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I think "Lord Of The Flies" is a great read & insight into how quickly humans will turn savage.
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Warday, by Whitley Strieber and James Kunetka.
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The Island series by Michael Stark
The Zombie Fallout series by Mark Tufo
Vampire Earth series by E.E. Knight (kind of post-, post-SHTF)
The Maze Runner series by James Dashner (similar to Hunger Games)
Redaction by Linda Andrews

+1 on The Remaining series.
You've got to be kidding about The Redaction being a good book to read. I found that to be the most poorly-written and annoying book I've ever read. Besides the author going into excruciating detail about everything, the characters cannot seem to make it from point A to point B without tripping and falling a half dozen times along the way.
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World War Z obviously...

Also, not quite SHTF but kind of end of days... Atlas Shrugged
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You've got to be kidding about The Redaction being a good book to read. I found that to be the most poorly-written and annoying book I've ever read. Besides the author going into excruciating detail about everything, the characters cannot seem to make it from point A to point B without tripping and falling a half dozen times along the way.
Honestly, I read so much (about 250 books last year) that 9 times out of 10 I can't remember what the book was about. I just looked at my book list for the ones that were cataloged as post-apocalyptic and listed some of them. I did comment on two that were still in recent memory, but that's it. I read a lot of stuff from Smashwords and the editing on most of those books is horrific. I've gotten to the point where I don't care anymore unless it's so bad I can't take it anymore. Case in point: Circle William. I can't tell you anything about that book except that it had to do with the Navy and it was so bad I couldn't finish it. Oh, and it is the only book I've ever hunted down the author to tell them how bad his book was (no Facebook page or fan website).

EDIT: You've piqued my interest though, so I'm going to go back and look at it again.

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Honestly, I read so much (about 250 books last year) that 9 times out of 10 I can't remember what the book was about. I just looked at my book list for the ones that were cataloged as post-apocalyptic and listed some of them. I did comment on two that were still in recent memory, but that's it. I read a lot of stuff from Smashwords and the editing on most of those books is horrific. I've gotten to the point where I don't care anymore unless it's so bad I can't take it anymore. Case in point: Circle William. I can't tell you anything about that book except that it had to do with the Navy and it was so bad I couldn't finish it. Oh, and it is the only book I've ever hunted down the author to tell them how bad his book was (no Facebook page or fan website).

EDIT: You've piqued my interest though, so I'm going to go back and look at it again.
Actually, the only reason I remembered was because I didn't like it at all.
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I would recommend "Unintended Consequences" by John Ross.

http://www.amazon.com/Unintended-Con.../dp/1888118040

It will give you a good SHTF fiction read and as a bonus you get a detailed accountings of all the critical gun/government confrontations in US history (Miami shootout, Waco, Ruby Ridge, etc.). A very good read!

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A State of Disobedience by Kratman

Wrong politician gets elected and ends up taking away many of our constitutional rights and ends up in a mini civil war here in the states. Covers obama care, 2A and liberalism / socialism run rampant

http://www.amazon.com/State-Disobedi.../dp/0743499204

PM me and ill email a copy to your kindle address. if you like it, buy some of his other books.

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Warday, by Whitley Strieber and James Kunetka.
x2, great read.

Also, "THE LAST SHIP" by William Brinkley. Maybe the most beautifully written book I've ever read.
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Just finished "Apocalypse Z". Really fast paced SHTF zombie book that takes place in Spain. Pretty good pleasure read. The end leaves open the possibility for sequels. This book could parallel the amc tv series "The Walking Dead".

http://www.amazon.com/Apocalypse-Z-B...s=apocalypse+z
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I see its been mentioned a couple times, but +1 for Earth Abides. This is one of the best books I've ever read.
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Just finished "Apocalypse Z". Really fast paced SHTF zombie book that takes place in Spain. Pretty good pleasure read. The end leaves open the possibility for sequels. This book could parallel the amc tv series "The Walking Dead".

http://www.amazon.com/Apocalypse-Z-B...s=apocalypse+z
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i finished Hitler Land a few weeks ago....lots of events and attitudes so errily similar to today
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Try the Ashes series by wwjohnstone. hared to find but good reading
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A lot of good recommendations in this thread. I enjoy the SHTF genre but frankly the vast majority of it is unmitigated crap.

