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2nd Amend. Litigation Updates & Legal Discussion Discuss California 2A related litigation and legal topics here. All advice given is NOT legal counsel. |
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Now Wiese v Bonta
Order lifting stay of proceedings 10/19/2022 https://assets.nationbuilder.com/fir...pdf?1666223156 status conference continued until January 17, 2023 11/4/2022 https://assets.nationbuilder.com/fir...pdf?1667593919
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Why is this proceeding still? The main mag capacity case is in Benitez’ hands and we kinda know what ruling to expect from him. Nobody envisions a loss at this stage. Barred some catastrophic change of mind, the decision in Duncan case would be in our favor.
What is the point of dragging along another identical case in front of another judge with questionable outcome? Plaintiff’s inflated ego? Last edited by Inoxmark; 11-07-2022 at 6:11 PM.. |
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No, there are still claims remaining which were stayed pending Duncan, then Bruen, which have now restarted.
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IIRC Benetez is hearing Duncan, Rhode and Miller on Dec 12. Will he hear Wiese that day too?
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correct. no happy forum shopping result for this case.
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Benitez will be busy enough on Dec 12: his 4th 2A case that day is Fouts (baton case).
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No decisions made on the 12th. Its going to be months again before there is a possible ruling
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Well. That's interesting
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Not a delay, per se. Sounds like the judge struck middle ground preempting the need for that status conference. Still a chance it goes back to discovery after motion is filed, but gives plaintiffs an opportunity to tailor to avoid the need, if they choose.
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Plaintiffs (us): “Here are complete spreadsheets provided by defendant in another venue proving there is no Text, History or Tradition to support their position.”
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^^^this^^^
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Some movement in this
https://www.courtlistener.com/docket...ese-v-becerra/ Honestly I had forgotten about this case. Washington Gun Law did a quick 6 min blurb video. Sent from my Pixel 6a using Tapatalk |
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Notice of Motion: July 10 Deadline.
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"People say nothing is impossible, but I do nothing every day.” "Nothing is foolproof to a sufficiently-talented fool." "The things that come to those who wait may well be the things left by those who got there first." Last edited by Dvrjon; 04-01-2023 at 11:15 AM.. |
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The latest reply brief in support of motion for summary judgment was submitted last week: https://assets.nationbuilder.com/fir...pdf?1685635557
Seems well written to me. I think they backed the court into a corner by pointing to previous rulings that said magazine bans burden the second amendment. Hopefully the court can’t find a way to weasel out of it. |
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So...I expect something similar in CA soon.
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