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Old 02-14-2019, 8:27 PM
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Everybody loves a good find story .... here's my recent score.

I see an ad in local small local paper - old military guns for sale. I can't call fast
enough. So I am first call and he says come over 1/2 hour ( tells me that one is a bolt action and other is automatic ).

I race over and he shows me a Winchester 1917 and an M1 Garand. I have Garands but the 1917 really interests me. He says $300 for the Winchester i'm all over it. I asked him if he had anything else and he pulls out 480 rnds boxed LC M1 ammo, a wooden ww1 ammo can, and an NOS 1942 dated M1 carbine case. The wooden ammo can had 2 ww2 deactivated pineapples and cleaning kits and other small parts. He wanted $200 for the other items. Very good pricing.

I did have to do the transfer at LGS so add $35 to cost.

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Old 02-14-2019, 8:29 PM
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Awesome Find
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Old 02-14-2019, 8:33 PM
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Did you happen to find a time machine as well? Those are early to mid-2000 prices!
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Old 02-14-2019, 8:33 PM
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That is a steal. The M1917 gets overshadowed by the 1903 but I don’t know why. I love my Eddystone.
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Old 02-14-2019, 9:22 PM
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Yes, those were really great prices ... more important was that it was a great
find.
This kind of stuff is out there, but locating it is a bear.
I haven't taken the M1917 out for a shoot yet, with the wet weather and all, but
I will soon.
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Old 02-14-2019, 9:24 PM
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Great score!
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Great find although at those prices I would have probably also picked up the Garand if it was also priced similarly. One can never have too many Garands.
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Old 02-15-2019, 6:21 AM
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That was the odd part of the whole thing ... he wanted $1100 for a service grade Springfield.

I sort of politely told him he was a little high on his price, but didn't want to dis him as you can probably understand.

If I didn't already have a few nice examples, I might have done it.

I'm sure someone came in behind me and took it off his hands.
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Old 02-15-2019, 6:58 AM
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That was the odd part of the whole thing ... he wanted $1100 for a service grade Springfield.

I sort of politely told him he was a little high on his price, but didn't want to dis him as you can probably understand.

If I didn't already have a few nice examples, I might have done it.

I'm sure someone came in behind me and took it off his hands.
Makes sense on passing then as nice ones can be found for less. Maybe he had the 1917 for a while and just recently bought the M1. At any rate great score on the 1917.
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That was the odd part of the whole thing ... he wanted $1100 for a service grade Springfield.

I sort of politely told him he was a little high on his price, but didn't want to dis him as you can probably understand.

If I didn't already have a few nice examples, I might have done it.

I'm sure someone came in behind me and took it off his hands.
I love my Garands, but they are sort of a dime a dozen. Probably because so many people buy them from the CMP and immediately try to flip them. 1917 rifles are far less seen on the market.
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That is an absolute steal at the price. I bought an Eddystone 1917 with all Eddystone parts for around $1000 after everything. The condition on yours looks excellent. I hope to see more pictures.
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Great looking Winchester M1917. I think the barrel is dated 1918 from what I can see in your picture.. That could be original to the rifle as the rifle's serial number dates it's manufacture to April 1918. Any story from the previous owner where he got the rifle?
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So cool! The best find! Thank you for sharing.
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Old 02-15-2019, 11:18 AM
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The guy was in his 80's and told me he purchased both rifles from the DMC ? or the predecessor to CMP.

He shot competition matches until his eyesight started to go.
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Very sweet deal. PAX
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The guy was in his 80's and told me he purchased both rifles from the DMC ? or the predecessor to CMP.
That's the DCM (Director of Civilian Marksmanship), the predecessor organization of the current CMP. That's great that you know something about the rifle's source. Without sounding offensive...I may have inquired if he happen to have the sales receipt or other paper work when he obtained the rifle...explaining that DCM sourced arms with the paperwork and in great condition like his are prized ...great find for you anyway!

On second thought...for the price you got it for...maybe no questions asked and comments is better...just close the deal!

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Awesome deal you got there! Congrats on your beautiful 1917.
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That's the DCM (Director of Civilian Marksmanship), the predecessor organization of the current CMP. That's great that you know something about the rifle's source. Without sounding offensive...I may have inquired if he happen to have the sales receipt or other paper work when he obtained the rifle...explaining that DCM sourced arms with the paperwork and in great condition like his are prized ...great find for you anyway!

On second thought...for the price you got it for...maybe no questions asked and comments is better...just close the deal!
Now that you closed the deal, it wouldn't hurt to ask...
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I do like those M1917's - the P14 (English version) was a popular Bisley rifle when I was a cadet in the UK - great system and as mentioned often over looked.

You found a great deal.
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Congrats! Sounds like the Enfield found a good home... I always felt that the Enfield was a nicer shooting rifle than the Springfield... cheers!
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Nice score!
I don't think I've seen a complete 1917 in 10 years for sale. ( Not local that is)

I got a sporterized 1917 or something like a sporterized. Missing a bunch of parts. But had main stock, bolt, barrel, trigger. After hours of cleaning paint, varnish, oil, grease, dust, then finding all the parts, it's now a complete m1917.

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You surrendered the pineapples since they are banned in ca right.
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Great! More stuff for me to be jealous of!



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You surrendered the pineapples since they are banned in ca right.
Actually the pineapples and all my evil black guns are sitting pretty in our 2nd home in Reno, soon to be our permanent residence
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Nice score. Good thing that the seller didn't do his research as you did quite well. What was he asking for the old DCM Garand?
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What a steal!
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Nice score!
I don't think I've seen a complete 1917 in 10 years for sale. ( Not local that is)

I got a sporterized 1917 or something like a sporterized. Missing a bunch of parts. But had main stock, bolt, barrel, trigger. After hours of cleaning paint, varnish, oil, grease, dust, then finding all the parts, it's now a complete m1917.

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I was in a scramble to obtain an M1917 rifle right before my 03/COE expired last year and found a nice one here on Calguns for a very fair price. They are relatively scarce on the secondary market though, at least the places I look.
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Nice score!
I don't think I've seen a complete 1917 in 10 years for sale. ( Not local that is)

I got a sporterized 1917 or something like a sporterized. Missing a bunch of parts. But had main stock, bolt, barrel, trigger. After hours of cleaning paint, varnish, oil, grease, dust, then finding all the parts, it's now a complete m1917.

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I've got a couple of sported 1917's...uncut metal but sported stocks. The problem with trying to restore them is finding a replacement stock. Much harder to find than an '03/03A3 replacement stock.
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I picked up this guy about 4 years ago for $300, an Eddystone. The main reason I got it, was the barrel hadn't been cut, and I had some furniture acquired in an estate buy. Still haven't returned it to it's original configuration yet. PAX

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How does it feel to take advantage of an old man?
The man got what he was asking. Better than a 100 dollar wal mart card.
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