Expats NFA picture & discussion thread!

[joefrank64k]

Originally Posted by EBR Works

Ok, everything came together perfectly:



The final configurations:

You scored with that silencer, EBR!!

Nice rig!!

[EBR Works]

Thanks! I'll shoot some video tomorrow.

[Mac Attack]

Ran a sound comparison with my 300 BO SBR and MP5 SBR both with subsonic rounds. Which is more quiet?

https://photos.app.goo.gl/N9b557bExkD7TNEj8

[EBR Works]

Originally Posted by Mac Attack

Ran a sound comparison with my 300 BO SBR and MP5 SBR both with subsonic rounds. Which is more quiet?

https://photos.app.goo.gl/N9b557bExkD7TNEj8

MP5 appears to be quieter. What suppressors on each?

[Mac Attack]

The video doesn’t give accurate sounds but I would agree the 9 mm was quieter but not by much. Considering I was moving the 300 BO 220 gr bullet at 1050 fps vs the 9 mm147 gr bullet at 980+. The sound coming out of the rifle is impressive.

300 BO - Dead Air Nomad 30

MP5 - Yankee Hill Machine R9

[mej16489]

The 249 has turned out sweeet EBR, I can't wait to see it.

Mac, I think the MP5 was slightly more quiet as well - ever so slightly.

[mej16489]

Does anyone have any recommendations for something to put a hot suppressor in for transport. Maybe I'm overthinking this...my first can should get out of NFA jail relatively soon (fingers crossed) so this is new to me...

Basically I'm thinking what do I do if I take a brake from work, go shooting for a bit, but something comes up and I need to zip back to work ASAP. I imagine I can take it off with a welding glove easily enough but what do I put it into?

Would it change things or provide other options if I simply leave it on the gun? It'll be a Q Thunder Chicken on an MCX Rattler, so much of the suppressor will be overlapped with the hand guard.

[EBR Works]

Originally Posted by mej16489

Does anyone have any recommendations for something to put a hot suppressor in for transport. Maybe I'm overthinking this...my first can should get out of NFA jail relatively soon (fingers crossed) so this is new to me...

Basically I'm thinking what do I do if I take a brake from work, go shooting for a bit, but something comes up and I need to zip back to work ASAP. I imagine I can take it off with a welding glove easily enough but what do I put it into?

Would it change things or provide other options if I simply leave it on the gun? It'll be a Q Thunder Chicken on an MCX Rattler, so much of the suppressor will be overlapped with the hand guard.

We use this to cool them faster:

https://gunwarrior.com/2161/chamber-...cooler-debuts/
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[Mac Attack]

It’s a hassle but when my cans get nice and hot and I’m ready to pack up and leave. I end up having to take an extra 10 - 15 mins for them to cool down. You could take them off their hosts before I take them off my hosts but I just leave them on as they cool down.

If you take them off, just be aware the mount may have heated up too so the metal expanded and may take extra effort to pull off. Definitely have a glove or something to use to pull them off.

As far as transporting a hot suppressor, you may want to consider a cover as they do a great job of making it easier to handle hot cans. Just know covers will eventually need to be replaced as they degrade over time.

[Mac Attack]

Originally Posted by EBR Works

We use this to cool them faster:

https://gunwarrior.com/2161/chamber-...cooler-debuts/
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First time hearing about a chamber chiller. I take you just stick it into the muzzle of the suppressor.

[EBR Works]

Originally Posted by Mac Attack

First time hearing about a chamber chiller. I take you just stick it into the muzzle of the suppressor.

I just dismount the can and put it on a hard service, then run the cooler into it. Much quicker than waiting for it to cool naturally.

[sigstroker]

Originally Posted by Mac Attack

The video doesn’t give accurate sounds but I would agree the 9 mm was quieter but not by much. Considering I was moving the 300 BO 220 gr bullet at 1050 fps vs the 9 mm147 gr bullet at 980+. The sound coming out of the rifle is impressive.

300 BO - Dead Air Nomad 30

MP5 - Yankee Hill Machine R9

Friend of mine had a S&H SD conversion with the holes in the barrel. I don't know if it was H&K stuff or someone made it in the U.S. This was over 20 years ago so I would guess it was real H&K stuff. It turned supersonic ammo into subsonic so we know it had a drilled barrel.

It was a damn quiet setup if you were more than 5 feet away. If you were shooting it you could hear quite a bit of port pop, but it was still hearing safe.

Nice to know the R9 sounds good, but nobody has done a metered test that I've seen. It's frustrating that Silencer Shop has stopped testing, because buying is just all guesswork.

Originally Posted by mej16489

Does anyone have any recommendations for something to put a hot suppressor in for transport. Maybe I'm overthinking this...my first can should get out of NFA jail relatively soon (fingers crossed) so this is new to me...

Basically I'm thinking what do I do if I take a brake from work, go shooting for a bit, but something comes up and I need to zip back to work ASAP. I imagine I can take it off with a welding glove easily enough but what do I put it into?

Nomex pouches are made, but they're expensive, over a hundred bucks. You could get a silicone oven mitt and stick the can in there, and get a second mitt to cover the protruding end.

Would it change things or provide other options if I simply leave it on the gun? It'll be a Q Thunder Chicken on an MCX Rattler, so much of the suppressor will be overlapped with the hand guard.

How does that setup sound? That's a really short barrel.

Does the taper on the can match the taper on the SIG?

[sigstroker]

BTW, I know how you can tell when it's cool enough to handle...

[EBR Works]

Photo of the .223 concentricity check rod in the mounted can. Perfectly aligned & plenty of room!


