CA VIRTUE SIGNALLING

[pacrat]

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/ca...GV9?li=BBnb7Kz

California has issued the U.S. Supreme Court a direct challenge at the confluence of gun and abortion rights as Gov. Gavin Newsom signed a firearms bill embracing the doctrine of private enforcement.

Gov Hairgel is the RAT that ROARED in defiance of the US Constitution. Totally ignoring PLCAA. And inviting private citizens to get Bslapped in Fed court at their own expense. Which will be considerable.

[BAJ475]

Originally Posted by pacrat

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/ca...GV9?li=BBnb7Kz

Gov Hairgel is the RAT that ROARED in defiance of the US Constitution. Totally ignoring PLCAA. And inviting private citizens to get Bslapped in Fed court at their own expense. Which will be considerable.

Bslapped in Fed court; I'm all for that.

[SkyHawk]

Originally Posted by BAJ475

Bslapped in Fed court; I'm all for that.

[pacrat]

What is notably missing in the "Hairgel" photo in the link. Is the BIG SIGN on the front of the podium that says;


"GUN LAWS SAVE LIVES"

SO PRAY TELL, WHY, aren't the cities/states, all of which are Leftist Dem Run. With the most oppressive GUN LAWS. THE SAFEST IN THE COUNTRY?

List of which includes, but not limited to.

LA

Chicago

NYC

Wash. DC

SAN FRANCISCO

Oakland

ETC

ETC

ETC

[MJB]

You say the lie enough

[pacrat]

Originally Posted by MJB

You say the lie enough

^^^ZACTLY^^^

The Leftist Socialist Dem party is over run with Joseph Goebells acolytes.

And the fools that vote for them continue to swallow the lies. Because they either don't care about being lied to.

[1] ... As long as the GRAVY TRAIN keeps running.

[2] ... Or they are just to stupid to fact check anything contrary to the propaganda.

[3] ... LIKELY a mix of both.

[spike90049]

California is a joke.

The District is going to vacate all these cases and force them to be reheard yet again. While we will win in the end it's just another act of infantile petulance by these a holes.

CA won't be "freed" for years. How sad.

Glad I'm off to TX.

[gwanghoops]

D stupidity following R stupidity.
complete political polarization = time to vote down everyone spouting this crap

[Scratch705]

gavin wins politically regardless of how this law goes.

he either gets the texas abortion ban kicked out as being unconstitutional. or he forces SC to enforce this gun law.

either way, this is political bonus points for him on the national stage as this will get national coverage once it goes to 9th Circuit if not SC.

[Tarmy]

Originally Posted by Scratch705

gavin wins politically regardless of how this law goes.

he either gets the texas abortion ban kicked out as being unconstitutional. or he forces SC to enforce this gun law.

either way, this is political bonus points for him on the national stage as this will get national coverage once it goes to 9th Circuit if not SC.

Yep.

He wants to be President…so this is all good for him to brag yo his base about. His base being infantile welfare sucking liberals…

[pacrat]

Originally Posted by Scratch705

gavin wins politically regardless of how this law goes.

he either gets the texas abortion ban kicked out as being unconstitutional. or he forces SC to enforce this gun law.

either way, this is political bonus points for him on the national stage as this will get national coverage once it goes to 9th Circuit if not SC.

OK, the Hairgel Coated Turd gets SUCK POINTS with the Leftist DNC for his "I DID SOMETHING" virtue signaling false claim.

But he can do nothing about Texas. He has no standing. And SCOTUS has already ruled on his new Bucket o Crap batch of useless unenforceable anti 2A laws. "THT" is now the law of the land. And the "stare decisis precedent" that all 2A cases and laws MUST NOW BE JUDGED BY.

Another actual valid point is that the Dobbs decision UNDID a ruling on a NON enumerated right. That was DID by creating a right, without even a mention in the USCon. Which should have been left in the States Domain.

Bruen is the exact opposite. It sets right, decades of gross over reaches by lower courts, for giving thumbs up, to blatant unconstitutional infringements to an ENUMERATED RIGHT. By creating out of smoke. The TWO step crap.

[kenl]

Originally Posted by Scratch705

gavin wins politically regardless of how this law goes.

he either gets the texas abortion ban kicked out as being unconstitutional. or he forces SC to enforce this gun law.

either way, this is political bonus points for him on the national stage as this will get national coverage once it goes to 9th Circuit if not SC.

I don't get this affliction equating the 2nd amendment with abortion "rights".

The "rights" found by the activist SC in Roe v Wade are not in the constitution and never were. The current ruling turned the abortion question back over to the states to decide if is acceptable or not.

The 2nd is clearly written into the Bill of Rights, and was incorporated by the 14th amendment. Recent court cases have affirmed that.

The only people tying the Texas abortion law to gun cases are authoritarian democrats. For others there's no link except for this sick state government ripping off the Texas law's language to try to go after gun owners and manufacturers....again.

My prediction, Newson gets nothing from anyone outside of his base and the Texas law stands while this latest kalifornian law goes down in flames

edit - pacrat in post #11 said this way better than I am able to.

[everyday_hero]

Imagine a 2024 DeSantis vs Newsolini runoff for U.S President. On merit alone, Florida has become a state of success and California is not a state of success.

https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/california

https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/florida

[gwanghoops]

Originally Posted by everyday_hero

Imagine a 2024 DeSantis vs Newsolini runoff for U.S President. On merit alone, Florida has become a state of success and California is not a state of success.

https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/california

https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/florida

Governor Inslee (D) can claim the top spot and success in Washington...no.
using a few chosen numbers doesn't move a complex issue.

