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Old 06-23-2020, 1:15 PM
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Scope, rifle newbie question. Currently have a .243 in jail and looking to buy a scope for it. Hoping to spend under $200 but can probably stretch to $250-300. Pretty much target shooting out to around 500 yards. Debating on a 3-9 or 4-12. We go to places that don't have distance markings so will need to range in scope. Need input on which magnification I should go with and make/model

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Check out primary arms. There 4-14 scopes are good to go. I have used them out to 1000 yards.
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what are you going to use it for? The PA 4-14 is nice, but at 24oz, is a bit heavy for a carry around hunting rifle. If that's what you want to do, you can't go wrong with a 3-9 Leupold xv freedom imho
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Scope, rifle newbie question. Currently have a .243 in jail and looking to buy a scope for it. Hoping to spend under $200 but can probably stretch to $250-300.

With MAGNIFIED glass, expect to pay at LEAST as much for GOOD glass, as you do for the rifle.

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careful not to waste money on junk.

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what are you going to use it for? The PA 4-14 is nice, but at 24oz, is a bit heavy for a carry around hunting rifle. If that's what you want to do, you can't go wrong with a 3-9 Leupold xv freedom imho
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I second the Leupold freedom recommendation.
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I'll second Leupold.

Don't forget to factor in the cost for mounts and rings. Don't cheap out here, either. Leupold's website has a ring and mount finder page that will be very helpful. Steel rings are the way to go.

Which .243 did you get?

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I'll second Leupold.

Don't forget to factor in the cost for mounts and rings. Don't cheap out here, either. Leupold's website has a ring and mount finder page that will be very helpful. Steel rings are the way to go.

Which .243 did you get?

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To shoot at 500 yards my 61 year old eyes need more scope than what $300.00 will buy.
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Scope, rifle newbie question. Currently have a .243 in jail and looking to buy a scope for it. Hoping to spend under $200 but can probably stretch to $250-300. Pretty much target shooting out to around 500 yards. Debating on a 3-9 or 4-12. We go to places that don't have distance markings so will need to range in scope. Need input on which magnification I should go with and make/model

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Range in scope? As in you plan to mil the target vs using a laser?
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Range in scope? As in you plan to mil the target vs using a laser?
Yup. Figuring out distance without a laser


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Yup. Figuring out distance without a laser
Then, for under $300, you'll want either the SWFA "Super Sniper" fixed 10x, or the Primary Arms 4-14x. Both have mil reticles. The Primary Arms is FFP, which, in my opinion, is the only way to go with a mil reticle.

Regardless of what some people will tell you, the fixed 10x power scope is plenty good enough for 1000 yard shooting, and is a great way to learn the discipline of ranging. The fixed power is less distracting when you're starting out, and will force you to really pay attention to the nuances of of the reticle markings, since you can't "cheat" and zoom in for a closer look.

I've got a SWFA 10x, and can vouch for the quality. I don't have a Primary Arms, but everyone seems to love it.

I've seen a Bushnell FFP mil reticle scope on clearance at Midway for around $300. I've got a 1-4x Bushnell FFP scope on another rifle, and it is decent quality.

In my opinion, combining a mil or bdc reticle with a SFP is silly, as the mils are only accurate at one specific magnification setting, and the bdc represent wildly different yardages at each magnification. You can work around that, but it is distracting and annoying, and I wouldn't recommend it for someone that is starting out.
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https://www.natchezss.com/nikon-mona...1-4-matte.html
https://www.samplelist.com/burris-3-....html?___SID=U

are a couple options
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Yup. Figuring out distance without a laser
For under $300, look at the Leupold VX-Freedom AR 3-9x40. This model typically goes for $249 at most online stores (e. g. MidwayUSA). It has the Tactical Milling Reticle (TMR) and is quite good for ranging at distance. The adjustments are also in mils, so everything's metric, i. e. base 10, so the mathematical calculations get simpler.

https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1022272845
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Thanks for all the input. I ended up getting a free scope from my cousin. So I'll have to make do. Crossfire 2, 4-12

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