PSA ak47??

[robledor]

Hello calgunners,
I am looking for a shooter. I want a ak47 that is cheap...I'll wait to see if prices go precovid, having said that.
..PSA ak47 good or better options for same or a little more money? Or should I spend and get a arsenal or a definite arms AK?

[brey6290]

Haven't shot one personally but I've heard good things about PSAs AKs from a few friends that have them.

[comifornia:(]

I would look for a used Wasr over the PSA.

[Nestor]

arsenal? LMFAO

if you’re waiting for prices to come
back down to pre-covid levels or from PSA, i’m certain an Arsenal is going to be way out of your budget.

[Maulerrr]

Which PSA are you looking at? Their newest models for 2019 and 2020 will be good for the casual shooter.

But id also recommend looking for a wasr if you don't mind taking the time

[2761377]

highly recommend RobSki's videos from AK Operators Union. he has done 5000 round torture tests on several PSA AK's.

YouTube for sure, maybe Full30

[naz]

Arsenal $1.8k plus tax and dros. Seems like sam7sf is the one that’s available

https://thinlineweapons.com/wiki/ind...ms/Kalashnikov


Apparently psa is “The first USA made that won’t kill its user”

[PogoJack]

I had one. The GF3.They are G2G.

How's about Lee Armory? They make them from combloc military kits and add 922r parts. Like a high quality Century Arms.

https://www.cordeliagunexchange.com/...es/lee-armory/

https://www.guns.com/news/2019/08/21...lee-armory-akm


Rob Ski Test - G2G

https://youtu.be/WyYRUvnfZwA



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[Bobby Ricigliano]

I didn't see their review of the Zastava ZPAP until I had already bought one. It was a relief that they gave it a good rating.

AK Operators Union is the counterbalance for all the people who buy an AK, put 200-300 rounds through it, and then blather online about how incredibly durable and reliable the platform is.

There is somewhat of a silver lining in having an AK fail and break on you. You learn that it can actually happen and that build quality is all over the place from one mfg to another.

[JoshlikesARs]

Originally Posted by robledor

Hello calgunners,
I am looking for a shooter. I want a ak47 that is cheap...I'll wait to see if prices go precovid, having said that.
..PSA ak47 good or better options for same or a little more money? Or should I spend and get a arsenal or a definite arms AK?

Save up and look for a Combloc rifle new or used such as a...

WASR10 (Romania)
OPAP (Siberia)
SAIGA (Russian)
Arsenal Sam7R (Bulgaria)
Arsenal Sam7SF (Bulgaria)
WBP (Polish)
etc.

Normally I would say American made guns are great, but not on this platform. If cheap is a HUGE factor then get a WASR10.

[naz]

Originally Posted by Bobby Ricigliano

There is somewhat of a silver lining in having an AK fail and break on you. You learn that it can actually happen and that build quality is all over the place from one mfg to another.

as long as you don’t get one that breaks by blowing up on you, right?

[Jarhead]

Combloc AK’s running around the world never having been cleaned in 30 years

[naz]

Originally Posted by JoshlikesARs

Save up and look for a Combloc rifle new or used such as a...

WASR10 (Romania)
OPAP (Siberia)
SAIGA (Russian)
Arsenal Sam7R (Bulgaria)
Arsenal Sam7SF (Bulgaria)
WBP (Polish)
etc.

Normally I would say American made guns are great, but not on this platform. If cheap is a HUGE factor then get a WASR10.

Did you mean Serbia for Opap (Zastava)? I’m liking my zpap m70 so far!

For American made, if you just want to shoot cheap 30 cal cartridges, my $0.02 would be a 7.62x39 AR upper. I have a bear creek upper that was $316 shipped, and has 300blk feedramps in the barrel extension, and it’s been great with c product magazines

[jmf_tracy]

Zastava ZPAP M70 for the win. Many great reviews out there. Check out Rob Ski AKOU.

[beanz2]

How about the Galil ACE in 7.62x39?

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[Jarhead]

How about the Chicom AK / Type56?

How do they stack up on your list?

[robledor]

I'm getting a galil but the OG one in 5.56.