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[nitroxdiver]

Originally Posted by mej16489

Does anyone have any recommendations for something to put a hot suppressor in for transport. Maybe I'm overthinking this...my first can should get out of NFA jail relatively soon (fingers crossed) so this is new to me...

Basically I'm thinking what do I do if I take a brake from work, go shooting for a bit, but something comes up and I need to zip back to work ASAP. I imagine I can take it off with a welding glove easily enough but what do I put it into?

Would it change things or provide other options if I simply leave it on the gun? It'll be a Q Thunder Chicken on an MCX Rattler, so much of the suppressor will be overlapped with the hand guard.

I use the carbon x suppressor bag and mitt from mechanix wear glove company if i have to handle a hot can or need to leave and transport my can while it’s still hot.

https://www.mechanix.com/us-en/sale-...UP-BAG-05.html

[sigstroker]

In another life I used to race cars a little. By rule you had to wear a fireproof suit, and nomex was the dominant material. Nomex is pretty good, but it's main attribute is it doesn't burn. It still lets heat come through to some degree.

There were always new high tech materials being introduced, and I was in a race shop when one of them came out. They were doing a cool demo - you put on a glove made of the material, which was impressive because it was really thin and in an open knit, and they held a lit lighter under your hand, flame fully touching the glove. It didn't even feel warm. Wish I could remember the name of it.

[EBR Works]

Maybe something like this for your hot suppressor transport. Don't know if the inside of the pouch would melt:

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07YXZMMK8...2-587d01f975e8
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[nitroxdiver]

Originally Posted by sigstroker

In another life I used to race cars a little. By rule you had to wear a fireproof suit, and nomex was the dominant material. Nomex is pretty good, but it's main attribute is it doesn't burn. It still lets heat come through to some degree.

There were always new high tech materials being introduced, and I was in a race shop when one of them came out. They were doing a cool demo - you put on a glove made of the material, which was impressive because it was really thin and in an open knit, and they held a lit lighter under your hand, flame fully touching the glove. It didn't even feel warm. Wish I could remember the name of it.

Sig, I’m betting that was mechanix gloves that did that demo and the material was carbon x. If not I think they did a similar demo with it when it came out. That’s what that hot suppressor storage bag I linked above is made out of. They are deeply discounted on their sight right now. Thinking about buying another while they are cheap. Take care.

[sigstroker]

Originally Posted by nitroxdiver

Sig, I’m betting that was mechanix gloves that did that demo and the material was carbon x. If not I think they did a similar demo with it when it came out. That’s what that hot suppressor storage bag I linked above is made out of. They are deeply discounted on their sight right now. Thinking about buying another while they are cheap. Take care.

This was in the 80's, so probably not.

[colossians323]

Thread title should be changed to "EBR's active porn thread"

[EBR Works]

Some M249 shoot video from today, with and without suppression:



Runs flawlessly. The SLX can reduces gas in the face to almost zero.

Listen for hits on the big steel plate at 150 yards.
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[nitroxdiver]

Sounds awesome with that can. Looks like it ran flawlessly as well. Huge congrats.

[mej16489]

Originally Posted by sigstroker

Nomex pouches are made, but they're expensive, over a hundred bucks. You could get a silicone oven mitt and stick the can in there, and get a second mitt to cover the protruding end.



How does that setup sound? That's a really short barrel.

Does the taper on the can match the taper on the SIG?

Thanks for the suggestions everyone.

I'm still waiting on the stamp so I don't know yet. The taper on the muzzle device is intended for use with the Sig taper. Q also makes direct thread version of their cans with a Sig taper. I've gone the muzzle device route as I intend to also run this on an 18" AR10

[sigstroker]

That Mechanix bag is on sale now for 30 bucks.

[mej16489]

Originally Posted by sigstroker

That Mechanix bag is on sale now for 30 bucks.

They are having a reasonably decent sale overall right now. I snagged one of those bags and some other items I needed as well. With a little luck maybe I'll get to test this bag soon...

[nitroxdiver]

Originally Posted by mej16489

They are having a reasonably decent sale overall right now. I snagged one of those bags and some other items I needed as well. With a little luck maybe I'll get to test this bag soon...

The hot mitt they make is worth having too. For re-tightening a hot can or removing it to put it in the bag. I think it’s on sale too. Same material. Use mine all the time.

[sigstroker]

Got a couple mitts from Silencer Shop that came with the cans.

[mej16489]

Originally Posted by nitroxdiver

The hot mitt they make is worth having too. For re-tightening a hot can or removing it to put it in the bag. I think it’s on sale too. Same material. Use mine all the time.

I have welding globes, so I think I'm covered for that angle.

[nitroxdiver]

Originally Posted by mej16489

I have welding globes, so I think I'm covered for that angle.

There ya go. That’ll work

[Zamble]

Certified on 3/29, received my stamp on 12/9. SureFire SOCOM762 RC2.

[nitroxdiver]

Congrats Zamble!! Enjoy.

[mej16489]

I certified on 3/24 - approval came on Friday but the processing FFL couldn't release until today... Hopefully I'll be able to get over there before they close today.

Q Thunder Chicken.

[EBR Works]

This MPA gun has been in my safe unloved as a pistol for about a decade. Was a CA SSE gun during that golden time. Rummaged through the parts bin and found enough stuff to SBR it. Not a can, just a barrel extension that fits the permanent tri-lug. Fun to shoot now.



A local CalGuns expat taking it for a ride:



I also have a few of these from when we first became a SOT in CA. This one in .22. I have another in 9mm. The oil can adapter is the registered part.

Silly!