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So we need a majority voting yes on recalling Newsom, then Elder would just need to receive the majority of the votes to be the replacement.
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There is an opinion piece floating around stating that the recall process is unconstitutional.... they really, really are worried he is going to lose and are now grasping at every straw.
Funny, no one said it was unconstitutional when Grey Davis lost, and no one has ever talked about changing the recall rules until now. Equally funny is that they put themselves in this position by voting to change the timeline to (at the time) benefit 'ole Newsom, and the timeline they wanted now puts the recall square in the middle of covid. How utterly divine would it be if Newsom is ousted and then Feinstein kicked the bucket?! |
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Alameda County sent a flyer a couple weeks back saying that mailing begins 08/16.
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I'm thinking Newsom will lose but file enough suits to stall his removal...forever. Do a False Flag election fraud if you see the Recall is winning. |
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This is why, Poly Sci wise, best hope to get non-anti-gun Governor in CA is to crawdad into it with a Recall once a Dem wins general. In solidly Left Wing CA, its going to be a lot easier to say "Fire that guy" THEN pick someone sorta opposite than to get more votes than the establishment Left Wing guy with the Machine behind him in the General. Sorta like I might not be able to win the Indy 500, but I could make sure the favorite to win loses by crashing him, so that someone else wins. |
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Yeah, it's the rules of the system we have, I get it.
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On Sept. 14, voters will be asked to cast a ballot on two questions:
1. Should Gov. Gavin Newsom be recalled and removed from office? 2. If so, which of the candidates on the ballot should replace him? The first question is decided by a majority vote. If a majority favors recalling Mr. Newsom, he is removed from office. But the latter question is decided by a plurality, and whichever candidate gets the most votes, even if it is much less than a majority, becomes the next governor. Critically, Mr. Newsom is not on the ballot for the second question.
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Got ours yesterday in Alameda Co.
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"People say nothing is impossible, but I do nothing every day.” "Nothing is foolproof to a sufficiently-talented fool." "The things that come to those who wait may well be the things left by those who got there first." |
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The lie? I sure didn't vote for him, if that's what you're getting at.
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Making guns illegal is as stupid as making drugs or prostitution illegal. |
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This is only one instance of bait and switch. Do you think that a big deal, bait and switch is a good reason to terminate his term? Many of us were horrified when he let cold bloodied scum , live out their lives, when victims were tortured and murdered. |
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I signed this yesterday. Hopefully, the fact that I did it digitally doesn't mean it gets thrown out.
I had to rewrite this a couple of times because I'm getting all of the leftist nonsense with Afghanistan, California, etc all conflated. I hope we get a deep seated Conservative in office who would have no problem reminding the state of what the left has done and maybe use this to help get rid of the supermajority this state has suffered under for so long. Leftists should probably should not be so smug after the pasting we just got in Afghanistan at the hands of our own leadership. This is a world level disaster for us. We look like buffoons to the world right now, and the damage falls SQUARELY on Biden and how he handled it. I hope California voters see that and put Newsome and his Assembly all in the same boat out of here. Sorry for ther rant. I'm just a bit upset at the whole Afghanistan thing.
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Not very democratic? STOP SMOKING CRACK! - The CBS News/YouGov poll, conducted among 1,856 Californians between Aug. 6 and Aug. 12, shows that 54% of registered voters oppose the recall while 46% support it, but the race tightens to 52% opposition and 48% support among likely recall election voters. - This new CBS poll found that 86% of Trump 2020 voters said they "definitely will vote" in the recall election, compared with just 75% of Biden 2020 voters who said the same. Only 16% of Trump voters are following the recall election "not very closely" or "not closely at all," and that figure rises to 32% among Biden voters. - The poll also found that Newsom has positive approval on COVID-19, wildfires and the drought, but negative approval ratings on crime and homelessness. On homelessness specifically, Newsom has just a 40% approval rating.
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The very fact he has not done anything to facilitate water storage and now has money to buy off voters should be another reason why this self centered individual should b recalled.
he just is not a capable leader. |
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NEWEST NEWSCUM ATTACK OF ELDER
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...id=hplocalnews
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Larry Elder probably last stop for some sort of American freedom
Home made Larry Elder sign in yard fir now will do. Made a lil pitch in that hat.
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Wife and I received our ballots. Can't wait to get rid of this liar.
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Good work and I agree, the yard sign is a great idea. Its also important that each of us use word of mouth to help keep momentum for Larry, as you are also doing.
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It's super-democratic!
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California's method is about as close as you can get to pure democracy. |
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The more modern Parliamentary model, which makes the monarchy more of a symbol than something real, either by law or in practice, is more democratic than the presidential model, which is also why it sucks even more. More democratic is not a good thing, that's for sure. But I agree that recalls and the like are democratic. It's literally a direct, majority-rules election on a matter. IMO, California would not have devolved so quickly if it had had proper anti-democratic elements to its form of government. It did once have a geographically-apportioned Senate (the result of an initiative amendment, ironically), which even today would prevent one-party Democratic rule much of the time, and make it tenuous when held the rest of the time. We can thank SCOTUS for its unconstitutional series of rulings which did away with that (and which is what Erwin Chemerinsky is citing as a basis for saying the recall is unconstitutional). Back when that amendment was passed, it succeeded with massive support which was also bipartisan; the urban areas outside of LA did not want to be dominated by LA, and the rural and exurban areas did not want to be dominated by the cities; only LA voted strongly against it. |
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Everyone needs to help Larry Elder win. Newsom has a $50 million war chest. I'm retired but gave Larry a small gift this morning.