I just finished Lights Out by David Crawford. I enjoyed it for it depiction of a slow incremental collapse and the sense of working as a community. While I frequently wanted to choke the main protagonist and his *****y wife...I liked the idea he worked with what he had and that mean't dealing with the idiots he was surrounded by.
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Been a while since I checked in on this thread. With everything that has been going on lately on a national and global scale it almost feels like the beginning of a SHTF novel. I haven't been reading much, mostly just keeping up with current events. I did just download a sample of Earth Abides from Amazon, I will check that out this afternoon.
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Just read "One Second After" the other day. Started in the early afternoon and finished by midnight.

Excellent read, and definitely thought provoking.

Imagine the breakdown of all modern electronics nationwide. No more food distribution, no more medical machinery, no more modern medicine. If you have a life threatening chronic disease like Type 1 Diabetes, once the meds that are keeping you alive are gone, you die.

No water treatment, no waste management, disease spreads rapidly wiping out large portions of the population.

Prisons are now all empty. Convicts who don't care who they have to kill to get a meal are roaming in bands.

No more anti-psychotic drugs. Suicides increase. People who were sane only because of modern chemistry are now raving psychotics.

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i have not read it , But I heard (WORLD WAR Z) was a good one.
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Also the Hunger Games trilogy is pretty good as already mentioned
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Best one I have read is the " dies the fire" as series by S.M. Sterling.
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Just finished 'Enemies Foreign and Domestic' and picked up sequel 'Domestic Enemies'. By Mathew Bracken.

So far I'm enjoying the sequel better than the first. But either way, it's a great read.
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I just finished "The 14th Reinstated " by Bryce M. Towsley.

He is a fellow gun nut and his knowalge of firearms really showed in this book leading to most of it being pretty believable. This book definitely leans to the right.
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Lucifer's Hammer is good, but it is quite dated (70's era) and does drag for the first half of the book until the Hammer finally falls.

A main theme I shy away from are SHTF stories that have ex-navy seal super green beret sniper ranger types as main characters. IMO it is becoming much too repetitive in these types of stories. I enjoy stories where ordinary people are put into extraordinary situations.

Here are some I didn't see mentioned:

Ashfall is a book that takes place after the Yellowstone Caldera lets loose and a 16 year old kid leaves home to try to find his family who were visiting his uncles house.

Ashen Winter is the sequel to Ashfall. Nice continuation story. I like this series because they character learn how to adapt as they encounter challenges.

A Distant Eden is about SHTF after a massive solar storm EMPs the world. Good story with the standard plot of people trying to survive post-apoc.

Adrian's War is the sequel to A Distant Eden. I am only halfway through it and am somewhat disappointed as it seems to be only about one of the main characters from ADE.

Eden's Hammer 3rd book in the ADE series. I haven't started reading this one yet.

There are some I can't recall right now and will add them in later.

I have read many zombie apocalypse type stories if you want to know about those I can list those also.
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I just finished the first volume in the Hunger Games series. I thought it was a little 'light'. A very easy read though.

Are these marketed to teen readers?

Haven't decided if I'll read the rest yet...
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You have to look at these books with some question about if the reading has any credibility of realism. What I like and seen the most probable scenario of a real life happening would be the Tim LaHaye and Jerry B. Jenkins books The left Behind series as a probable SHTF type of event .
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I just finished the first volume in the Hunger Games series. I thought it was a little 'light'. A very easy read though.

Are these marketed to teen readers?

Haven't decided if I'll read the rest yet...
My wife had them all and begged me to give them a try so I did. The first book is the worst by far, it only gets better with each book.
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Has anyone mentioned "The Stand" by Stephen King?? My favorite......not for the faint of heart or "light" reader, though, at 1100 pages.
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I have read many zombie apocalypse type stories if you want to know about those I can list those also.
I'm interested in a list of some of these as a zombie apocalypse is way more likely than most of the other reasons for apocalypse, you know, nukes, EMP, economic collapse, etc.

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Some Zombie Apocalypse books. These all essentially follow the "scavenge and survive" plot line:

Autumn - It has been a while since I read this one. The "zombies" in this start out as dead people that rise and congregate in "hibernating" groups, but change as the story goes on. There are a total of 6 books in this series.

The Rising, City of the Dead, Dead Sea by Brian Keene- The Rising is one of the early ZA books before the genre's popularity took off and is still one of the best. City of the Dead is the sequel to The Rising and reminded me of the Land of the Dead movie. Dead Sea takes place parallel to The Rising and with different characters.

Reign of the Dead, Reign of the Dead Apocalypse End by Len Barnhart- Another of the early zombie books. Story follows a guy who was vacationing in an isolated cabin when the ZA started. Haven't read the sequel yet.

