|
California 2nd Amend. Political Discussion & Activism Discuss gun rights activism and 2A related political topics here. All advice given is NOT legal counsel. |
|
Thread Tools | Display Modes |
#1
|
|||
|
|||
Doing my part to give the finger to ca.
As of this week, I will no longer do any business with anyone in Ca unless it is absolutely necessary.
I will still buy fuel, food, etc. basic needs. Anything and everything else I will purchase out of state. Nevada is two hours away. My wife and I have planned to buy a new vehicle. We are waiting until we get ready to move to Idaho. At that time we will purchase the vehicle in Idaho. My purpose, not give komifornia any more of my money than needed. I strongly suggest everyone else follow this line of thinking. There are work arounds. The internet, driving over to the next state exc. You really want to hurt anyone? Hit them in the pocketbook. |
#2
|
||||
|
||||
Hmm. I might have to consider this strategy myself. Why feed the beast?
__________________
"Show me a young conservative and I'll show you a man without a heart. Show me an old liberal and I'll show you a man without a brain." - Sir Winston Churchill "I would remind you that extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice! And let me remind you also that moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue!" - Senator Barry Goldwater |
#3
|
||||
|
||||
Kudos to you! There is something obviously wrong with how CA government is running this state!
Quote:
|
#5
|
||||
|
||||
Because you dont have the balls to actually participate in real civil disobedience. LOL
__________________
The Rifle on the Wall "“[S]cientific proof” of both gun-rights and gun-control theories “is very hard to get”; therefore, requiring “some substantial scientific proof to show that a [firearm] law will indeed substantially reduce crime and injury” is tantamount to applying strict scrutiny to, and almost certainly will lead to invalidation of, the law." - Kamala Harris Lawyers and their Stockholm Syndrome |
#7
|
||||
|
||||
So are boycotts, except those that participate in them do not take on any personal risk whatsoever.
__________________
The Rifle on the Wall "“[S]cientific proof” of both gun-rights and gun-control theories “is very hard to get”; therefore, requiring “some substantial scientific proof to show that a [firearm] law will indeed substantially reduce crime and injury” is tantamount to applying strict scrutiny to, and almost certainly will lead to invalidation of, the law." - Kamala Harris Lawyers and their Stockholm Syndrome |
#8
|
||||
|
||||
Leaving is part of the plan.
Staying is part of the problem.
__________________
God so loved the world He gave His only Son... Believe in Him and have everlasting life. John 3:16 NRA,,, Lifer United Air Epic Fail Video ... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u99Q7pNAjvg |
#9
|
||||
|
||||
Quote:
There are many categories, from active to passive resistance and economic to cultural to symbolic resistance (such as the student standing in front of the tank in Tiananmen Square). Thing is, in order to succeed, nearly every one of these tactics and strategies has to be employed. There is no one-hit-kill tactic that works all by itself, and making fun of people who choose one tactic or strategy over another is self-defeating. This is indeed a team sport, but we must use ALL the tactics, from those that involve high personal risk to those that don't. |
#10
|
||||
|
||||
I know that when I left CA and when any one else leaves CA that CA isn't impacted negatively and CA simply doesn't care. They will rapidly be replaced by out of state Democrat oriented millennials moving into CA seeking jobs and a better life for them and sanctuary residents as well. More come in than go out. The only ones who benefit are CA and the ones that leave for other states.. A win win so to say....
|
#11
|
||||
|
||||
Quote:
|
#12
|
|||
|
|||
I most certainly will.
I’ve simply had enough. My vote does not count here as n comifornia. I have no voice here. So, off to free America where my voice will be heard, my vote counts and others appreciate my contributions to society. Will the last patriotic American leaving komifornia please bring the flag with you. |
#13
|
|||
|
|||
Oh, you will pay higher taxes to pay for the train to no where. To enforce the evil straw ban, to pay for illegal aliens bringing diseases, crime etc.
That’s why you will pay higher taxes. Not because I have made a choice to abandon ship as it is sinking. I’m heading for dry land and I highly recommend you all do the same. Komifornia is lost. Nothing will bring it back. |
#14
|
||||
|
||||
Kudos, and flip the bird to Sac on the way out
__________________
Quote:
https://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/....php?t=1884858 |
#16
|
||||
|
||||
Quote:
In Idaho, conservative Republicans dominate, so obviously, no shats are given, nor even thought of. Quote:
We did it as a family 30 years ago...no regrets whatsoever.
__________________
True wealth is time. Time to enjoy life. Life's journey is not to arrive safely in a well preserved body, but rather to slide in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "holy schit...what a ride"!! Heaven goes by favor. If it went by merit, you would stay out and your dog would go in. Mark Twain A man's soul can be judged by the way he treats his dog. Charles Doran Last edited by -hanko; 07-06-2019 at 6:19 PM.. |
#17
|
|||
|
|||
Good luck with that. You will still end up paying sales tax on item's purchased on the internet, (see South Dakota Vs Wayfair) Calif jumped on that band wagon real quick. You will still pay income tax, as well as the highest gas tax in the nation.