[robledor]

Im ok with a type 56 or chicom ak

[dok]

My psa ak had to go back due to a headspace problem-they fixed it and it is an excellent shooter.

[SanDiego619]

I've had good experience with PSA in the product and especially customer service. How much are they? Atlantic WASRs were 900 or so, not sure what they are now.

[Bobby Ricigliano]

FWIW, the Standard AK configuration is easily made featureless if you are in CA.

[Bobby Ricigliano]

Originally Posted by naz

as long as you don’t get one that breaks by blowing up on you, right?

Yes, right. Guns that blow up are bad. Unless it is caused by a squib. But those are bad too.

[Maulerrr]

OP On second thought get one of those zastava M70's with the fat boi bulged trunnion

[robledor]

Yeah I'm gonna take the pistol grip off and the flash hider. Keep it featureless...

[kcheung2]

Originally Posted by SanDiego619

I've had good experience with PSA in the product and especially customer service. How much are they? Atlantic WASRs were 900 or so, not sure what they are now.

The PSA GF4 I bought recently was $800, and after all conversions, fees, middlemen, etc it was about $1050 to get it in my hands. Sadly I still haven't had a chance to shoot it yet.

If you can find what you want from Atlantic, that would be the cheaper option since they can Californize it in-house for just $35 so that cuts out the middleman costs.

[Quiet]

Originally Posted by Maulerrr

OP On second thought get one of those zastava M70's with the fat boi bulged trunnion

Century Arms imported the Zastava O-PAP and N-PAP.

Both, the O-PAP and N-PAP have been discontinued and Century Arms is no longer the importer for Zastava made firearms.

Zastava was displeased with Century Arms, so they established a US company (Zastava USA).
^Issues with how Century Arms modified the firearms to be 922r compliant.

Originally, the Zasatava Z-PAP was being imported in and it was similar to the N-PAP.

Then after market requests, Zastava changed the Z-PAP so that it is similar to the O-PAP.

The current version of the Z-PAP and the discontinued O-PAP, both have the RPK recevier/trunnions.

The current version of the Zastava Z-PAP M70 is considered the best version of any imported Serbian made AK style rifle.


I recommend the Zastava Z-PAP M70 over the Century Arms imported Romanian made WASR-10.
But, would rather have a Palmetto State Armory AK-E or AK-103 over the Zastava Z-PAP M70.

[robledor]

Wow awesome to hear everyone's opinion... 😁😁

[SanDiego619]

Originally Posted by kcheung2

The PSA GF4 I bought recently was $800, and after all conversions, fees, middlemen, etc it was about $1050 to get it in my hands. Sadly I still haven't had a chance to shoot it yet.

If you can find what you want from Atlantic, that would be the cheaper option since they can Californize it in-house for just $35 so that cuts out the middleman costs.

My WASR was just a little less than that after conversion and taxes and fees and such. In that case, I'd wait for a WASR. If the PSA was way cheaper like 500 bucks then yeah, but if they are almost the same price I'd rather get a (former) soviet weapon, because vodka

[spfabrication]

I originally wanted an Arsenal slr107 , but after watching Rob Ski's review of it and reading tons of other reviews online , I bought my first AK and my first PSA product. FN barreled PSAK 103.

[L.A. Saiga]

Originally Posted by JoshlikesARs

Save up and look for a Combloc rifle new or used such as a...

WASR10 (Romania)
OPAP (Siberia)
SAIGA (Russian)
Arsenal Sam7R (Bulgaria)
Arsenal Sam7SF (Bulgaria)
WBP (Polish)
etc.

Normally I would say American made guns are great, but not on this platform. If cheap is a HUGE factor then get a WASR10.

I agree with Josh

[Jarhead]

Originally Posted by spfabrication

I originally wanted an Arsenal slr107 , but after watching Rob Ski's review of it and reading tons of other reviews online , I bought my first AK and my first PSA product. FN barreled PSAK 103.

