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Old 05-20-2021, 4:21 PM
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LEOs are civilians, period. This is fact. They aren’t US military. Police in desert or jungle camo is simply laughable as a civilian police unit. Unless they are US military with a DOD CAC card they are civilians. End of story.

And if you civilian police folks don’t like it, tough. Go serve in the US armed services for 20-40 years like a lot of us have and then come back and voice your opinion on the matter.
Absolutely true.
The response in post #79 is an emotional response. It has nothing to do with defined, factual definitions.
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Old 05-20-2021, 4:52 PM
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Good. Cops are not “special citizens” and deserve no more than Joe Q. public, period, full stop.
Public sector unions are STUPID and should be outlawed. Many cops in this thread are prime examples of LEO’s superiority complex. Bodycams have shown how many bullies with badges there truly are and it’s staggering.




So how many bad cops have you turned in and gotten convicted? Or do you turn a blind eye for your brothers in blue?

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Selling personal property for a profit is not a crime. Buying with the sole intent of selling for profit is a grey area of the law if you stay within the yearly personal sales limit. Although I don’t support selling off-market for profit, I will never support you or anyone else telling another man how he can sell his personal property.

Bodycams overwhelming have proven that the majority of cops are good, honest, hard working professionals. Our departments have never and will never show the thousands of positive encounters we have everyday on bodycam.

I love how quickly supposed “conservatives” and “pro2A” people will abandon the principles of freedom and constitutional rights when it serves their own warped sense of justice.

The solution to the roster is not further restricting rights. The solution to any problem is not more legislation or more government. If you can get enough people to join to together, form a union. Don’t rely on the government to tell you that unions are bad and should be outlawed. That just replaces unions with more powerful politicians. If you strip the Officer exemption, our unions won’t be able to do anything. There will only be one type of person with off roster guns and that’s criminals.
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Old 05-20-2021, 5:28 PM
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Good. Cops are not “special citizens” and deserve no more than Joe Q. public, period, full stop.
Public sector unions are STUPID and should be outlawed. Many cops in this thread are prime examples of LEO’s superiority complex. Bodycams have shown how many bullies with badges there truly are and it’s staggering.




So how many bad cops have you turned in and gotten convicted? Or do you turn a blind eye for your brothers in blue?

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Stop watching the evening news, it's clearly warping your sense of reality.

Corrupt cops are a rarity and body cameras and higher than ever public scrutiny has clearly shown that.

Millions of contacts every single day, throughout all hours, dealing with the most evil, psychotic, and self serving people society has to offer. Yet most of these result in overwhelmingly peaceful and just resolutions.
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Old 05-20-2021, 5:55 PM
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This quote from Bigdawg90 sums up a lot, "If you strip the Officer exemption, our unions won’t be able to do anything. There will only be one type of person with off roster guns and that’s criminals."
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Old 05-20-2021, 6:03 PM
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Might be strategic to let them remove the LEO roster exemption, if only to get the police unions to fight the roster itself.

Worst case is they carve out an exemption, that they already have, and us normies are back to where we are currently.
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Old 05-21-2021, 7:30 AM
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You are off your rocker! I had multiple partners who were military snipers, gunnies and so on and were as dumb as a box of rocks. Most I worked with had no interpersonal skills at all! Woopie do, you can clean an AR in record time,so what. Just because you served in the military does not make you better. Its a little different in todays military with little one to one interaction. Before you talk **** about LEO maybe you should try walking in our shoes today.
So does service in LE make you "better"?
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Old 05-21-2021, 7:34 AM
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Selling personal property for a profit is not a crime. Buying with the sole intent of selling for profit is a grey area of the law if you stay within the yearly personal sales limit. Although I don’t support selling off-market for profit, I will never support you or anyone else telling another man how he can sell his personal property.
Buying with the sole intent of reselling to someone else is actually a crime. Read all the questions on a 4473 form carefully.
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So how many bad cops have you turned in and gotten convicted? Or do you turn a blind eye for your brothers in blue?

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Yeah......I don't go around asking people I work with if they flip guns here.......if non LEO stopped paying the ridiculous prices and CGN allowed people to call out obvious flippers in the marketplace the problem would disappear. LEO's will flip guns here because people will pay stupidly high prices and CGN enables them to continue flipping.

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Selling personal property for a profit is not a crime. Buying with the sole intent of selling for profit is a grey area of the law if you stay within the yearly personal sales limit. Although I don’t support selling off-market for profit, I will never support you or anyone else telling another man how he can sell his personal property.
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Buying guns with the intention of listening them online for sale is not a grey area. It's a crime. If the entire reason for the purchase of the firearm was to sell it for profit you need a license.
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Old 05-21-2021, 8:01 AM
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Yeah......I don't go around asking people I work with if they flip guns here.......if non LEO stopped paying the ridiculous prices and CGN allowed people to call out obvious flippers in the marketplace the problem would disappear. LEO's will flip guns here because people will pay stupidly high prices and CGN enables them to continue flipping.
The problem will not disappear as there is many avenues LE uses to flip off rosters.

I personally am amazed that greed still overrides common sense and self preservation as some LE0's have already had high profile cases where they threw away their careers and honor for a few bucks. The Glendale PD officer and the Gardena officers the "38Superman" are but two example.
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Old 05-21-2021, 2:40 PM
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HOW ABOUT

Either getting this thread back on track. Or locking it as useless.

THE ISSUE AT HAND in this idiotic legislation. Is to REMOVE all semi auto pistols from ALL LE USE!



REALLY, who in their right mind wants this?
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This thread was “on track” at some point? I must have missed that part.
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You don't have to be a LEO to get an off roster handgun legally.
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Old 05-21-2021, 3:12 PM
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This thread was “on track” at some point? I must have missed that part.
IMHO, yes. It started that way. For a short while. Then went into the weeds with complaints about OTHER crap legislation, that got passed 20 yrs ago.

Again IMHO .................. ALL citizens should be against leaving LE to defend themselves, and the general public with nothing but revolvers. And that is what this crap does.
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