So while your thought is a noble one, you end up being more like Don Quixote charging windmill's, in other words a futile attempt. |
#18
|
|||
|
|||
My way is simple: a Prop-13 protected (1975) rental generates income that goes out of state, while enjoying very low property taxes collected by the proletariat.
There are other ways, such as non-California vehicle license (a matching DL goes a long way to "legitimize" such), major purchases in Nevada or Washington, etc. Some are more symbolic: bringing back non-CARB powered equipment; plumbing fixtures that actually work; wood-burning stoves; gasoline cans that actually work; lawn darts, and when visiting Malibu (or God forbid Santa Monica) a few boxes of plastic drinking straws to hand out to others in restaurants. Basically, anything to go against the grain of the Nanny State and all the Snowflake ideas and policies. |
#20
|
|||
|
|||
I’m only buying the bare necessities until I exit this god forsaken hell hole.
Yes, I get it. I will be taxed on items I purchase on the internet. It worth the extra tip me and money it will take to make a Nevada trim once a month. Other than that I’m really not going to give any more than I absolutely have to to this state. |
#22
|
||||
|
||||
Not for long.
__________________
The Rifle on the Wall "“[S]cientific proof” of both gun-rights and gun-control theories “is very hard to get”; therefore, requiring “some substantial scientific proof to show that a [firearm] law will indeed substantially reduce crime and injury” is tantamount to applying strict scrutiny to, and almost certainly will lead to invalidation of, the law." - Kamala Harris Lawyers and their Stockholm Syndrome |
#23
|
|||
|
|||
Quote:
You are correct and I am also moving to Idaho as soon as possible. My daughter and her family are already there. We visited them 6 months ago and we loved it. Little town called Payette on the border with Oregon. **** California. So many rude people, bad drivers, gangs, homeless, flat out criminals. SoCal has become the epitome or the “rats in a cage” syndrome and it’s going to get worse. Our vote doesn’t count, high taxes, illegals who should have never stepped foot in this country killing our citizens. You name something bad and CA. has it. Oh yeah the weather is nice and there is the beach and the mountains......NOT worth it..... Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
#24
|
|||
|
|||
Quote:
Now if we are successful at hurting California ? Won't these very ignorant and maybe stupid democrats re- locate to another state for work or even welfare if they incapable of holding a job? Just thinking maybe we should consider getting every democrat to move here. We are working on re-location as well and expect by Jan2020 we will be voting in a REDSTATE for liberty ! Last edited by ja308; 07-07-2019 at 10:03 AM.. |
#26
|
||||
|
||||
Quote:
__________________
http://govnews.ca.gov/gov39mail/mail.php Thank your neighbor and fellow gun owners for passing Prop 63. For that gun control is a winning legislative agenda. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z6Dj8tdSC1A contact the governor https://govnews.ca.gov/gov39mail/mail.php In Memory of Spc Torres May 5th 2006 al-Hillah, Iraq. I will miss you my friend. NRA Life Member. |
#27
|
||||
|
||||
Quote:
I'm trying to make it to retirement in 8.5 years and I'm gone. If/when Prop 13 falls I'll be selling my house and outta here.
__________________
http://govnews.ca.gov/gov39mail/mail.php Thank your neighbor and fellow gun owners for passing Prop 63. For that gun control is a winning legislative agenda. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z6Dj8tdSC1A contact the governor https://govnews.ca.gov/gov39mail/mail.php In Memory of Spc Torres May 5th 2006 al-Hillah, Iraq. I will miss you my friend. NRA Life Member. Last edited by chris; 07-07-2019 at 8:57 AM.. |
#28
|
|||
|
|||
Quote:
So will these tactics work to restore our system of constitutionally guaranteed rights ? Will it hurt the revolutionaries ,who have opened our borders to foreign invasion, restricted our speech, attacked our gun rights ,belittled our faiths ,created laws protecting infanticide ,ignored our own war for Independence, and have made a mockery of American greatness and justice? Fortunately these democrat revolutionaries have currently only 18 states to their credit, while we republicans have 32 ! Nice to know for those wanting to consolidate powers in free states have lots of choices are available! Last edited by ja308; 07-07-2019 at 9:06 AM.. |
#31
|
||||
|
||||
Quote:
Sadly, they don't change their thinking or voting when they move to a free state. Because that would require them to admit they were wrong about everything they believe in. And that just can't be.
__________________
"Show me a young conservative and I'll show you a man without a heart. Show me an old liberal and I'll show you a man without a brain." - Sir Winston Churchill "I would remind you that extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice! And let me remind you also that moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue!" - Senator Barry Goldwater |
#32
|
||||
|
||||
Not sure how high end you are referring to here but there is gazillion ways for the super rich to legally "evade" taxes. I wouldn't be surprised if Romney or President Trump paid a less tax rate % than me. No pun intended because they are probably still paying way more than me.
|
#33
|
|||
|
|||
Exactly correct philosophy, because the California democrat party plan is to drive out Republicans .
