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Old 12-03-2022, 11:27 AM
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Default What round to rebarrel to?

I have a Vanguard in .257 Weatherby that needs to be rebarreled - it may shoot well enough for some but not for me any longer. I like the cartridge and its performance. I have a lot of brass and bullets for it, as well as dies. If I get a barrel made, I can specify a faster twist in case there are longer, higher BC bullets developed for that diameter....but the 6.5 PRC and the 6.8 Westerner look interesting.

I will probably leave it in .257. What would you do and which brand of barrel would you choose?
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Old 12-03-2022, 11:58 AM
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I'd keep it at 257

Then go buy a Browning X bolt LR MAX in 6.8 western so you can shoot heavier bullets
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Old 12-03-2022, 12:21 PM
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Big fan of the 6.5-284. Solid round with a history of excellent performance in long range matches and in hunting.
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Old 12-03-2022, 7:47 PM
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7 PRC
Think your barrel will last longer than 6.5 PRC
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Old 12-03-2022, 8:21 PM
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That 7mm PRC cartridge is looking good. But since you already have components, the .257 Weatherby chambering is still advantageous for you.

The other reason to consider the 7mm PRC over the 6.5mm PRC is the increased BC over even the 6.5mm bullets. It's with good reason the 7mm Rem Mag remains popular today. The 7mm PRC looks like what the 7mm Rem Mag would've been if Remington had designed it today, free of the "magnums must have belts!" way of thinking that was prevalent back in 1962.
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Old 12-04-2022, 9:00 AM
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OP I think you would be ahead of the game to just buy a new rifle in the caliber you want; that is, unless you're overly attached to the Weatherby Vanguard you now have. When one factors in the price of a new barrel and paying a qualified and competent gunsmith to fit it to your action, you're already into the price of a new off the shelf rifle......maybe more so.
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Obvious answer is 257 Wby Ackley
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Old 12-05-2022, 9:23 AM
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OP I think you would be ahead of the game to just buy a new rifle in the caliber you want; that is, unless you're overly attached to the Weatherby Vanguard you now have. When one factors in the price of a new barrel and paying a qualified and competent gunsmith to fit it to your action, you're already into the price of a new off the shelf rifle......maybe more so.
That may be so, but I also have a Macmillan Edge stock on it that was pricey as well as an after market trigger. I can get the barrel contoured the same. It is not bedded but has aluminum pillars.
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Old 12-05-2022, 10:32 AM
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Buy a Krieger, Broughton, Bartlein or Proof Research barrel in the same contour as your original barrel. Leave it in 257 Roy since you have all the equipment and supplies for it but get it in a 1:8" twist. Although I love the .25 caliber it doesn't have the bullet selection of the 6mm, 6.5mm and 7mm calibers but if it's strictly for hunting, there are more than enough quality .25 bullets available.
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Old 12-05-2022, 12:09 PM
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I would keep it in .257 and buy another rifle in one of your other choice calibers. Be cautious of getting one of the new new calibers as ammo availability will be very slim and hard to come by. Several weeks ago, I was finally able to find some 6.5PRC for a rifle I bough three years ago and was never able to shoot it. Now I can. B.
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Old 12-05-2022, 12:10 PM
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If he's a semi-young guy, he might consider a 6.5 or 7mm. The bullets will be more available and on sale more often. Plus a cartridge that is less overbore might get the barrel to last longer - I've never heard of someone wearing out a hunting rifle barrel.
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Old 12-05-2022, 12:11 PM
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I would keep it in .257 and buy another rifle in one of your other choice calibers. Be cautious of getting one of the new new calibers as ammo availability will be very slim and hard to come by. Several weeks ago, I was finally able to find some 6.5PRC for a rifle I bough three years ago and was never able to shoot it. Now I can. B.
What kind of ammo? I have a 6.5 PRC (unshot) too.
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Old 12-05-2022, 7:07 PM
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If your hunting with the rifle and keep it 257 in California your bullet selection is limited so get a 8 twist barrel just in case better bullets become available. You already have brass dies and load data.
The 6.5-284 is a great round but you would need a 30-06 or 0.473 boltface not your Magnum or 0.532 bolt you have now.
The 257 Ackley adds velocity but dies or $350 and a 3 month wait to get them.
The 6.5 PRC uses the Magnum boltface and with the newer longer solid target bullets it gives you a ballistic edge but you need new dies and brass.
Same for the 7 PRC. You get a ballistic advantage but need brass and dies.
On the barrel go with a fast twist in any barrel you order to take advantage of any future bullets as well as those already available today.
8 twist in 257,264 or 284 from Grizzly Bugholes Brunos or anyone else without a long wait time.
And have it finished at 27 inches to give yourself a better ballistic advantage. If you don't like the extra inch take out your hacksaw cut it to the length you prefer and have it recrowned.
On a new custom barrel I myself would never go shorter than 26 inches but your hunting situation might not be the same as mine or others.
I would only go with a carbon wrapped barrel if weight was an issue as they simply cost too much for your everyday hunting rifle.
If you were a long distance hiker or a high altitude sheep hunter the lightweight barrel makes more sense.
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What kind of ammo? I have a 6.5 PRC (unshot) too.
I found some Winchester white box 147gr ELD Match at Bass Pro and some at Sportsman's Warehouse. Sportsman's actually had 12 boxes. I bought six and left the other six for a future customer to be named. I know what it's like to not find it so when I did, I did not ammo hog what they had.

