Los Angeles (update 12-01-2018) *** Time to Apply***

[Hsu]

Originally Posted by baggss

You can likely buy either used, but you'll pay more for them. Its not difficult to get off roster guns, just expensive. Unless AV has a specific rule about carrying an off roster gun, that shouldn't be a roadblock either.

No rule about off roster pistols all three of mine are. The only grey area is the mags. I'm sticking with 10 for now until the legal case is decided. So far I haven't needed more than that...

[Ca2AZ]

Here's an article following up on the Sheriff's video stream. The part I found most interesting was they are reaching out to local LEA's to help with the process, so that may reduce the backlog significantly.

https://kfiam640.iheart.com/featured...er-court-case/

[9Cal_OC]

Thought I’d cross-post SB918 below. If and when you do get issued, see changes to CCW application process for all counties and restricted areas. This just passed committee and will need to be voted on.

https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/f...202120220SB918

26230. (a) A person granted a license to carry a pistol, revolver, or other firearm capable of being concealed upon the person pursuant to Section 26150, 26155, or 26170 shall not carry a firearm on or into any of the following:
(1) A place prohibited by Section 626.9.
(2) A building, real property, or parking area under the control of a preschool or childcare facility, including a room or portion of a building under the control of a preschool or childcare facility. Nothing in this paragraph shall prevent the operator of a childcare facility in a family home from owning or possessing a firearm in the home if no child under child care at the home is present in the home or the firearm in the home is unloaded, stored in a locked container, and stored separately from ammunition when a child under child care at the home is present in the home so long as the childcare provider notifies clients that there is a firearm in the home.
(3) A building, parking area, or portion of a building under the control of an officer of the executive or legislative branch of the state government.
(4) A building designated for a court proceeding, including matters before a superior court, district court of appeal, or the California Supreme Court, parking area under the control of the owner or operator of that building, or a building or portion of a building under the control of the Supreme Court.
(5) A building, parking area, or portion of a building under the control of a unit of local government, unless the firearm is being carried for purposes of training pursuant to Section 26165.
(6) A building, real property, and parking area under the control of an adult or juvenile detention or correctional institution, prison, or jail.
(7) A building, real property, and parking area under the control of a public or private hospital or hospital affiliate, mental health facility, nursing home, medical office, urgent care facility, or other place at which medical services are customarily provided.
(8) A bus, train, or other form of transportation paid for in whole or in part with public funds, and a building, real property, or parking area under the control of a transportation authority supported in whole or in part with public funds.
(9) A building, real property, and parking area under the control of a vendor or an establishment where intoxicating liquor is sold for consumption on the premises.
(10) A public gathering or special event conducted on property open to the public that requires the issuance of a permit from a federal, state, or local government and sidewalk or street immediately adjacent to the public gathering or special event but is not more than 1,000 feet from the event or gathering, provided this prohibition shall not apply to a licensee who must walk through a public gathering in order to access their residence, place of business, or vehicle.
(11) A playground or public or private youth center, as defined in Section 626.95, and a street or sidewalk immediately adjacent to the playground or youth center.
(12) A park, athletic area, or athletic facility that is open to the public and a street or sidewalk immediately adjacent to those areas, provided this prohibition shall not apply to a licensee who must walk through such a place in order to access their residence, place of business, or vehicle.
(13) Real property under the control of the Department of Parks and Recreation or Department of Fish and Wildlife, except those areas designated for hunting pursuant to Section 5003.1 of the Public Resources Code, Section 4501 of Title 14 of the California Code of Regulations, or any other designated public hunting area, public shooting ground, or building where firearm possession is permitted by applicable law.
(14) Any area under the control of a public or private community college, college, or university, including, but not limited to, buildings, classrooms, laboratories, medical clinics, hospitals, artistic venues, athletic fields or venues, entertainment venues, officially recognized university-related organization properties, whether owned or leased, and any real property, including parking areas, sidewalks, and common areas.
(15) A building, real property, or parking area that is or would be used for gambling or gaming of any kind whatsoever, including, but not limited to, casinos, gambling establishments, gaming clubs, bingo operations, facilities licensed by the California Horse Racing Board, or a facility wherein banked or percentage games, any form of gambling device, or lotteries, other than the California State Lottery, are or will be played.
(16) A stadium, arena, or the real property or parking area under the control of a stadium, arena, or a collegiate or professional sporting or eSporting event.
(17) A building, real property, or parking area under the control of a public library.
(18) A building, real property, or parking area under the control of an airport or passenger vessel terminal, as those terms are defined in subdivision (a) of Section 171.5.
(19) A building, real property, or parking area under the control of an amusement park.
(20) A building, real property, or parking area under the control of a zoo or museum.
(21) A street, driveway, parking area, property, building, or facility, owned, leased, controlled, or used by a nuclear energy, storage, weapons, or development site or facility regulated by the federal Nuclear Regulatory Commission.
(22) A church, synagogue, mosque, or other place of worship, including in any parking area immediately adjacent thereto, unless the operator of the place of worship clearly and conspicuously posts a sign at the entrance of the building or on the premises indicating that license holders are permitted to carry firearms on the property. Signs shall be of a uniform design as prescribed by the Department of Justice and shall be at least four inches by six inches in size.
(23) A financial institution or parking area under the control of a financial institution.
(24) A police, sheriff, or highway patrol station or parking area under control of a law enforcement agency.
(25) A polling place, voting center, precinct, or other area or location where votes are being cast or cast ballots are being returned or counted, or the streets or sidewalks immediately adjacent to any of these places.
(26) Any other privately-owned commercial establishment that is open to the public, unless the operator of the establishment clearly and conspicuously posts a sign at the entrance of the building or on the premises indicating that license holders are permitted to carry firearms on the property. Signs shall be of a uniform design as prescribed by the Department of Justice and shall be at least four inches by six inches in size.
(27) Any other place or area prohibited by other provisions of state law.
(28) An area where firearms are prohibited under federal law.