While this might seem like a move to create Utopia. The reality could be quite a bit different. Some problems that might occur would be those replacing working and or affluent republicans could be deadbeats from others states. Of course California state government loves Illegal immigrants and they will also need extra resources and the minority MS13 types will wreak evermore havoc on a population they know are disarmed. See John Lott (more guns equal less crime) Many republicans who have left this state had savings and brokerage accounts that also get moved. That could cause a shortage of capital for new construction, lending,etc. All in all I agree with the democrats that say " Dont let the door hit you on the way out." That is the beauty of our Country . One can leave behind a government that hates you. Then move to a place that appreciates hard working tax paying, church going affluent Republican gun owners. So as you wisely advised, we will not let the door hit us on the way out. Some of us will be doing the legal speed limit of 85MPH Last edited by ja308; 07-07-2019 at 6:34 PM.. |
#34
|
|||
|
|||
Quote:
|
#35
|
||||
|
||||
So get out and enjoy it while you can. You can sit in sewage or choose to wade out of it. California is sinking into a third world morass. It isn't just the ridiculous gun laws. It's the crowding, the pollution and corruption that drives people out.
California will drown itself in debt and tax its middle class out of existence because the "rich" have the lawyers and CPA's to keep them from paying taxes but the rest of the people don't. Mewsome and his pals will get their money from anyone who earns a buck. He'll get folks with sales taxes, use taxes, property taxes, gas taxes, sin taxes as well as income taxes and what they can't tax, they'll stick a fee on. Sal si puedes!
__________________
NRA Benefactor Member |
#36
|
||||
|
||||
Quote:
My CPA charged ~$300 this year to generate and electronically file my federal and Idaho taxes. That covers income from investments, work, and agricultural endeavors. I bring in the records, talk to my CPA for half an hour or so, and come back about 2 weeks later to pay...the returns are filed the same day. Any issues with the returns and the CPA takes care of business and not me...as a point of reference I've had zero issues with the IRS or state of Idaho in > 15 years. As to attorneys...mine took care of a family trust for ~ $1500. If you think it's better to do your own via the internet for free, realize you get what you pay for.
__________________
True wealth is time. Time to enjoy life. Life's journey is not to arrive safely in a well preserved body, but rather to slide in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "holy schit...what a ride"!! Heaven goes by favor. If it went by merit, you would stay out and your dog would go in. Mark Twain A man's soul can be judged by the way he treats his dog. Charles Doran |
#37
|
|||
|
|||
Quote:
They will need to fight the culture wars as we see in some democrat state's, with attacks on religion,gun rights, speech, race baiting, on and on ! We are making plans to be part time Californians,even to the point of keeping a small checking account and maybe a credit card. |
#38
|
||||
|
||||
Buying things on the internet to avoid sales taxes is getting difficult, now that many online operations have agreements with high sales tax states to collect “use taxes”
You can buy from some of the smaller Amazon partners and avoid sales tax. There are still many mom and pop shops that will sell and ship to CA and not charge the sales tax. Keep supporting them! Or buy used. My next car, used private party, I still will pay a tax, but much lower.
__________________
?The constitutional right to bear arms in public for self-defense is not a ?second-class right,? subject to an entirely different body of rules than the other Bill of Rights guarantees.? ?.. "We know of no other constitutional rights that an individual may exercise only after demonstrating to government officers some special need." - Justice Clarence Thomas |
#39
|
||||
|
||||
Heading to Texas myself. Won’t buy one single bullet here. Can’t wait until all pieces are lined up then it’s go-time
__________________
“neither magazines, nor rounds of ammunition, nor triggers, nor barrels are specifically mentioned in the Second Amendment. But without a right to keep and bear triggers, or barrels, or ammunition and the magazines that hold ammunition, the Second Amendment right would be meaningless.” Saint Benitez |
#40
|
||||
|
||||
Some members on here want people to stay and drown in CA rather than stand on dry ground Free America and fight to keep it from being taking down in the wake.
There has to be a point in which you concede that you lost the war in CA. 1 step forward, 1000 steps back is not winning. If I didn’t leave CA I would be homeless and heading to prison. Frustration would have gotten the better of me because at $26 an hour.... it’s not enough money left to go around for a rainy day. Everything goes into rent, utilities and basic food. Forget Cost of living, cost of surviving is just to high in California. In AZ..... I can actually live, not just survive. My health has improved. I’m not all stressed out, my weight is going down. I’m not getting sick all the time nor am I struggling with depression. I’m managing my PTSD extremely well here. |
Thread Tools | |
Display Modes | |
|
|