in one. Their warranty is second to none also. Run over it with your truck, they don't care. So long as the serialized blast chamber section is intact, they'll rebuild it.

Go check out Independence Indoor range in Meridian. They have a surge in stock currently.

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Im going to shoot it on my bergara 6.5 cm, scar 17, HK MR556, Colt m4a1 block II sopmod, and x95. It is a heavy suppressor. Stainless tube and stellite baffles. It's built for maximum durability and sound suppression. Trading off weight and size. It can be made shorter by removing the front adapt module which has three baffles in it I believe, and installing the front cap back on. You'll loose some sound suppression doing that but save some weight and length. It's belt fed rated and has no barrel length limitations. If i ever manage to roach it, Rugged will repair it for free. I can't imagine supersonic 300 bo would be any issue for the surge, regardless of barrel length on your rattler. However, a quick email to Rugged would likely get you an answer from the horses mouth.
I've looked at it on their website before. It's expensive because it's modular. $1300-ish is a tough pill to swallow when my Resonator was 3 hundred and change. I could burn up 4 of them before I paid for a Surge.

I'd probably consider a smaller one because adding a lot of weight to a Rattler seems sub-optimal.
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I also have a modular can. Sorta. I did it the Polish way, buying a Resonator and Resonator K. Both were under $700 I think.

They each have their attributes. The K is not as quiet but has few baffles and creates less back pressure, so it can go on my gassy, or short guns. The Resonator is quieter but with more back pressure, so it goes on bolt guns and less gassy AR's. When I was trying to decide which one to get, I realized the above, and took the calguns route and got both.
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I've looked at it on their website before. It's expensive because it's modular. $1300-ish is a tough pill to swallow when my Resonator was 3 hundred and change. I could burn up 4 of them before I paid for a Surge.

I'd probably consider a smaller one because adding a lot of weight to a Rattler seems sub-optimal.
Street price on the surge is around $990, but I hear what your saying. I wanted a one and done rifle can that'll last through my grandchildrens life. If light weight is your goal, the surge isn't for you I'm afraid.
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EBR, that Ma Duece is amazing!!!!
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EBR, that Ma Duece is amazing!!!!

Thanks! At the Big Sandy shoot a few years ago. It was an expensive weekend!:


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Oh I imagine hahaha. We have the Idaho automatic weapons collectors assoc here and I go to most of their shoots. Holy crap do those dudes burn through a mountain of ammo.
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Pretty sweet stuff in here. Keep it coming.

The expats sub-forum is a tough place to browse if you aren’t an expat. Thank you for your support instead of criticism. Many/most of us did our time in Ca attempting to slow/stall/change the ever increasing infringement on civil rights by the state government. A lot of us became internet friends on CG over the years prior, and continue to support and enjoy 2A in new locations. Expats is a nice place for us to continue to socialize. Thanks for stopping by
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Thanks! At the Big Sandy shoot a few years ago. It was an expensive weekend!:
Heh, when I was selling off my stash of fifty, I kept one can of API/APIT just in case I ran across a guy with a ma deuce.
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Street price on the surge is around $990, but I hear what your saying. I wanted a one and done rifle can that'll last through my grandchildrens life. If light weight is your goal, the surge isn't for you I'm afraid.
No such thing in the silencer world. Technology is still improving. Case in point - the new SIG military cans. Obviously they are built to handle a lot of full-auto fire, but they are also designed to be ungassy. They're 3d printed so they have very complex baffling. Their civilian line is also 3d printed and I wish someone would do some reviews/testing on them already.
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My last 2 paper form 4s were approved after close to a year on both. They were basically month apart from ‘check cashed’ and both were approved by the same person on the same day. I had heard about batch approvals where people are getting 2+ silencers approved at the same time even though they were submitted months apart. I think the ATF is trying to get through all the legacy paper submissions so that they can focus on efile submissions.

Anyways, I had a chance to shoot my YHM R9 and Dead Air Mask and they are good to go. I’m already planning out my next purchase for another dedicated PCC can and am thinking about the GSL Phoenix, Wolfman or the Resilient RS9. Which ever one I pick will be my first venture into the form 4 efile.

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No such thing in the silencer world. Technology is still improving. Case in point - the new SIG military cans. Obviously they are built to handle a lot of full-auto fire, but they are also designed to be ungassy. They're 3d printed so they have very complex baffling. Their civilian line is also 3d printed and I wish someone would do some reviews/testing on them already.

Of for sure, constantly evolving. I meant one and done centerfire rifle can for me personally. One that’ll cover all my rifle calibers i want to silence, and have the durability and warranty to handle any misfortune I may have with it. One that’s been proven tough enough to last generations. The surge is that for me. Now that said, I may, big maybe, still buy a dead air wolverine since it’s such a good clone copy of a combloc AK suppressor. I think it would be fun to have one.
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My last 2 paper form 4s were approved. They were basically month apart from ‘check cashed’ and both were approved by the same person on the same day. I had heard about batch approvals where people are getting 2+ silencers approved at the same time even though they were submitted months apart. I think the ATF is trying to get through all the legacy paper submissions so that they can focus on efile submissions.

Anyways, I had a chance to shoot my YHM R9 and Dead Air Mask and they are good to go. I’m already planning out my next purchase for another dedicated PCC can and am thinking about the GSL Phoenix, Wolfman or the Resilient RS9. Which ever one I pick will be my first venture into the form 4 efile.

I’ve been hearing similar stories at my shop. Batch approval. I was so hoping that would happen to me hahaha. I had three in the queue, all one month apart. Well, as luck would have it, I got the processor that doesn’t do batch approvals.
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Of for sure, constantly evolving. I meant one and done centerfire rifle can for me personally. One that’ll cover all my rifle calibers i want to silence, and have the durability and warranty to handle any misfortune I may have with it. One that’s been proven tough enough to last generations. The surge is that for me. Now that said, I may, big maybe, still buy a dead air wolverine since it’s such a good clone copy of a combloc AK suppressor. I think it would be fun to have one.
Sure, just one can covers all your needs. Where have I heard that before? Oh yeah, when I said I just need a .45 pistol can for all pistols and .300 Blackout, and a .223 can. Famous last words...

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I’ve been hearing similar stories at my shop. Batch approval. I was so hoping that would happen to me hahaha. I had three in the queue, all one month apart. Well, as luck would have it, I got the processor that doesn’t do batch approvals.
Sounds like the unicorn and the smoking hot chick that likes guys for their sense of humor. I've had 4 cans in the queue and they are taking as long as ever.
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