Exception includes leaving it in your car should you be at a restricted place defeating the purpose of CCW:

Notwithstanding subdivision (a), except under paragraph (21) or (28) of subdivision (a), a licensee prohibited from carrying a concealed firearm into the parking area of a prohibited location specified in subdivision (a) shall be allowed to:
(1) Transport a concealed firearm or ammunition within a vehicle into or out of the parking area so long as the firearm is locked in a lock box.
(2) Store ammunition or a firearm within a locked lock box and out of plain view within the vehicle in the parking area.
(3) Transport a concealed firearm in the immediate area surrounding their vehicle within a prohibited parking lot area only for the limited purpose of storing or retrieving a firearm within a locked lock box in the vehicle’s trunk or other place inside the vehicle that is out of plain view.

[thethreegs]

Yup, count on California to completely screw over all current and future CCWers. This is grossly unconstitutional but will likely pass. It will take years of lawsuits to strike down.

This bill is so over the top it's really hard to process right now.

[michaelh1951]

Originally Posted by Ayy Lmao

LAPD seems to be setting up their CCW website right now

https://www.lapdonline.org/ccw-carry...eapon-license/

Right, but they are still proudly stating "may issue"

[michaelh1951]

Originally Posted by 9Cal_OC

Thought I’d cross-post SB918 below. If and when you do get issued, see changes to CCW application process for all counties and restricted areas. This just passed committee and will need to be voted on.

https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/f...202120220SB918



Exception includes leaving it in your car should you be at a restricted place defeating the purpose of CCW:

Yes, #26 is the same one that Kathy Yokel in New York pushed, and the biggest problem in my opinion. Other than gun stores, how many businesses will put a "guns welcome" sign by the door?

Let's see if the bodyguards of Hollywood elite conform to that rule, plus the ones about auditoriums and such


All this, in my mind, suggests that at least one of everyone's carry arms should be a tiny pocket pistol. Reduced stopping power is better than zero stopping power.

[KidCharlemagne]

I'm going to be applying soon for the initial ccw.

Should I disclose being handcuffed in the past on my application (About in 2010?) I was a roommate and the landlord wanted to evict another roommate; landlord got in a heated discussion and did an illegal eviction of a roommate by moving out his stuff to the curb. Landlord called the local Police Dept and said that roommate had guns and wanted to take his vendetta out on the roommate. Police came and handcuffed everyone including the landlord. Twas just an innocent bystander. I was not carrying, nor was I a gunowner at the time.

[09cs]

WIth this announcement, what does that mean for us currently in the process? I have submitted additional documentation to support my GC. With this, will that change anything?

[Mguzman74]

Time line update
9/22/21 submitted application to lasd
6/30/22 received call for interview
7/20/22 interview date
Instructions for interview
Valid California driver's license or
ID (must show your name and
current address)
Birth certificate or Passport
Utility bill (must show your name
and current address, cannot be past
due No cell phone bills
DD 214 (if applicable)

[menancyandsam]

So just before submitting to LASD I reached out to Burbank PD (I reside in Burbank) to see if they are accepting apps. They said yes. I furthered inquired that I wanted to know where is the best place for a Burbank resident to apply, BPD or LASD. As I was waiting for the Officer to get someone to help me., another officer overhearing me stated that someone he knows was told by LASD to take his app to BPD. I ask was that recently he said yes.

