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Remington 870 Wingmaster Question
Hello. I need some help identifying the year that my Rem. 870 Wingmaster was produced. The trigger guard is metal and certain parts of the shotgun have faded into a nice purple colored patina. The gun store said that it sat, unfired in a closet for the last few decades and they thought it might be a 70’s era shotgun.
Serial number: V183***V Here are a few pics:
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Looks to be in nice condition. Wonder if a police special or if its been pieced together? Most Wingmasters Ive seen were an upgrade over the field grade with highly polished bluing and fancier wood.
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Looks like a 870 Police from early 1980's, they were Wingmasters but without the fancy wood and had an 18" improved cylinder barrel.
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I’m taking it out this upcoming weekend. Just got a 4x4 so I’ll be hitting the desert dirt and finding me a nice canyon on BLM to shoot.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 03, 2013 6:43 pm
Cary wrote: How do I find out the date of manufacture for my 870 Express using the serial number? Is there a key for deciphering the serial number to figure this out? Thanks for your help. Cary Call Remington and give them the serial number, they will tell you when it was born, however keep in mind they due make errors. Back up what they tell you with this information; DECODING REMINGTON SERIAL NUMBERS Model 870 LETTER PREFIX 1950 TO APPROX 1968: NO SERIAL NUMBER PREFIX 1968 TO PRESENT: LETTERS USED (IN SEQUENCE) S-68, T-74, V-78, W-84, X-90, A-91, B-94, C-97, D-01, AB-05 Model 870 LETTER SUFFIX (DESIGNATES GAUGE) V 12 GA. (2 3/4”) M 12 GA. MAGNUM (3”) A 12 GA. “SUPER” MAGNUM (3 ½”) W 16 GA. ( 2 ¾” ) X 20 GA. “HEAVY FRAME” (DISCONTINUED) N 20 GA. “HEAVY FRAME MAGNUM” (DISCONTINUED) K 20 GA. “LIGHT WEIGHT” (“LW”) (ALSO INCLUDES M/1100 “LT”) U 20 GA. LW MAGNUM (ALSO INCLUDES M/1100 “LT”) J 28 GA. H .410 BORE (2 ½” OR 3”) Model 1100 LETTER PREFIX 1963 TO APPROX. 1968: NO SERIAL NUMBER PREFIX 1968 TO PRESENT: LETTERS USED (IN SEQUENCE) L-68, M-74, N-78, P-85, R-90 Model 1100 LETTER SUFFIX SAME STRUCTURE AS THE Model 870 Model 1187 LETTER PREFIX 1987 TO PRESENT: “PC” 12 GA., 1999 “TL“ 20 GA., 2000 “SM” SUPER MAG. LETTER SUFFIX NO LETTER SUFFIX ON THIS MODEL Then look on the left side of the barrel near the receiver and look for a two letter date code stamp and follow this chart with the first letter being the month and the second being the year the barrel was made; Month B - Jan L - Feb A - Mar C - Apr K - May P - Jun O - Jul W - Aug D - Sep E - Oct R - Nov X - Dec Year M - 1921 N - 1922 P - 1923 R - 1924 S - 1925 T - 1926 U - 1927 W - 1928 X - 1929 Y - 1930 Z - 1931 A - 1932 B - 1933 C - 1934 D - 1935 E - 1936 F - 1937 G - 1938 H - 1939 J - 1940 K - 1941 L - 1942 MM - 1943 NN - 1944 PP - 1945 RR - 1946 SS - 1947 TT - 1948 UU - 1949 WW - 1950 XX - 1951 YY - 1952 ZZ - 1953 A - 1954 B - 1955 C - 1956 D - 1957 E - 1958 F - 1959 G - 1960 H - 1961 J - 1962 K - 1963 L - 1964 M - 1965 N - 1966 P - 1967 R - 1968 S - 1969 T - 1970 U - 1971 W - 1972 X - 1973 Y - 1974 Z - 1975 I - 1976 O - 1977 Q - 1978 V - 1979 A - 1980 B - 1981 C - 1982 D - 1983 E - 1984 F - 1985 G - 1986 H - 1987 I - 1988 J - 1989 K - 1990 L - 1991 M - 1992 N - 1993 O - 1994 P - 1995 Q - 1996 R - 1997 S - 1998 T - 1999 (*) U - 2000 (*) V - 2001 (*) W - 2002 X - 2003 Y - 2004 Z - 2005 A - 2006 B - 2007 C - 2008 D - 2009 E - 2010 F - 2011 G - 2012 H - 2013 |
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"This one actually says “Wingmaster” on the left side of the receiver. Did the Police models say “Police” on them?"
No, just Wingmaster and a nice blue finish.
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Pictures of the barrel markings have been taken. Am I mistaken of do the marking indicate that the shotgun was produced in January 1978?
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I must be missing something. How did you conclude that the barrel was made in 2001?
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If you look at the tables provided the letter code precedes the month or year.
The barrel code of AV means (per the table) the barrel was made in March, 1979 A - Mar V appears in the table twice. V - 1979 V - 2001 (*) It looks like the receiver was made in 1978. DECODING REMINGTON SERIAL NUMBERS Model 870 LETTER PREFIX V-78 At least, that's how I interpret it. |
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I just spoke with a rep from Remington who told me the serial number dates the firearm to March 1979. He even ID’d the shotgun as an 870 Wingmaster Police w/ 18.5” improved cylinder barrel.
It appears that this shotgun is very much all original.
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My biggest fear is that one day I will die and my wife will sell my guns for what I told her I paid for them. WTB: https://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/...6#post27313406 Last edited by AO3; 09-12-2019 at 12:43 PM.. |
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What numbers did you provide remington?
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Had to edit my previous post because Remington called back and gave me accurate information. Apparently the first rep I spoke with made a mistake.
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