LA County Sheriff has liberalized CCW issuance!

[Paladin]

Ever since June 15th, Sheriff Villanueva has regularly been asked about CCWs in video "town halls" and said he's liberalizing issuance. From what he's said, we believe he's taken LA county from Dark Red to Light Red, maybe even Yellow on the CA CCW Good Cause map below.

If you have Dark Red or Light Red GC you should apply ASAP. If you have Yellow, you may want to apply. If you have only Light Green GC, apply if you want, but we haven't heard anything suggesting you'd get issued. ETA: it only cost $10 to apply and get a GC decision.

To figure out your GC "color," read post #31 in this thread:
http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s....php?t=1482924

I'm just making this thread over here to ensure more LA Co CGNers hear the good news. For more info and to discuss this, go to the LA Co CCW thread at:
http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...4#post24572934

We want as many LA Co gunnies to get CCWs ASAP so that, after a few years of issuing, going back to "virtual No Issue" won't be politically feasible regardless of whether Villanueva is ever re-elected or replaced.

[jgram318]

It's been about three months since he said he would increase the issuance of CCWs by 400%, so I'd be interested to find data of how many have actually been issued vs how many applications have been denied.

The way I look at it is 400% of zero is going to equal zero. But if you go off of the permits issued to LA County residents who are not Law Enforcement or related, the number is nine. An auditor found that there were only nine active CCWs issued to residents that had no affiliation to LEOs. If you go by that number then 400% of 9 equals out to 36 CCWs which more than likely will go to friends of Sheriff Villanueva or contributors to his campaign. Had Jim McDonnell being elected, I truly believe there would've been far more CCWs issued because he had the "shall issue" mindset.

[CessnaDriver]

after all the rioting and looting, I would hope he felt pressure from some fearful elite but of course, that would only be for the elite as usual. Of course the true elite hire others to carry those dirty guns for them.

[Paladin]

Originally Posted by jgram318

The way I look at it is 400% of zero is going to equal zero. But if you go off of the permits issued to LA County residents who are not Law Enforcement or related, the number is nine. An auditor found that there were only nine active CCWs issued to residents that had no affiliation to LEOs. If you go by that number then 400% of 9 equals out to 36 CCWs which more than likely will go to friends of Sheriff Villanueva or contributors to his campaign. Had Jim McDonnell being elected, I truly believe there would've been far more CCWs issued because he had the "shall issue" mindset.

McDonnell was the incumbent who, according to the CA State Auditor violated his own residency policy in 25 out of 25 audited files and his GC policy in 24 out of the 25.

You can keep up with the latest news in the thread linked in the OP. So far, we know of 2 people who have passed the GC and interview hurdles and are progressing to LiveScan and background checks.

[Paladin]

Originally Posted by CessnaDriver

after all the rioting and looting, I would hope he felt pressure from some fearful elite but of course, that would only be for the elite as usual. Of course the true elite hire others to carry those dirty guns for them.

In a video town hall AV said if “Reimagine LA” passes in November and his budget gets cut even more he’ll liberalize GC even more.

[lastinline]

Originally Posted by Paladin

In a video town hall AV said if “Reimagine LA” passes in November and his budget gets cut even more he’ll liberalize GC even more.

This is total BS; you know it, and he knows it. It is nothing more than political pandering. This elected sheriff is trying to blow smoke up the collective rear ends of the BOS, so he will say ANYTHING to bluff them along. History proves it.
LASD will change their policy when golden monkeys fly from my ***.

[pacrat]

Originally Posted by jgram318

It's been about three months since he said he would increase the issuance of CCWs by 400%, so I'd be interested to find data of how many have actually been issued vs how many applications have been denied.

The way I look at it is 400% of zero is going to equal zero. But if you go off of the permits issued to LA County residents who are not Law Enforcement or related, the number is nine. An auditor found that there were only nine active CCWs issued to residents that had no affiliation to LEOs. If you go by that number then 400% of 9 equals out to 36 CCWs which more than likely will go to friends of Sheriff Villanueva or contributors to his campaign. Had Jim McDonnell being elected, I truly believe there would've been far more CCWs issued because he had the "shall issue" mindset.

Jim McDonnell was already sheriff before AV ousted him in the last election. He had a DEFINITE ANTI CCW mindset. Just as he did when he was the Chief of the Long Bch PD.