Oblivious I don't know what the out come will be . I'll post here what happens. But it looks like BPD may be changing their issuance standards.

[ProRoad]

Nice to know they are now starting on Late Sept apps! That's the latest I have seen.

Also good to see that BPD is taking apps in the process.

[09cs]

Originally Posted by ProRoad

Nice to know they are now starting on Late Sept apps! That's the latest I have seen.

oh no, I applied in June of 2021!!! Still going through the process, interviewing deputy asked for some more documentation last week. Just wondering how this will impact my pending app

[Immortal547]

Originally Posted by Hsu

No rule about off roster pistols all three of mine are. The only grey area is the mags. I'm sticking with 10 for now until the legal case is decided. So far I haven't needed more than that...

Please don’t spread misinformation. There is no gray area. Magazines that can hold more than 10 rounds are legal as long as you obtained them legally. The magazines themselves are not in question. You can do what you wish but the official stance from LASD is legal as long as you obtained them legally.

[ProRoad]

Originally Posted by 09cs

oh no, I applied in June of 2021!!! Still going through the process, interviewing deputy asked for some more documentation last week. Just wondering how this will impact my pending app

My post above had nothing to do with your situation. Mine, and yours are still in progress, (June apps). There is no GC standard anymore so that point is moot. I only mentioned that its nice to see a "date" that is finally getting to late Sept applications. This thread keeps track of those details.

[The Tiger]

Looking at the application now

It asks if you have ever had a permit, do you list non-resident permits from other states?

[alexcue]

Originally Posted by The Tiger

Looking at the application now

It asks if you have ever had a permit, do you list non-resident permits from other states?

I did, two extra pages.

[Ocdlaw]

The church one is a little bit comical (in the darkest of humor kind of way) because my church pastor just asked me to apply for a CCW (I'm a former LEO and an usher) after one of our members was murdered by a criminal while visiting his mother's church 2 miles from us.

[Ocdlaw]

So basically, bodyguards are going to be unarmed almost everywhere. I wonder how the elite are going to like that? All it does is create a whole new list of "gun free" kill zones for criminals.

[SteveHamn]

Torrance resident here, is worth applying with TPD or should I go straight to LASD? I know the Sherriff said you should apply with your local PD but as long as it's still allowed it seems like going straight to LASD saves a step of beuracracy. I have no idea how TPD compares to LASD.

[stevie]

Originally Posted by SteveHamn

Torrance resident here, is worth applying with TPD or should I go straight to LASD? I know the Sherriff said you should apply with your local PD but as long as it's still allowed it seems like going straight to LASD saves a step of beuracracy. I have no idea how TPD compares to LASD.

Go straight to LASD. Unless things changed with Torrance, you will need to apply (money), get finger printer (money) just to have them tell you do not qualify. Torrance will not tell you "NO" until you pay all fees and get results from background check. You lose money and time. Been there and done that.

[09cs]

Originally Posted by ProRoad

My post above had nothing to do with your situation. Mine, and yours are still in progress, (June apps). There is no GC standard anymore so that point is moot. I only mentioned that its nice to see a "date" that is finally getting to late Sept applications. This thread keeps track of those details.

Sorry about that.

[lexo98]

So did you that recently applied with LASD skip the section asking for good cause?

[marcusrn]

Originally Posted by m1abob

You know I was wondering on my denial letter I have a phone number of a sergeant it says that if we have any questions about our denial we can call this person. I did call this person when I was first denied and he said there’s nothing he can do since I was already denied but now with the recent changes I’m wondering instead of emailing CCW unit why not just call him? Maybe I can get a direct answer

Your direct answer will sound like blah,blah, but translates "Go away"! If you are a serious person always get LEO in writing or video. Do email. Cops are paid to lie, it's writen in their Policies and procedures.

[bailguy247]

Application 8/4/2021
check cashed 9/17/2021
interview 5/31/2022
live scan 5/31/2022
still waiting

[m1abob]

Originally Posted by marcusrn

Your direct answer will sound like blah,blah, but translates "Go away"! If you are a serious person always get LEO in writing or video. Do email. Cops are paid to lie, it's writen in their Policies and procedures.

