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Old 06-23-2022, 4:30 PM
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Moved to SD from a ban county and I've been lazy about applying. After the ruling yesterday I thought I should apply before the system really gets jammed up. The first appointment was Jan 9! I guess I keep looking to see if anything frees up earlier.
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They better get some more rubber stamps!......
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Valentines Day.... I hope the investigator is hot.
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Old 06-23-2022, 7:44 PM
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Well, after going back and forth all day, I finally submitted my application. Theres going to be a massive influx of CCW applications in the coming days/weeks/months and I figured I better get in line now. Business is about to be booming for CCW instructors.
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Old 06-23-2022, 7:50 PM
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Anybody know if we can get our training in before the appointment?


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Old 06-24-2022, 3:59 AM
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All of the information that you will need is on the website. 14 pages of instructions.
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Old 06-24-2022, 5:58 AM
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With 5+ months just to get the first paperwork appointment, this being before the ruling, I can't imagine how long it will take after thousands more apply. The good cause statement seems like it would be the least time consuming part of the process.
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Old 06-24-2022, 7:43 AM
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Think they'll pull my app out of the Peruta file and put me in front of the line?

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Old 06-26-2022, 8:59 PM
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Do we still need to fill out the good cause part with the ruling?
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Old 06-26-2022, 9:12 PM
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Do we still need to fill out the good cause part with the ruling?
I put self defense.
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A friend checked out the wait time for the first appt today - Some time Apr 2023. Hope they can find a way to be more efficient, or find more processors.
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Old 06-28-2022, 9:42 AM
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Endless delays are as effective as a ban.
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Old 06-28-2022, 9:55 AM
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Endless delays are as effective as a ban.
court already said, licensed with reasonable timeframe wonder how long before more lawsuits are filled for delays.
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Old 06-28-2022, 3:39 PM
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I think the process will speed up significantly or at least in theory now that good cause is eliminated. That is where the delay is IMO. Now that they can standardize all the checks and process for each applicant the only limiting factor should be the amount of applications vs the amount of staff.

Application complete>background clean>Class taken>fees paid>approved is how I imagine it.
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Old 06-28-2022, 8:33 PM
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I think the process will speed up significantly or at least in theory now that good cause is eliminated. That is where the delay is IMO. Now that they can standardize all the checks and process for each applicant the only limiting factor should be the amount of applications vs the amount of staff.

Application complete>background clean>Class taken>fees paid>approved is how I imagine it.
It all depends on what shenanigans Newscum and Bonta pull. If they start throwing in requirements like a psych test, reference letters, etc., it's going to get uglier.
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Old 06-28-2022, 8:49 PM
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Had my interview yesterday. They said it's taking like 100 days right now. Especially since the influx of calls/Applications they're getting. It shouldn't effect existing applicants, but looks like they're just trying to buy time. Had to initial my good cause statement too. The lady didn't say anything about whether or not it will be the deciding factor though.
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Will be curious to see how this affects renewals. Can you imagine having a CCW for 6 years or so and now suddenly for your next renewal there is closer "moral character" scrutiny? Or worse yet they subjectively deny your renewal on that basis...yet you were perfectly fine to conceal carry for years before...they'll have some explaining to do when that lawsuit hits.
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Old 06-29-2022, 8:53 PM
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Will be curious to see how this affects renewals. Can you imagine having a CCW for 6 years or so and now suddenly for your next renewal there is closer "moral character" scrutiny? Or worse yet they subjectively deny your renewal on that basis...yet you were perfectly fine to conceal carry for years before...they'll have some explaining to do when that lawsuit hits.
Oh yea. I can ABSOLUTELY imagine that nonsense.

Can you imagine the San Diego Sheriff asking for a 200% fee increase? He's already asked for it.

Can you imagine Newscum adding a psych eval requirement to the state requirements...and how much that will cost? Probably a minimum of $150.

At what point does the financial cost of exercising my God given and constitutionally protected right become excessively burdensome?

Because I would argue we're already way past that point...$400-ish for the initial permit and $200-ish every two freaking years?
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Old 06-30-2022, 9:18 AM
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So after all the expense and hassle to go through this process the clowns of Excremento dox you and tell every criminal how many and which guns you have?
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Old 06-30-2022, 9:22 AM
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Thought I’d cross-post SB918 below. If and when you do get issued, see changes to CCW application process for all counties and restricted areas. This just passed committee and will need to be voted on.