I think you mean "Bob Lindsey"..............sadly he lost. But he is VERY PRO CCW.

[lastinline]

Pacrat, I don’t know how old you are, but ask yourself this: In the history of your lifetime since birth, has there EVER been a County of Los Angeles Sheriff who issued CCW permits to other than friends, donors, judges, etc?....likely not.

[jgram318]

Originally Posted by pacrat

Jim McDonnell was already sheriff before AV ousted him in the last election. He had a DEFINITE ANTI CCW mindset. Just as he did when he was the Chief of the Long Bch PD.

I think you mean "Bob Lindsey"..............sadly he lost. But he is VERY PRO CCW.

I stand corrected, yes indeed I meant Bob Lindsey !!! Thank you for the correction !

[jgram318]

Originally Posted by Paladin

McDonnell was the incumbent who, according to the CA State Auditor violated his own residency policy in 25 out of 25 audited files and his GC policy in 24 out of the 25.

You can keep up with the latest news in the thread linked in the OP. So far, we know of 2 people who have passed the GC and interview hurdles and are progressing to LiveScan and background checks.

Sorry about that, you are correct, I was wrong on who I was talking about. I meant to say, Bob Lindsey.

[pacrat]

Originally Posted by lastinline

Pacrat, I don’t know how old you are, but ask yourself this: In the history of your lifetime since birth, has there EVER been a County of Los Angeles Sheriff who issued CCW permits to other than friends, donors, judges, etc?....likely not.

I'm old enough to have been really pissed when the Mulford Act made it illegal for me to carry my loaded 1911 on the seat of my car.

Eugene W. Biscailuz was Sheriff of LA CNTY when I became a resident of LA.

No LA Cnty Sheriff has ever been pro 2A enough to issue CCW to other than elites.

[OCEquestrian]

Originally Posted by pacrat

I'm old enough to have been really pissed when the Mulford Act made it illegal for me to carry my loaded 1911 on the seat of my car.

Eugene W. Biscailuz was Sheriff of LA CNTY when I became a resident of LA.

No LA Cnty Sheriff has ever been pro 2A enough to issue CCW to other than elites.

The Democrats are posing a far greater threat to the Second Amendment and gun owners in the Mulford act ever could.

[bruss01]

This is no doubt in response to the changing views of the electorate.

Before the pandemic/riots/fires a lot of people felt safe and the idea of having a gun in the house (or their neighbor's house) made them feel less safe.

Now, people feel unsafe and the thought of a gun in the house makes them feel MORE safe.

So many liberals ran out and bought guns... then found out "What, I passed a background check, waited 10 days, scrambled all over town looking for ammo... NOW I can't even carry it where I need it without a permit? Ok, fine, I'll jump thru the hoops for the permit..."

Then they find out that even though the overwhelming majority of CA county sheriff's issue permits... theirs doesn't... why? Cuz they don't frikin' feel like it and if you don't like it you can pound sand... or move.

That won't sit well with the voters come election time. Up to now they had no idea. Now they grasp the reality of what "gun control" costs you when the bad times come back around.

A sheriff that makes people feel unsafe typically doesn't get re-elected. People's minds change, the sheriff better change too, of he'll have a tough time defending his choices next election.

[Paladin]

Originally Posted by lastinline

This is total BS; you know it, and he knows it. It is nothing more than political pandering. This elected sheriff is trying to blow smoke up the collective rear ends of the BOS, so he will say ANYTHING to bluff them along. History proves it.

Sorry, unlike you I don't know whether AV will keep his word if Reimagine LA passes Nov 3rd

Originally Posted by lastinline

LASD will change their policy when golden monkeys fly from my ***.

As I showed in a post in the other thread I linked above, LA has already changed their CCW GC policy. As I posted above, two people have informed me they passed the interview and GC and were told to proceed with LiveScan. (I think trading too but don’t have time to review PMs to verify.)

[Paladin]

Originally Posted by lastinline

Pacrat, I don’t know how old you are, but ask yourself this: In the history of your lifetime since birth, has there EVER been a County of Los Angeles Sheriff who issued CCW permits to other than friends, donors, judges, etc?....likely not.