Lol I guess you have a point either way I wrote an email to the CCW unit asking if they would reinstate me from where I left off. We’ll see if I ever hear back from them. In the meantime I have finally gotten all the paperwork finished to go ahead with my restraining order that I was going to get for those of you who have followed me in the past you know what I’m talking about. For those who are unaware in short I’ve been getting threats by someone that I used to be friends with he is bipolar and schizophrenic. He has an illusion in his mind that I’m out to get him so I’ve been getting a lot of pretty scary threats from him and he finally ended up trying to kill his father recently and he’s now sitting in jail with a felony. I am still proceeding with this restraining order because I’m still worried if he has others to come after me and my family.

I’ll keep u guys posted with anything info I receive

[EDRB]

Originally Posted by SteveHamn

Torrance resident here, is worth applying with TPD or should I go straight to LASD? I know the Sherriff said you should apply with your local PD but as long as it's still allowed it seems like going straight to LASD saves a step of beuracracy. I have no idea how TPD compares to LASD.

I would apply through TPD, As long as you have a clean background they have no reason to deny you and if they do, Sue them.

[mit31]

Firearms is running 3+ months. I livescanned 4/22. Still waiting. Its only going to get worse.

Originally Posted by bailguy247

Application 8/4/2021
check cashed 9/17/2021
interview 5/31/2022
live scan 5/31/2022
still waiting

[ProRoad]

and here is the Firearms DOJ portion thread: https://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/...1712640&page=3

[seaweedsoyboy]

Anyone get a response regarding LASD re-considering recent denials for GC?

[Imist!]

No response but I did drop by a substation.
I was told to re-apply. After explaining that it would put me behind everyone already waiting, the gentleman said he had 200 new applications on his desk.

If every station has 200 new applications, that is nearly 5000 NEW applications.
So re-applying is likely a several year process.

[ngnrnlo]

I still hope that all those who were recently denied would get a call-back, like those who were denied last year prior to AV issuing for yellow GC.

The online application system that AV promised may also be started soon, expediting the process.

[LAKA90034]

Submitted my packet with LASD today with “defense of self, protection of family” in the GC box.

The substation in Marina Del Rey would not take it, the station in West Hollywood took it very politely, made sure that I filled out the necessary sections, and that I signed the appropriate pages.

He then took payment and issued me a receipt with my name on it.

We’ll see how it goes from here.

[m1abob]

Originally Posted by ngnrnlo

I still hope that all those who were recently denied would get a call-back, like those who were denied last year prior to AV issuing for yellow GC.

The online application system that AV promised may also be started soon, expediting the process.

I'm crossing my fingers for this as well.. It's a long wait and also we already paid money for application and live scan... They expect us to repay these fees and to get back to the end of line ? I really hope not... You now I really thought law enforcement cared about us, growing up as a kid.. Now as an adult I can see that I was completely wrong. It's so sad to wake up to reality.

[marcusrn]

Originally Posted by m1abob

I'm crossing my fingers for this as well.. It's a long wait and also we already paid money for application and live scan... They expect us to repay these fees and to get back to the end of line ? I really hope not... You now I really thought law enforcement cared about us, growing up as a kid.. Now as an adult I can see that I was completely wrong. It's so sad to wake up to reality.

LEO in Uvalde care about you M1A, LASO and LAPD, not so much!!! Some think a TRO gives you effective LTC, I'm not a lawyer but as you can see I do shoot my mouth off quite a bit. Schizoaffective d/o is a very serious incurable disease. It's fashionable to let them out of jail no matter how bad they act out. Protect yourself the best you can. Make sure cops record what you tell them cause they will not want liability. I would think TRO would bring you to the front of line from my experience.

[marcusrn]

In future dealing with people with psych diagnosis threatening you. You always want a police report each time this happens. Especially if they're breaking the TRO. You want the cop to know that you are going to police station ASAP to get copy of report. They know that they're not going to do much to protect you because they don't have the staff. So they downplay the written report and shaet talk you. You got to actually go to station (I kid you not) get report and see that they reported what you told them. Use phone to record your police report. If they didn't you get watch commander and initiate formal complaint against cop who downplayed or lied about your report. The idea is someones making terrorist threats against you and I know they usually don't want to deal with it because "some MD will deal with it". You want to present these written reports dirictly to LA Licencing Division and you want the reports written as you reported. For 10 yrs I did psych evals at police stations and Emergency Departments (20 hospitals) in Orange County. Lots of folks were Meth and drug addicts with violent history and quick to make death threats. San Diego Sheriffs gave me lots of shaet and refused to give me equal treatment until I sued in Peruta. By all objective data you should be at front of line and they should be liable if they dyk with you! Mark Cleary

[SteveHamn]

Does anyone know if the SSN is required? I know personal privacy people tell you that you never have to give it out except for applying for a job and taxes. I don't want to give them a reason to reject me, but if there's another leak that's something I really don't want leaked.