so, where are we now? Did you read this book on the end-time?

[gsusd]

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07F6FK8MH

is it true that the end-time is playing out in the next 5 years?

[Garand Hunter]

Yes we are in the End Times, have been since May 14, 1948. How much longer ? Until the Almighty Dude up behind the clouds says ENUFF ! Not a good enuff answer........It is what it is. And no I did not read the book. Watch Israel ! EDIT: I need to add this info, In 1917 when General Allenby's army took Jerusalem and Palestine the path was formed for the formation of the country of Israel again. In the middle WW1. Its noteworthy to add when Allenby entered the city he dismounted, held his helmet in in hand and walked into the city. He said Jerusalem is the city of the great king ( Jesus Christ ) and he would not enter the city as a conqueror.

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[Barang]

1- the "fig tree" blossoming in the spring was the beginning of the countdown as mentioned by g_h.
then you add :
2- it will be like days of noah.
3- it will be like days of lot.
4- the apostasy.

[Kokopelli]

Originally Posted by gsusd

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07F6FK8MH

is it true that the end-time is playing out in the next 5 years?

What do you mean by “the end-time”? The Tribulation? The rapture? The time of Jacobs trouble? The 80th week of Daniel? Israel’s peace agreement?

Lots of book writers and YouTube folks are saying such things right now. So much so that it seems insincere and seeking attention. But I’m glad people are searching. Everyone should search the Bible. Start with Matthew 24. It’s Jesus own words.

As mentioned, Israel becoming a nation again after almost 2,000 years was the most recent significant prophetic event. It was fulfillment of Ezekiel’s prophecy of the dry bones. It was a really, really big deal.

[Alan Block]

Israel is a political entity. There is no priest, no temple… Most Israelis are happy with rabbinic Judaism which has been the model for a lot longer than the temple stood. Can your prophecies happen under the current conditions.

[MrBlond]

Jesus has been "returning imminently" since the days of the Apostles.

[colossians323]

Originally Posted by MrBlond

Jesus has been "returning imminently" since the days of the Apostles.

This


Every day that goes by is one day closer to His return

[Dirtlaw]

It will happen like a thief in the middle of the night. There is no count down. There are signs, but there is no warning that allows one to count on a last second change of heart.



My joy is that OP is pondering these things while time remains. My encouragement is as follows: Start with the Word and combine that with sincere prayer for understanding and the gift of the Spirit. Acknowledge the Son as your Lord and place your trust on His gift of salvation.

[Garand Hunter]

To Mr Block, yes ! When the Almighty says fulfill now, Prophecies happen into fulfillment. Ya ain't gonna frustrate HIM.

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[dougd1015]

We should be careful about making these specific predictions about timetables as no one really knows.

[Garand Hunter]

Times and seasons are observable and are just that, times of many activities affecting people and mans methods. Seasons are times that repeat frequently but with different outcomes. Lately the poop hitting the propeller and the da*n fool factor have been getting closer to that day, just when is still to come. STAY READY and keep your faith level high in HIM!

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[Dirtlaw]

The reality we all face is that, while we may not know the date, we can be assured that each passing day brings us one day closer to the date ... whatever it is.

[Barang]

Originally Posted by dougd1015

We should be careful about making these specific predictions about timetables as no one really knows.

disciples asked Jesus the signs of the last days and He gave them. sure! no one knows the hour but the signs are given for us to know when His reappearing is near.

[TrailerparkTrash]

That book is garbage. Anybody giving a date of Christ’s 2nd coming is just guessing according to the Bible. Nobody knows the date nor time when Christ will return. So don’t waste your time or money on any book like that.

Here’s the thing…. 100% of the people that have given a date or timeline of Christ’s return have been wrong 100% of the time.

To me, the entire “rapture” theory is more make believe than anything else. I feel that it’s actually a distraction that people are so festering upon. Instead of focusing on repentance, love, prayer, obedience to Jesus and in the “here & now,” people are needlessly overly focused on a news app in one hand and a Bible in the other! Focusing on something (a “rapture” which by the way the word doesn’t even exist in the Bible) that isn’t even clearly stated nor explained in the Bible, nor PROVEN that will even occur as some like to claim is again… distraction away from Jesus Himself. It’s “white noise.”