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LA Times had a quasi anti-Newsom piece related to his fundraising yesterday. The gist was that the appearances are that all sorts of entities are hedging that Newsom will win, and are using the lack of limits as an opportunity for political bribery for the future, or reward for past actions, via huge donations.
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Here's a thought.
In todays newspaper was a reminder that NewScum is sending everyone in Ca that makes less then $75K a "vote buying" relief check of $600. If everyone fed up with Liberal Destruction of Ca. Sends Larry a check for $600. That is KARMA BABY. And costs the sender nothing. Turn the tables on VOTE BUYING. By using the Money Rope that Gavin bought with OUR MONEY. To HANG HIM WITH. |
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I agree, a ballot to indicate no confidence in the governor is a fine thing, and that's what he's already facing in 2022. What's undemocratic is to have a slim percentage of voters decide, through a plurality, the next governor. Elder might win it with only 10% of votes in the recall, if no other candidate gets more votes. That's crazy - but it's our process. If Newsom is recalled, we should simply get the Lt. Governor stepping up, and have a separate statewide election for a replacement Lt. Governor, who would need to get a majority vote.
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Making guns illegal is as stupid as making drugs or prostitution illegal. |
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Under the circumstances, recalling Newsom and putting the current Lt. Gov. in office would defeat at least some of the purpose of recalling Newsom. |
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Latest poll shows 57% for "No" and 42% for "Yes", with 1% undecided (MOE 3.7%). The amount of Democrats who shifted from not being likely voters to being likely voters or who have already voted has gone up considerably since the last polls, according to this one, accounting for the shift in favor of "No".
A lot of Democrats who are voting or have voted seem to be following the suggestion to not vote at all in the replacement election, though. The number refraining from it is still substantial. Also, the Democrat vote for a replacement seems to be fragmenting, according to the poll. Paffrath has gone down and the other Democrats have gone up in the polls. Despite some Democratic institutions (like the LA Times) supporting Faulconer for those who have decided to vote for a replacement, he doesn't seem to be drawing many votes from them (although he's still drawing more than any other Republican). Elder is still the leading replacement candidate, although if Newsom is not recalled, that is obviously moot. He's at 35% of those participating in the replacement election. Paffrath is the closest behind him at 8%. Democrat McGowan is next at 6%. Kiley is the next highest Republican, at 5%. Next are Faulconer, Democrat Ross, and Democrat Watts, each with 4%. Cox and Democrat Baade come in next with 3% each (Cox has fallen far, having once been one of the leading candidates in the double digits). Jenner and Ose each get 1%. The remaining candidates combined get 9%. 19% remain undecided. Elder, to be secure in the replacement election, would either need to have the Republican vote consolidate more in his favor, or do well among the undecideds. If the undecideds break hard Democrat and the Democrat vote consolidates again around one person (Paffrath, most likely), he has the potential to come in second. Again, moot if Newsom is not recalled. Still, Republicans considering voting for the various other Republicans should reconsider and vote for Elder. This polling firm gets the lowest historical accuracy rating out of the polls tracking the recall election, which is not to say it gets a bad one. I'm hoping it is wrong on the recall part. It also shows that 58% of "No" respondents have already voted, while only 35% of "Yes" respondents have voted. Last edited by bigstick61; 08-30-2021 at 2:07 AM.. |
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The poal also shows that his supporters are much more engaged than his detractors. If he is to be recalled, the proponents need to step up in a big way. But trumpism is on the wane, they probably don't have it together here.
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49,000 will be counted as Biden voters, after the polls closed and then re-opened the next day. Newsome doesn't need to do anything. Its very likely he has already won. Last edited by ja308; 08-31-2021 at 8:18 PM.. |
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Another new poll just came out also showing the recall failing by substantial numbers and also showing that Democrat turnout is increasing compared to how things looked a few weeks ago. However, this one is still just within the margin of error, but it its helping to establish a trend.
Elder is still at the top for the replacement election and the poll seems to also confirm that the Democratic vote is fragmenting amongst several candidates now, as opposed to being concentrated around Paffrath earlier. Make sure to encourage others to vote! We're going to need every single one, I think. |
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A state where dems outnumber republican 2:1... Elder, being billed as "black Trump", which is not far off from the truth, bringing the dems out of their slumber.... ... and folks on here are talking about "rigged elections".... |
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https://www.mercurynews.com/2021/08/...thorities-say/
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THBailey As Will Rogers once said: "Everyone is ignorant, only in different subjects." |
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Once again, Republican politics is impervious to logic. "YES! Let's embrace someone the left can easily and somewhat accurately frame as FAR RIGHT and scare their voters to the poles. That is SURE to not backfire on us!" Anyway, probably a good thing if this fails. Elder would make a mess of things, NOT ACCOMPLISH ANYTHING (aside from a couple nice vetos probably), and just serve as an Iwo Jima flag for the dems to rally around next year in the election. But hey, at least y'all would be able to squawk about "libruhl tears" for a year, that's what's important, right? |
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Anyone who sincerely doesn't know the Democrats have a long and storied history of cheating in elections is a very special kind of ignorant. Tammany Hall? The Daley machine in Chicago? Hell, my grandmother showed up to vote in Kansas City in the 1930's and was told she already voted. That is when my grandfather started to fight against the Pendergast machine. ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Pendergast ) To say nothing of the Southern Democrats in the early 1960's. But hey, maybe the Taliban will also be different this time?
Regardless of who you might want to replace him, the first vote is yes on recall.
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THBailey As Will Rogers once said: "Everyone is ignorant, only in different subjects." Last edited by THBailey; 09-03-2021 at 7:01 PM.. |
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