https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/f...202120220SB918

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26230. (a) A person granted a license to carry a pistol, revolver, or other firearm capable of being concealed upon the person pursuant to Section 26150, 26155, or 26170 shall not carry a firearm on or into any of the following:
(1) A place prohibited by Section 626.9.
(2) A building, real property, or parking area under the control of a preschool or childcare facility, including a room or portion of a building under the control of a preschool or childcare facility. Nothing in this paragraph shall prevent the operator of a childcare facility in a family home from owning or possessing a firearm in the home if no child under child care at the home is present in the home or the firearm in the home is unloaded, stored in a locked container, and stored separately from ammunition when a child under child care at the home is present in the home so long as the childcare provider notifies clients that there is a firearm in the home.
(3) A building, parking area, or portion of a building under the control of an officer of the executive or legislative branch of the state government.
(4) A building designated for a court proceeding, including matters before a superior court, district court of appeal, or the California Supreme Court, parking area under the control of the owner or operator of that building, or a building or portion of a building under the control of the Supreme Court.
(5) A building, parking area, or portion of a building under the control of a unit of local government, unless the firearm is being carried for purposes of training pursuant to Section 26165.
(6) A building, real property, and parking area under the control of an adult or juvenile detention or correctional institution, prison, or jail.
(7) A building, real property, and parking area under the control of a public or private hospital or hospital affiliate, mental health facility, nursing home, medical office, urgent care facility, or other place at which medical services are customarily provided.
(8) A bus, train, or other form of transportation paid for in whole or in part with public funds, and a building, real property, or parking area under the control of a transportation authority supported in whole or in part with public funds.
(9) A building, real property, and parking area under the control of a vendor or an establishment where intoxicating liquor is sold for consumption on the premises.
(10) A public gathering or special event conducted on property open to the public that requires the issuance of a permit from a federal, state, or local government and sidewalk or street immediately adjacent to the public gathering or special event but is not more than 1,000 feet from the event or gathering, provided this prohibition shall not apply to a licensee who must walk through a public gathering in order to access their residence, place of business, or vehicle.
(11) A playground or public or private youth center, as defined in Section 626.95, and a street or sidewalk immediately adjacent to the playground or youth center.
(12) A park, athletic area, or athletic facility that is open to the public and a street or sidewalk immediately adjacent to those areas, provided this prohibition shall not apply to a licensee who must walk through such a place in order to access their residence, place of business, or vehicle.
(13) Real property under the control of the Department of Parks and Recreation or Department of Fish and Wildlife, except those areas designated for hunting pursuant to Section 5003.1 of the Public Resources Code, Section 4501 of Title 14 of the California Code of Regulations, or any other designated public hunting area, public shooting ground, or building where firearm possession is permitted by applicable law.
(14) Any area under the control of a public or private community college, college, or university, including, but not limited to, buildings, classrooms, laboratories, medical clinics, hospitals, artistic venues, athletic fields or venues, entertainment venues, officially recognized university-related organization properties, whether owned or leased, and any real property, including parking areas, sidewalks, and common areas.
(15) A building, real property, or parking area that is or would be used for gambling or gaming of any kind whatsoever, including, but not limited to, casinos, gambling establishments, gaming clubs, bingo operations, facilities licensed by the California Horse Racing Board, or a facility wherein banked or percentage games, any form of gambling device, or lotteries, other than the California State Lottery, are or will be played.
(16) A stadium, arena, or the real property or parking area under the control of a stadium, arena, or a collegiate or professional sporting or eSporting event.
(17) A building, real property, or parking area under the control of a public library.
(18) A building, real property, or parking area under the control of an airport or passenger vessel terminal, as those terms are defined in subdivision (a) of Section 171.5.
(19) A building, real property, or parking area under the control of an amusement park.
(20) A building, real property, or parking area under the control of a zoo or museum.
(21) A street, driveway, parking area, property, building, or facility, owned, leased, controlled, or used by a nuclear energy, storage, weapons, or development site or facility regulated by the federal Nuclear Regulatory Commission.
(22) A church, synagogue, mosque, or other place of worship, including in any parking area immediately adjacent thereto, unless the operator of the place of worship clearly and conspicuously posts a sign at the entrance of the building or on the premises indicating that license holders are permitted to carry firearms on the property. Signs shall be of a uniform design as prescribed by the Department of Justice and shall be at least four inches by six inches in size.
(23) A financial institution or parking area under the control of a financial institution.
(24) A police, sheriff, or highway patrol station or parking area under control of a law enforcement agency.
(25) A polling place, voting center, precinct, or other area or location where votes are being cast or cast ballots are being returned or counted, or the streets or sidewalks immediately adjacent to any of these places.
(26) Any other privately-owned commercial establishment that is open to the public, unless the operator of the establishment clearly and conspicuously posts a sign at the entrance of the building or on the premises indicating that license holders are permitted to carry firearms on the property. Signs shall be of a uniform design as prescribed by the Department of Justice and shall be at least four inches by six inches in size.
(27) Any other place or area prohibited by other provisions of state law.
(28) An area where firearms are prohibited under federal law.
Exception includes leaving it in your car should you be at a restricted place defeating the purpose of CCW:

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Notwithstanding subdivision (a), except under paragraph (21) or (28) of subdivision (a), a licensee prohibited from carrying a concealed firearm into the parking area of a prohibited location specified in subdivision (a) shall be allowed to:
(1) Transport a concealed firearm or ammunition within a vehicle into or out of the parking area so long as the firearm is locked in a lock box.
(2) Store ammunition or a firearm within a locked lock box and out of plain view within the vehicle in the parking area.
(3) Transport a concealed firearm in the immediate area surrounding their vehicle within a prohibited parking lot area only for the limited purpose of storing or retrieving a firearm within a locked lock box in the vehicle’s trunk or other place inside the vehicle that is out of plain view.
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Thought Id cross-post SB918 below. If and when you do get issued, see changes to CCW application process for all counties and restricted areas. This just passed committee and will need to be voted on.

https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/f...202120220SB918



Exception includes leaving it in your car should you be at a restricted place defeating the purpose of CCW:
In other words, whats the point then. Jesus, I hate this state.
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This will not survive under Bruen.
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Old 06-30-2022, 12:37 PM
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This will not survive under Bruen.
I'm sure the state can produce some historical photographs showing signs in public places stating that it's okay to carry on the premises. And you know they're real because they didn't have photoshop back then.
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In the Old West, didn't some towns prohibit the carrying of guns? Could they try and use that for historical reference?
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Tombstone had visitors check in their guns in the 1800's.

Could it be safer/wiser to carry illegally vs registering as a CCW holder and getting doxed by the State of California?
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Tombstone had visitors check in their guns in the 1800's.

Could it be safer/wiser to carry illegally vs registering as a CCW holder and getting doxed by the State of California?
Or be so restricted in where you can legally carry as a CCW holder?
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