What is clearly explained in just a few short words by Jesus Himself, is His “2nd coming.” PERIOD. Unlike the rapture, the 2nd coming of Christ is not described in secret, nor does this revelation take a special Bible “code breaker” to dissect the various books within the Bible, piecing it all together and then coming up with a “theory.” On the contrary, Christ clearly tells us that He will return quickly (Rev 22:12) and everyone will know about it without a doubt when it happens (Luke 21).

Just prepare yourself for Jesus’ return at any second. Have Jesus in your heart and you’ll be good to go. All the other stuff associated with a “rapture” is not important for salvation, so don’t get your brain warped on that subject alone. It’s a mere secondary issue that’s debatable until Christ’s return.

Focus on the core Christian principles. The “rapture theory” is just that, a theory. Even if I’m wrong about that, it’s still not a requirement to believe in the rapture for one’s salvation. So it just doesn’t matter anyways. You can believe it if you want, but do not fester on that subject.

Just my opinion. We can all agree to disagree on this subject.

[Barang]

predicting the time/date is a non-starter but last days signs are biblical. otherwise. Jesus would have not given them to His disciples. also, it points to His future returns.

it will get ugly and persecution here in america is on its way. for a looong time, we enjoy a safe and peaceful life here but it's changing rapidly. are the churches preparing their congregants for this so that they are not caught off guard and wonder why they are being persecuted?

[Garand Hunter]

Lotsa so called " church folks " are asleep and want to stay that way-asleep.

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[eta34]

Care to elaborate, Garand?

[Garand Hunter]

When I talk to some church folks, from this church to that church, here and there, the political scene is not important to lotsa folks I interact with, it spooks some, irritates some, and some are too busy about life in general to care, AND some wanted joe in the WH, and could care less what joe was all about. Clueless as to being in the " End Times " don't bother me with that end times Stuff ! Is this a proper form of elaborate ? One lady in my last church in Cali, a lady I spoke to about joe did NOT want to talk to me about joe and abortion and other joe issues, clammed up and walked away. yes she voted for joe. Which is up to her.
Anyone remember Evangelicals for Abortion getting public before the last Prez election ?


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[Kokopelli]

Originally Posted by Garand Hunter

Lotsa so called " church folks " are asleep and want to stay that way-asleep.

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Originally Posted by eta34

Care to elaborate, Garand?

Oh! Oh! (Kokopelli raises hand.)


Matthew 25:1-13
New International Version
The Parable of the Ten Virgins

25 “At that time the kingdom of heaven will be like ten virgins who took their lamps and went out to meet the bridegroom. 2 Five of them were foolish and five were wise. 3 The foolish ones took their lamps but did not take any oil with them. 4 The wise ones, however, took oil in jars along with their lamps. 5 The bridegroom was a long time in coming, and they all became drowsy and fell asleep.

6 “At midnight the cry rang out: ‘Here’s the bridegroom! Come out to meet him!’

7 “Then all the virgins woke up and trimmed their lamps. 8 The foolish ones said to the wise, ‘Give us some of your oil; our lamps are going out.’

9 “‘No,’ they replied, ‘there may not be enough for both us and you. Instead, go to those who sell oil and buy some for yourselves.’

10 “But while they were on their way to buy the oil, the bridegroom arrived. The virgins who were ready went in with him to the wedding banquet. And the door was shut.

11 “Later the others also came. ‘Lord, Lord,’ they said, ‘open the door for us!’

12 “But he replied, ‘Truly I tell you, I don’t know you.’

13 “Therefore keep watch, because you do not know the day or the hour.

[Barang]

Originally Posted by Garand Hunter

When I talk to some church folks, from this church to that church, here and there, the political scene is not important to lotsa folks I interact with, it spooks some, irritates some, and some are too busy about life in general to care, AND some wanted joe in the WH, and could care less what joe was all about. Clueless as to being in the " End Times " don't bother me with that end times Stuff ! Is this a proper form of elaborate ? One lady in my last church in Cali, a lady I spoke to about joe did NOT want to talk to me about joe and abortion and other joe issues, clammed up and walked away. yes she voted for joe. Which is up to her.
Anyone remember Evangelicals for Abortion getting public before the last Prez election ?