The Undead Situation by Eloise J. Knapp- This one is unusual in that all of the characters are psychopaths. Imagine if everyone around during the ZA was like Shane from the Walking Dead. It was difficult to get into this book at times since I could care less about the characters or couldn't wait for them to get killed. It was still a decent read.

Mountain Man, Safari by Keith Blackmore- Story about a guy who happened upon a well stocked and isolated cabin in the mountains and made it home. His adventures take place when he goes into town scavenge for important things like booze. Safari is the sequel with the message that good things never last forever.

I will post more titles as I remember them.
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After a search of this thread I'm surprised that I've not found the following reading materials: Although they cannot be considered novels I'd certainly put them in the fiction section of any library.

1. The old Testament
2. The Talmud
3. The new Testament
Reference books are needed after SHTF:
4. The US Constitution
5. The Federalist Papers
6. The Magna Carta
7. The Communist Manifesto

Although there are many more I'm sure others will add to this list.
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I don't think anyone has mentioned Canticle for Leibowitz, by Walter Miller. Great book, really makes you think.


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Did anyone mention Holding Their Own by Joe Nobody? I really enjoyed it, and there's 2 others in the series, plus another one that I think doesn't tie into the first three.

And yes; if you have never read The Stand by Steven King then get to it; a book that anyone with our sort of mindset has to read once in their life.
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Best one I have read is the " dies the fire" as series by S.M. Sterling.
I'll third this.

If you are not interested in fantasy, the 'magic', unexplainable-to-physics main 'immediate problem' just doesn't make sense.

But, if you can treat it as a fall-back to about 1830s tech at best, I think the social aspects are pretty good. Stirling describes a good variety of ways groups of people organized after the collapse.
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I'll third this.

If you are not interested in fantasy, the 'magic', unexplainable-to-physics main 'immediate problem' just doesn't make sense.

But, if you can treat it as a fall-back to about 1830s tech at best, I think the social aspects are pretty good. Stirling describes a good variety of ways groups of people organized after the collapse.
Eeh, I read the first couple books in that series and then lost interest. The parallel series that follows the people on Nantucket island, who were transported into the past with all of their modern accoutrement was much better, and I read that whole branch of the story. I just couldn't get interested in the fantasy side of the dies the fire series. I was always much more into the Sci-Fi end of the Sci-Fi/Fantasy genre.

I've been reading Earth Abides in bits and pieces, here and there, but it hasn't really grabbed my attention yet.

I would say I've probably already read at least 60-80% of the books suggested in this thread thus far, and enjoyed most of them.
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Did anyone mention Holding Their Own by Joe Nobody? I really enjoyed it, and there's 2 others in the series, plus another one that I think doesn't tie into the first three.

And yes; if you have never read The Stand by Steven King then get to it; a book that anyone with our sort of mindset has to read once in their life.
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Of course it's Light's Out, by David Crawford! They're actually making a prepper movie out of it...A trilogy in fact!!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cdlZ-...ature=youtu.be
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I enjoyed Light's Out enough that I bought the book after it was published although I read the story when it was online. I didn't realize they were making a movie and they are trying to crowdsource the production. Looks like 5.11 and Noveske are helping with production of the movie. I hope they do a good job.
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Eeh, I read the first couple books in that series and then lost interest. The parallel series that follows the people on Nantucket island, who were transported into the past with all of their modern accoutrement was much better, and I read that whole branch of the story.
How about Eric Flint's 'Ring of Fire' series? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ring_of_Fire_series

Years ago, the rec.org.sca usenet group had a long discussion of what might happen should the Pennsic annual 'war' group be transported to Salisbury plain in England, circa 1100 if I recall correctly. I've long thought Flint had read that.
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How about Eric Flint's 'Ring of Fire' series? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ring_of_Fire_series

Years ago, the rec.org.sca usenet group had a long discussion of what might happen should the Pennsic annual 'war' group be transported to Salisbury plain in England, circa 1100 if I recall correctly. I've long thought Flint had read that.
Is that the Battle of Hastings? I don't know anything about the Pennsic group, but I do recall something about the Battle of Hastings being in 1066...
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How about Eric Flint's 'Ring of Fire' series? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ring_of_Fire_series

Years ago, the rec.org.sca usenet group had a long discussion of what might happen should the Pennsic annual 'war' group be transported to Salisbury plain in England, circa 1100 if I recall correctly. I've long thought Flint had read that.
I'll check that out, I hadn't heard of that series.
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