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Old 11-04-2021, 3:17 AM
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Default New targets mil dot.

So I’m in touch with a ‘rite in the rain’ notepad company. They offered me targets to try out next time they print. They want feedback on 2-300 yd shots.
What difference does it make if the targets are printed in mil?
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Old 11-04-2021, 4:55 AM
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Different way of measuring. MOA is Minutes of Angle, Milradians is measured in mils.

Stupid analogy but yards versus meters. There's a difference especially of you're using a Mil scope

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Old 11-04-2021, 6:07 AM
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What difference does it make if the targets are printed in mil?
If you had turrets calibrated in mils, a reticle that didn't have hash marks or a magnification that wouldn't give bullet holes at those distances, were close to a multiple of 100 yards for distance, and 3 one tenth clicks per inch wasn't close enough, then they might be convenient.

Second focal plane scopes with the subtensions calibrated for a magnification other than what you were using to sight in might also find them convenient.

A group that might meet many of those criteria would be the AR type 1-6ish scopes with BDC reticles?
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Old 11-04-2021, 6:50 AM
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If you had turrets calibrated in mils, a reticle that didn't have hash marks or a magnification that wouldn't give bullet holes at those distances, were close to a multiple of 100 yards for distance, and 3 one tenth clicks per inch wasn't close enough, then they might be convenient.
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Old 11-04-2021, 10:50 AM
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The pragmatists in the group will call the 1" grid on standard sighting in targets 0.3 mils or 0.333" at 100 yards when the clicks are actually actually 0.360". Fire two 5 shot groups and look at how close the centers of the groups are to each other rather than their sizes and you'll see how much it actually matters.

Most of my stuff is 16x and above, so most days I can see the bullet holes at 100 yards and just use the hash marks on the reticle. If you have a 1-6X 3 gun scope and it has a bullet drop reticle set up for 223, you might not have the fine hash marks to measure with or be able to see the bullet holes at 100 yards. A grid on the target calibrated to your scope might be helpful, but those guns have even less of a problem with 0.333" instead of 0.360".

The strength of angular measurements is they're the same at any distance. If you come off of the reticle and on to marks on paper, then distance matters. It always matters for actual drops, but if you're at 143 yards multiplying what you get from the target grid by 1.43 puts a dent in the simplicity the grid is supposed to provide.

If you have a SFP scope, then attention needs to be paid to which magnification makes the reticle match the turrets, or you'll be doing math again instead of just using the reticle as a ruler.
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