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are we the modern laodicean church? (rhetorical question)

Revelation 2:14 nkjv
But I have a few things against you, because you have there those who hold the doctrine of Balaam, who taught Balak to put a stumbling block before the children of Israel, to eat things sacrificed to idols, and to commit sexual immorality.

Revelation 2:20 nkjv
Nevertheless I have [a]a few things against you, because you allow [b]that woman Jezebel, who calls herself a prophetess, [c]to teach and seduce My servants to commit sexual immorality and eat things sacrificed to idols.

chrisitians who vote for dems are aligning themselves with satan. hello abortion! gay marriage, lgbtqwxyz, transgenderism, drag story hour with children and the rest of their demonic policies.

tolerance, diversity is where the woke people thrive while they destroy God's Word and persecute christians.

[socal m1 shooter]

Originally Posted by TrailerparkTrash

That book is garbage. Anybody giving a date of Christ’s 2nd coming is just guessing according to the Bible. Nobody knows the date nor time when Christ will return. So don’t waste your time or money on any book like that.[...]

This guy would agree that an excessive focus on end times is not good.

Here's another well-respected reformed theology guy who rejects a pre-tribulation rapture.

There are many legit, committed believers who question the pre-tribulation rapture. But if you want to read a solid defense of both sides of the issue, I would recommend The Footsteps of the Messiah for a detailed defense of the pre-trib view and Not Afraid of the Antichrist for the other side.

[Dirtlaw]

The important "take away" is that God is love and mercy. But God also is just. Warnings have been given. Signs have been promised. You can debate their timing or even their value, but the signs are there for a purpose. Listen up or ignore ... the choice is yours, but ignore the warnings at your own peril.

[Garand Hunter]

The church scene is a mix at this time....Philadelphia Church and Laodicean Church in my not so humble opinion. Hot lukewarm, some warm and some hot and burning in faith and devotion. As for those who do not believe in a pre trib rapture of the church......remember its by faith, don't believe in it, you are right......you won't be raptured with those who believe in it. As for those who don't believe in self protection, before the rapture occurs, I am with those who have a sword/firearm until it occurs.

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[Barang]

as of right now there is no middle ground. it's either your on God's side or satan's side. the division and the issues are very clear and decisive. unfortunately, satan's is successfully infiltrating the churches and they are allowing/welcoming wokeness with open arms.

[Garand Hunter]

Are we the modern Laodicean church ? Yes and no, many churches are that want to attract people and go easy on Appling the TRUTH of the gosple so no one will be offended.......Jesus offended many who could not handle the truth.
The churches who apply the TRUTH would likely fall under the Philidelphia Church. Several of the catagories overlap.

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[Dirtlaw]

We need to focus on fundamentals; not division. I do believe the time is short, but that's just a feeling and not offered as prophecy.

[Barang]

unfortunately, that's what satan does .... division. the biggest problem are the christians who don't stand up and defend their faith. they don't want to offend but that's not Biblical as g_h mentioned above.

Jesus Himself said these:
Matthew 7:16 nkjv
You will know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes from thornbushes or figs from thistles?
Matthew 7:22-23 nkjv
22 Many will say to Me in that day, ‘Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name?’ 23 And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness!’

[Barang]

unfortunately, that's what satan does .... division. the biggest problem are the christians who don't stand up and defend their faith. they don't want to offend but that's not Biblical as g_h mentioned above.

Jesus Himself said these:
Matthew 7:16 nkjv
You will know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes from thornbushes or figs from thistles?
Matthew 7:22-23 nkjv
22 Many will say to Me in that day, ‘Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name?’ 23 And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness!’