I have been seeing small selections of Creedmore ammo on various shelves. But, I don't have one of those. So hopefully the PRC will start to be more available really soon. Still no Large Rifle Primers. B.
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Old 12-06-2022, 8:40 AM
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I found some Winchester white box 147gr ELD Match at Bass Pro and some at Sportsman's Warehouse. Sportsman's actually had 12 boxes. I bought six and left the other six for a future customer to be named. I know what it's like to not find it so when I did, I did not ammo hog what they had.

I have been seeing small selections of Creedmore ammo on various shelves. But, I don't have one of those. So hopefully the PRC will start to be more available really soon. Still no Large Rifle Primers. B.
Thanks. I've never seen white box, it must be new. Kinda funny that its has ELD Match bullets.
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Old 12-06-2022, 8:50 AM
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Why are you wasting time on this? You already answered your question.

"I like the cartridge and its performance. I have a lot of brass and bullets for it, as well as dies"
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Old 12-06-2022, 11:52 AM
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I'm sorry. It's actually Hornady ammo. I'm just so used to seeing white boxes associated with Winchester ammo that's what popped into my head. Sorry about that. B.
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Old 12-08-2022, 9:16 AM
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I'm sorry. It's actually Hornady ammo. I'm just so used to seeing white boxes associated with Winchester ammo that's what popped into my head. Sorry about that. B.
Okay, that's prime stuff. Now I have to ask how much it was.
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Old 12-08-2022, 8:07 PM
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I'm all for rebarreling rather than buying an off the shelf rifle. Especially since you already have a fantastic stock and trigger on it. You will get much better performance from a match grade barrel and a good gunsmith to make sure the action is nice and straight rather than a mass produced rifle. I assume this is a hunting rifle; what will you be hunting?
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Old 12-09-2022, 8:38 AM
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I will be hunting mainly deer, antelope and hogs with it. I would not have any reservations about hunting elk with a 115 gr TSX. I will get the new barrel in .257 Weatherby as it just makes the most sense and I do not shoot beyond 500 yards at the most.
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Old 12-12-2022, 9:59 AM
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If you go with 6.5 PRC, good luck finding brass. Just as hard to get as small pistol primers. Been looking for a month now and I had to buy Hornady Match ammo to get brass.

I'd stick with your 257 Wby since you already have supplies like M1NM said.
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Quarter bores are like 16 gauge shotguns. The people that use them are smarter, better looking, faster, stronger, and all around nicer than everyone else; not to mention better shots.
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Quarter bores are like 16 gauge shotguns. The people that use them are smarter, better looking, faster, stronger, and all around nicer than everyone else; not to mention better shots.
You forgot more stubborn, as you refuse to acknowledge that WWII ended 75 years ago.

OP, see if Weatherby has a rebarreling service. They hand lap their Mark V barrels. A gunsmith can do that too, just realize that not having it done is taking a step down from your Mark V.
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Old 12-21-2022, 9:32 PM
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You forgot more stubborn, as you refuse to acknowledge that WWII ended 75 years ago.
Yeah, well, my quarter bore is certainly on the modern side of things

My 16s however...
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Old 12-22-2022, 7:17 AM
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I said that as an acknowledgement to my first gun, a 16 gauge Christmas present from my father, who grew up in the depression, and largely lived off the critters they killed. He had not hunted since the early 50's, didn't even have a suitable gun. So when he saw the 16 gauge in the store, which he fondly remembered, he figured that would be better for an 85 pound kid than a 12 gauge. Unfortunately he had also not bought any shells since the early 50's either.
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I will be hunting mainly deer, antelope and hogs with it. I would not have any reservations about hunting elk with a 115 gr TSX. I will get the new barrel in .257 Weatherby as it just makes the most sense and I do not shoot beyond 500 yards at the most.
Seems like you made up your mind.

I would've said keep it in .257 Weatherby.

But if I were to recommend a new caliber, I would've recommended a 7mm PRC in a carbon wrapped 20" barrel for your application.
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