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Old 07-06-2022, 9:48 AM
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Default Why are people calling it Bruen?

We don't refer to the Heller v D.C as the "D.C." case.

We don't refer to the McDonald v Chicago as the "Chicago" case.

So, why is everyone referring to the NYSRPA v Bruen as the "Bruen" case?
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Probably same reason they call another one Dobbs.
Does NYSRPA call themselves nye-sur-puh? I always say the entire name.
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Probably because it's easier to say Bruen then NYSRPA..

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Probably because it's easier to say Bruen then NYSRPA..

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So you're saying it's easier for people to type 5 letters than to type 6 letters?
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We don't refer to the Heller v D.C as the "D.C." case.

We don't refer to the McDonald v Chicago as the "Chicago" case.

So, why is everyone referring to the NYSRPA v Bruen as the "Bruen" case?
First, the Heller case was D.C. v. Heller. And the Supreme Court decided NYSRPA v. NYC in 2020. Bruen is the least vague name.
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First, the Heller case was D.C. v. Heller. And the Supreme Court decided NYSRPA v. NYC in 2020. Bruen is the least vague name.
I think "Bruen" and "Bonta" are going to become less vague going forward. For better or worse, I'm not sure.
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First, the Heller case was D.C. v. Heller. And the Supreme Court decided NYSRPA v. NYC in 2020. Bruen is the least vague name.
Interesting, I didn't know that.
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The NYPRA has had other cases that have reached SCOTUS. Using the secondary name, in t]his instance, makes it easier to differentiate between cases. There were several related Heller cases, but only one of them made to SCOTUS.
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Pronounce NYSRPA. Bruen is a lot easier
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“They” want to keep “Rifle and Pistol” out of the name.

I used Bruen for awhile after reading the CA AG and LATimes use that but have now switched back. The NYSRPA was the plaintiff and petitioner, so they should be named.

The first NYSRPA was mooted, so at worst this should be NYSRPA too. But if a FRAP expert says it should be NYSRPA 2 I won’t argue.

As far as pronunciation, the Leftist MSM has no problem with cases won by the ACLU or NAACP….
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Why call it "Bruen"?

I LIKE IT.

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This belongs in the "What is your first world problem today?" thread.
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yeah no one would ever call it that. just like no one would ever call the crpa crippa or cirpa

even then it's 3 syllables versus bruen's one
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I make a point of calling it the NYSRPA case and I call Heller I, Shelly Parker/Heller out of wicked righteous respect.
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Bruen is a chimp pimp and should get no recognition for his efforts.
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In "Pena v. Cid" it was "Pena." In "DC v. Heller" it was "Heller." We will use the name of our side when referring to a case, especially if it's a one-off plaintiff or defendant.

In "NYSRPA v. Bruen" we have a very broad institution on our side and a simple name on the other. So "Bruen" is the easy and unambiguous way to refer to it. If the case had plaintiff names (there were several) in the title, we would clearly use one of them and not "Bruen."

Can't call it "The NYSRPA" - we hope for many more wins where NYSRPA is the institutional plaintiff and we give them all the credit and respect they deserve, but the name must be more precise than just the name of the organization.
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Something is brewin' with Bruen.....

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So you're saying it's easier for people to type 5 letters than to type 6 letters?
Yes ... its one letter easier ...

Plus if you are talking about it, Bruen is only two syllables while NYSRPA is much more than that
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So you're saying it's easier for people to type 5 letters than to type 6 letters?
Next he'll claim $5 is less money than $6.
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We don't refer to the Heller v D.C as the "D.C." case.

We don't refer to the McDonald v Chicago as the "Chicago" case.

So, why is everyone referring to the NYSRPA v Bruen as the "Bruen" case?
Probably because NYSRPA is a name plaintiff in dozens of cases and is hard to say.
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I refer to it as NYSRPA (nye-sir-puh) because they deserve the credit, not the NY State Police.
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So you're saying it's easier for people to type 5 letters than to type 6 letters?
People say VW which has four syllables instead of say Volkswagen which only has three syllables.

People also say "ATM Machine"
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And people constantly use the reflexive “myself” instead of the correct and shorter "me," as in “Please email Bob or myself” instead of “Please email me or Bob.” Not only is the former longer, it makes absolutely no sense.
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It should be renamed to "ignored" here in California.

Just like pot and immigration laws.
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I refer to it as NYSRPA (nye-sir-puh) because they deserve the credit, not the NY State Police.
That's the surest way to create a misunderstanding and confusion. For better or worse, it's called "Bruen." Some bad guys' names stick around, it's just the fact of life. "Miranda rights" is another example.
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NYSRPA vs Bruen is the biggest case associated with Bruen or NYSRPA in the last 150 yrs. We should call it NYSRPA out of respect to all parties and we should sing about the cases history around our campfires for many years to come!
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It should be renamed to "ignored" here in California.

Just like pot and immigration laws.
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Well, we can now say that Federal Judges don't call it Bruen, so neither should we.

https://storage.courtlistener.com/re...602.48.0_4.pdf

(Hint: Bruen doesn't have standing.)
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It should be renamed to "ignored" here in California.

Just like pot and immigration laws.
We all knew the state would ignore it if were to favor 2A and it did. If it didn't they would cite left and right nonstop for everything. Saying we have been vindicated for our "gun safety" laws here. We are leaders yada yada yada.
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