[Chugiak]

The answers are in the scriptures. 2Tim 2.15 to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth. When studying the scriptures we need to pay attention to who it was written to and why. Satan m.o. is in religion. Do you remember the temptation in the garden in Genesis? Satan uses scriptures. Three things we should never do: add to scripture, take away from or change. That serpent the devil did all three in the garden. In the temptations of our Lord he does it again. Compare his quotes to the original and see the differences. As to the rapture theory, have he not read? The parable of the wheat and tares. Jesus said learn the parable of the fig tree. Have you?


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[TrailerparkTrash]

Originally Posted by Garand Hunter

Yes we are in the End Times, have been since May 14, 1948.

We don’t know that. It’s all theory. It may be true, it may not be true, nobody truly knows.

Another thing to note…..

100% of the people that have tried to time the end or the rapture or the second coming, have been wrong 100% of the time.

Let that sink in for a moment. Had God wanted us to know a specific time, He would have told us outright. Worrying about when the “end” begins is a distraction, white noise and interference with what’s really important. That is, being ready individually in one’s heart for Jesus Christ to take us without warning.

[cactus]

For me I think it's more important to be ready for the date. Try your best each day to live a God pleasing life. Sincerely talk to the Lord in prayer each day. Have total faith in him and teach everyone around you of his love and grace.

Ya it's rough out there brother's ,but God is good and in him all things are possible.

[Chugiak]

Your right on that we don’t know the date, but if you are a watchman you will know the season and be prepared so it won’t take you like a thrifty in the night. It doesn’t happen “at any time”. We must sharpen up. The scriptures tell us certain things will happen first. Do you know who must show up first? What seal and trump?


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[RandyD]

In the recent past, I got caught up in listening to those who were predicting that the Rapture is upon us. As TrailerparkTrash commented, they were 100% wrong. I believe there is a Rapture and as the Parable of the 10 Virgins guides us, we should have oil in our lamps. Oil is the Holy Spirit. Get right with God, confess your sins, repent of them, pray, forgive others, and lead a godly life.

[Garand Hunter]

I do not engage the date setters, not do I set dates, however I see in my not so humble point of understanding that the so called End Times began in your face during WWI when the British General Allenby walked into the city of Jerusalem holding his helmet in his hand and declared that Jerusalem IS the city of the Great King/Jesus The Christ. Further events led to the declaration that Israel is a soverign nation, as in political sayings. Events went in overdrive from there, May 14, 1948. Disagree......helpeth thyself.

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[Chugiak]

Originally Posted by Garand Hunter

I do not engage the date setters, not do I set dates, however I see in my not so humble point of understanding that the so called End Times began in your face during WWI when the British General Allenby walked into the city of Jerusalem holding his helmet in his hand and declared that Jerusalem IS the city of the Great King/Jesus The Christ. Further events led to the declaration that Israel is a soverign nation, as in political sayings. Events went in overdrive from there, May 14, 1948. Disagree......helpeth thyself.

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Israel becoming a nation again is an important part of the parable of the fig tree. And to the other posters talking about the churches in Revelation, pay attention to what the church of Smyrna and Philadelphia have in common - clue Smyrna means female fig tree. Jesus said LEARN the parable of the fig tree! It spans from Genesis to Revelation.


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[bruss01]

Originally Posted by gsusd

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07F6FK8MH

is it true that the end-time is playing out in the next 5 years?

My preferred book on biblical end times:


How the World Will End: Guide to Survival by Salem Kirban
https://www.amazon.com/How-World-Wil...s%2C233&sr=1-2

This is the older 1968 version of the book. It was revised and updated in 1990, but IMHO it lost something in the process.

By "end times" my personal meaning is "watching the necessary stage setting events transpire that make the events in Revelation possible".

If you are seeing planning for a 3rd Hebrew temple, imminent planning for a perfect red heifer, global government, "tracking" individuals and their allegiance and limiting their ability to participate in society... these are the "warm up" events you are seeing while we are waiting for the game to start.

When is the kick off? Nobody knows, but the fans are present, the referees are getting squared away, and the coaches are in the locker rooms giving the teams their last-minute strategy and motivation speeches. If you haven't picked a side and found your seat already, maybe now's a good time.