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Old 12-03-2021, 11:34 AM
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Originally Posted by RickD427 View Post

We may need to wait and see what happens here.

Ms. Duncan can certainly request a stay, prior to the issuance of the mandate, but there is no assurance that the Ninth Circuit will grant the stay. Given their handling of the en banc decision, I would have to believe them dis-inclined to grant such a stay.
True - thus "almost certainly". I agree with that assessment of the 9th; I wonder if they would really add that insult to their injury, but I cannot rule it out. 'Petty' would not begin to cover that denial.
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Old 12-03-2021, 11:59 AM
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True - thus "almost certainly". I agree with that assessment of the 9th; I wonder if they would really add that insult to their injury, but I cannot rule it out. 'Petty' would not begin to cover that denial.
I think that's what happened in New Jersey. They had the case to prevent the magazines from becoming illegal , but the courts denied it and they became illegal per the new law.
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Old 12-03-2021, 4:30 PM
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It comes down to peace of mind. If you live in California, you either accept the laws as they are or decide that non-compliance is your position. All the talk about when you bought the magazine doesn't make one bit of difference when for whatever reason your life becomes a mess, financially and mentally because you chose poorly.

There are people with either the connections, support or money who are willing to be test cases, are you one of them? If you are hoping for some organization to rush to your side and take up your cause, good luck with that because it's not likely to happen.

While it's unlikely that the magazine you have becomes the focus of anyone its convenient addition to the primary focus that caused your new problems.

You get stopped and for some reason there is a search. Why would you get searched if you have a CCW? Among other things, if the gun wasn't the focus of the search but something else led to it, checking your ammo to insure it's legal (and no AP for example) in a place like SF or elsewhere can happen. Someone will notice its not a 10 rounder.

Does that now become the bigger deal? Who knows but is that the hill you've now decided on fighting for - by yourself?

Oh, you have one of those nighty insurance plans for CCW holders? Have you asked them in writing and received an answer - in writing - that they will step up? You might want to start that email comms right now if you intend to carry standard cap mags.

The way it really works is that plenty of people talk until it's you and whomever mano e mano and then its reality. Your insurance decides you made a decision to use it, no 2nd/A organization happens to be waiting by the phone and its you, your lawyer and your bank account.

There are going to be plenty of people right on calguns telling you it's okay. Did that come with a 24x7x365 phone # you can call if things don't go ok?

Think long and hard about all this because if you carry them to make some statement just be sure you have your ducks lined up to pay the piper because your lawyer gets paid one way or the other.

Its all about choices and just make sure it's not about bravado, BMOC, ego or some hoorah stand up for the cause .

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