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Old 04-11-2013, 4:47 PM
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Wow Randall you really nailed it... very well put.

OP, I shoot with both MIL and MOA scopes, and switch between the two often.

Some of my earlier scope purchases were MIL reticle and MOA turrets and I was quick to understand why that was a huge disadvantage after learning how to use the scopes correctly.

I have since upgraded all my glass, but due to selection and availability I have not standardized on one particular system. Both my Vortex PST scopes are MOA/MOA and both my SWFA scopes are MIL/MIL.

My brain seems to work with MOA better, but having both and using both I find that it’s really not big deal. If I had to standardize on one system I really don’t know which one I would pick, but I would probably end up in the MOA camp due to the finer resolution between clicks.

End of the day, 100% personal preference, and in my case availability driven decisions.
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Old 06-08-2013, 5:23 PM
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Awesome thread guys. Thanks for taking the time to explain something so confusing in such detail. With that being said, I still have no idea what I am going to choose, MIL or MOA. I like the idea of MOA because us Americans have been tought the standard system our entire life, but my slightly more experienced friend says MIL because it is "what the military uses" and you can find more data with that system.

It also seems to me that some of the MOA reticles would be more user friendly because of the extended reticle lines for drop. In my mind it would make it more accurate for holdoffs and windage using lines somewhat like a graph compared to having to guess into Kentucky space.
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Old 12-31-2013, 4:22 PM
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Anyone in EB know anything about dialing in scopes? I have never done it.

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Old 12-31-2013, 6:09 PM
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Originally Posted by BigPimping View Post
Anyone in EB know anything about dialing in scopes? I have never done it.
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Old 01-20-2014, 3:58 PM
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Default Like my new mil/mil Leupold Mark 6

I'm new to CalGuns, but have been shooting for 30 years. Great forum!

Coming from a lifetime of MOA/MOA scopes, the new Leupold Mark 6 3-18x44mm with the TMR reticle swayed me over to mil/mil!

The TMR reticle appears the best of both worlds in my opinion. Leupold has tick marks where the mil dots would reside with mil spacing.

My own limited thinking was once a hunting target is sized with the TMR ticks, I could more easily adjust elevation with matching mechanicals to measures, and then use the horizontal ticks to judge target speed and use the little crosshairs for windage.

After sizing a target like a deer, judging the hold-off using the same system made sense for me away.

It was an internal struggle to spend that much money on a new scope while moving off of my moa/moa comfort zone.

Mildots were always a challenge, but replacing the mildots with ticks seemed to work for me anyway.

Curious what others think.

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