That’s a Good Looking “ Cuerno de Chivo”

[FeuerFrei]

Originally Posted by robledor

Hello calgunners,
I am looking for a shooter. I want a ak47 that is cheap...I'll wait to see if prices go precovid, having said that.
..PSA ak47 good or better options for same or a little more money? Or should I spend and get a arsenal or a definite arms AK?

Go with a known reliable east European AK.

Cheap is NOT in the buyer's vocab these days. That ship has sailed.

https://atlanticfirearms.com/taxons/ak-47-74-rifles

[naz]

Originally Posted by Quiet

The current version of the Z-PAP and the discontinued O-PAP, both have the RPK recevier/trunnions.

The current version of the Zastava Z-PAP M70 is considered the best version of any imported Serbian made AK style rifle.


I recommend the Zastava Z-PAP M70 over the Century Arms imported Romanian made WASR-10.
But, would rather have a Palmetto State Armory AK-E or AK-103 over the Zastava Z-PAP M70.

There was a change to zpap is to have chrome lined barrel as well

[Bobby Ricigliano]

Originally Posted by Quiet

Century Arms imported the Zastava O-PAP and N-PAP.

Both, the O-PAP and N-PAP have been discontinued and Century Arms is no longer the importer for Zastava made firearms.

Zastava was displeased with Century Arms, so they established a US company (Zastava USA).
^Issues with how Century Arms modified the firearms to be 922r compliant.

Originally, the Zasatava Z-PAP was being imported in and it was similar to the N-PAP.

Then after market requests, Zastava changed the Z-PAP so that it is similar to the O-PAP.

The current version of the Z-PAP and the discontinued O-PAP, both have the RPK recevier/trunnions.

The current version of the Zastava Z-PAP M70 is considered the best version of any imported Serbian made AK style rifle.


I recommend the Zastava Z-PAP M70 over the Century Arms imported Romanian made WASR-10.
But, would rather have a Palmetto State Armory AK-E or AK-103 over the Zastava Z-PAP M70.

My Yugo AK’s are all great, but I’d bet Zastava realized that the words “Century Arms” come with a negative connotation for some people. My first AK was a gunshow purchase brand new Century GP-1975. It made it about 800 rounds until the gas piston and bolt separated from each other, seizing the weapon up immediately.

I sold it off as a fully disclosed “project gun.” It was not a hard fix, but I just wanted to get rid of it.

[PogoJack]

I having a Yugo pattern a pain for getting Yugo-specific replacement/custom parts?

Do you guys get a kick out of shoving Croatian mags into them?

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[Maulerrr]

Originally Posted by PogoJack

Do you guys get a kick out of shoving Croatian mags into them?

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I had to file a little bit of material off the locking lug for all my croatia mags. They wouldn't fit in any of my Yugo/Serbia patterns or Vepr rifles. They were too tight for most of my other AKM rifles anyway. Good to go now

[SandHill]

Originally Posted by PogoJack

I had one. The GF3.They are G2G.

How's about Lee Armory? They make them from combloc military kits and add 922r parts. Like a high quality Century Arms.

https://www.cordeliagunexchange.com/...es/lee-armory/

https://www.guns.com/news/2019/08/21...lee-armory-akm


Rob Ski Test - G2G

https://youtu.be/WyYRUvnfZwA



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Wow, I really like that Hunter Sporter set up: https://www.cordeliagunexchange.com/...armory-hunter/

Good thing they don't make them in 5.45, I would have to spend some money. I've been toying with the idea of a build like this, but parts kits are unobtanium right now.

If they ever succeed in confiscating my RAW's, this would be my replacement.

[fnlrun]

I run a RAK-47 and she just goes and goes. I enjoy it and it was $900 just a couple months ago

[2761377]

Originally Posted by PogoJack

I having a Yugo pattern a pain for getting Yugo-specific replacement/custom parts?

Do you guys get a kick out of shoving Croatian mags into them?

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lol, lots of meaning in that question.

but don't worry- if the people don't understand, the rifle doesn't care.



you can even use Bosnian ammo in it.

[naz]

Originally Posted by PogoJack

I having a Yugo pattern a pain for getting Yugo-specific replacement/custom parts?

Waiting for a side mount rail from RS regulate to come back in stock a bit annoying for me