That was also true of SD Co, including under Gore until SD Co Gun Owners pressured him to change his mind two years ago. They’ve now gone from ~400 CCWs to >4,000!

[Paladin]

Originally Posted by jgram318

Sorry about that, you are correct, I was wrong on who I was talking about. I meant to say, Bob Lindsey.

No problem, that’s what I thought. I would have preferred Lindsey too.

You may recall during the campaign AV said he’d issue more than McDonnell but fewer than Lindsey. Hopefully he’s finally making good on that promise.

[Someday]

Originally Posted by Paladin

That was also true of SD Co, including under Gore until SD Co Gun Owners pressured him to change his mind two years ago. They’ve now gone from ~400 CCWs to >4,000!

As usual, you beat me to the punch. I never in my life thought I would see San Diego go ANY shade of green, yet here we are!

[Paladin]

Good points all.

In the other thread in the Co CCW Info forum someone recently posted that AV brings up issuing CCWs in every virtual/online town hall. Hopefully these “new converts” to pro RKBA won’t forget the lessons they learned from the pandemic, riots and fires (having to flee with your most valued possessions and yet no way to protect them or defend yourself).

Originally Posted by bruss01

This is no doubt in response to the changing views of the electorate.

Before the pandemic/riots/fires a lot of people felt safe and the idea of having a gun in the house (or their neighbor's house) made them feel less safe.

Now, people feel unsafe and the thought of a gun in the house makes them feel MORE safe.

So many liberals ran out and bought guns... then found out "What, I passed a background check, waited 10 days, scrambled all over town looking for ammo... NOW I can't even carry it where I need it without a permit? Ok, fine, I'll jump thru the hoops for the permit..."

Then they find out that even though the overwhelming majority of CA county sheriff's issue permits... theirs doesn't... why? Cuz they don't frikin' feel like it and if you don't like it you can pound sand... or move.

That won't sit well with the voters come election time. Up to now they had no idea. Now they grasp the reality of what "gun control" costs you when the bad times come back around.

A sheriff that makes people feel unsafe typically doesn't get re-elected. People's minds change, the sheriff better change too, of he'll have a tough time defending his choices next election.

[Paladin]

A CGNer has been issued a 2-year LASD CCW by Villanueva

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...6#post24877176

[Paladin]

We need people with Yellow Good Causes to apply with the Los Angeles Sheriffs Dept. We do not know if LASD will issue for Yellow GCs, so even you may get issued. Dark Red and Light Red applicants are getting regularly issued.

If you want a CCW it only cost $30 to apply find out if they’ll accept your GC. Post #31 at this link explains what qualifies as Yellow GC: https://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/....php?t=1482924

Here’s CGN’s LA Co CCW thread. See the posts since mid June, but especially since Oct 01 to see the change. We expect another 2-3 CGNers to get their permits later this month. https://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/...d.php?t=352761

[Paladin]

Last week we got our first reports of LA Co residents getting issued for Light Green Good Cause (recreational activities risks like hiking in wilderness or transporting guns & ammo to and from shooting ranges). We also heard of some people being issued for Dark Green GC (daily routine risks like feeling unsafe/threatened while commuting by bus).

Use the links above for more information and if you do apply be sure to let the rest of us know how it goes by posting about it here or in the LA Co CCW thread or just PM me if you’d rather stay anonymous.

[OCEquestrian]

The LA Sheriff is ONLY doing this to mess with the LA Board of Supervisors who have a huge case of buyers regret, ignoring the LASO deputies association endorsement and ONLY focusing on his endorsement/embrace of that progressive democrat priority; sanctuary laws.

The sheriff beat them at their own game, "bait and switch", and the democrat establishment is pissed, REALLY pissed!

[Escot]

Chances of anyone currently already working armed security getting one issued off good cause being they get threats by dealing with public and having to trespass them, maybe even working in a high crime area like Watts, Compton, south la?

[smogcity]

Originally Posted by Escot

Chances of anyone currently already working armed security getting one issued off good cause being they get threats by dealing with public and having to trespass them, maybe even working in a high crime area like Watts, Compton, south la?

Yes.

Read this thread from page 40 or so to present:

https://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/...352761&page=40

Watch this video:

[YOUTUBE]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L30w8FgUCyA/[YOUTUBE]

Them submit your application:

https://lasd.org/ccw/