Newsom v DeSantis maybe more likely than Trump/Biden.
still 2 politicians virtue signalling like many and no real actions.
please God let the 2024 Presidential debates not cover any current "hot issues" but boring issues like budgets/deficits, economics, infrastructure, taxes, Social Security, defense, education, welfare, illegal immigration, China/Taiwan, Russia/UKR, bipartisan cooperation, foreign policy, etc.

[tiki]

Originally Posted by everyday_hero

Imagine a 2024 DeSantis vs Newsolini runoff for U.S President. On merit alone, Florida has become a state of success and California is not a state of success.

It should be interesting. With the amount of negative comments about California and Californians moving to free states, framing Newsom as "making the US like California" should be fun.

[Nodaedul]

Originally Posted by Scratch705

gavin wins politically regardless of how this law goes.

he either gets the texas abortion ban kicked out as being unconstitutional. or he forces SC to enforce this gun law.

either way, this is political bonus points for him on the national stage as this will get national coverage once it goes to 9th Circuit if not SC.

Apples and oranges. Allowing people to sue those murdering unborn children, an act protected by nothing, is completely unrelated to allowing people to sue those violating The Bill of Rights.

[DB>]

RKBA is a Constitutional right, killing unborn babies not so much.

False equivalencies are still false, even if you have good hair and a cheeky smile.

[lmcc0072]

[QUOTE Gov Hairgel is the RAT that ROARED in defiance of the US Constitution. Totally ignoring PLCAA. And inviting private citizens to get Bslapped in Fed court at their own expense. Which will be considerable. [/QUOTE]

Governor Hairgel? Most of us just call him Greaseball.

[Equitymind]

Newscum. Can’t stand the pompous Ahole. Can’t believe that he wasn’t recalled.

[DentonandSasquatchShow]

Here's why Newsom and the Left are morons.

The 2A is a RIGHT. Abortion is not.

[Sutcliffe]

Originally Posted by Equitymind

Newscum. Can’t stand the pompous Ahole. Can’t believe that he wasn’t recalled.

During the recall he was banging his Chief of Staff. If that got out, it would have changed some(unlikely to have made a difference) part of the population’s perception of him.

Google ‘Lindsey Cobia’.
There was like two news sources that actually covered the story.

[sakosf]

Originally Posted by Equitymind

Newscum. Can’t stand the pompous Ahole. Can’t believe that he wasn’t recalled.

Any chance of the recall being successful, was probably lost when the clear front runner to replace Newsom was likely undetectable to statewide office in this state. The failed recall attempt probably ended up leaving Newsom stronger and with campaign coffers flush with $$

[IVC]

Originally Posted by Scratch705

gavin wins politically regardless of how this law goes.

Yes, politics is advertising, messaging and optics. Outcomes virtually never matter.

Originally Posted by Scratch705

he either gets the texas abortion ban kicked out as being unconstitutional. or he forces SC to enforce this gun law.

No, it would require different legal case. If ACLU or some other organization wants to go for it, it's on their dime, not ours.

And, I personally disagree with the TX law because I see it as the abuse of the legal system through the threat of frivolous lawsuits - sure some might have merit, but the main effect of the law is to threaten expensive litigation. Something we've been on the receiving end in CA with gun laws for quite some time.

[tactic101]

Originally Posted by IVC

Yes, politics is advertising, messaging and optics. Outcomes virtually never matter.



No, it would require different legal case. If ACLU or some other organization wants to go for it, it's on their dime, not ours.

And, I personally disagree with the TX law because I see it as the abuse of the legal system through the threat of frivolous lawsuits - sure some might have merit, but the main effect of the law is to threaten expensive litigation. Something we've been on the receiving end in CA with gun laws for quite some time.

Spot on. Does any rando automatically have standing?

[IVC]

Originally Posted by tactic101

Spot on. Does any rando automatically have standing?

That's the core idea of the law. Anyone can already file a lawsuit against anyone for any reason, but without standing it gets tossed out early.

[Rgarbarino]

I have a hard time believing that anyone East of Nevada would support a Newsome run for president in 2024...

[Jimi Jah]

Those suburban women will all vote for him.

[Odd_Ball]

Originally Posted by Jimi Jah

Those suburban women will all vote for him.

Yup, a lot likely will.

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[TKM]

Originally Posted by pacrat

What is notably missing in the "Hairgel" photo in the link. Is the BIG SIGN on the front of the podium that says;


"GUN LAWS SAVE LIVES"

SO PRAY TELL, WHY, aren't the cities/states, all of which are Leftist Dem Run. With the most oppressive GUN LAWS. THE SAFEST IN THE COUNTRY?

List of which includes, but not limited to.

LA

Chicago

NYC

Wash. DC

SAN FRANCISCO

Oakland

ETC

ETC

ETC

Thanks to the Department of Educations best efforts the natives can't read the gun laws in question.

[DrjonesUSA]

Originally Posted by DentonandSasquatchShow

Here's why Newsom and the Left are morons.

The 2A is a RIGHT. Abortion is not.

Evil, not stupid.

Evil.

[Capybara]

Originally Posted by DrjonesUSA

Evil, not stupid.

Evil.

Agreed. If they were truly stupid, they'd lose many more of their infringements and tyranny in court. They're deviously crafty and they love when our side calls them stupid as they coast from victory to victory.

[Jimi Jah]

"Loser pays" tort reform would stop stupid lawsuits here.

Most 1st world countries do that. We don't because our government is made up mostly of lawyers.

[dogrunner]

Naw, best single solution to tort reform is to mandate the the identical rules of evidence apply to BOTH civil and criminal..................want to cause a cardio incident with the defense establishment, suggest that!

[Gravelman]

Newssolini.. that’s the best name for the gov.